India-China 2020 Border conflict

[Mikesingh]

Karan Thapar an idiot fellow has taken an interview of separatist NSCN (I-M) Chief Th. Muivah on his youtube channel while our govt trying to play the Taiwan card against China. what an idiot fellow he is? I believe the 1st front has always been activated inside our country for 2.5 front war?

You surprised? This jackass is an elite member of the Lutyens liberal cabal. If we were Pak or China, this bugger would have got a bullet up his doggone arse!

 

[Mikesingh]

World War 3: How a Chinese invasion of Taiwan could trigger 'superpower war'

interesting read:

World War 3: How a Chinese invasion of Taiwan could trigger war

A NEW analysis has offered a chilling insight into what a Chinese invasion of Taiwan would look like - with one expert saying he was "increasingly concerned" about the risk of a major crisis which he warned could result in a "superpower war".

www.express.co.uk

Bullshit of the highest order! Typical armchair pseudo 'generals' and keyboard warriors who know fukall about war!

The Chinese will never invade Taiwan because it would be suicidal. As Sun Tzu said, 'the supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting'. It's all about the usual Chinese pressure tactics on Taiwan to relent. War is the last resort and only to defend their mainland. So real war with Taiwan is out of the question! Unless Xi has lost his marbles!

Let's see what this would involve.

There's the Taiwan Strait between them, which ranges from 220 km at its widest point to 130 km at its narrowest. China would need a massive force to be transported by a colossal fleet of ships and assault landing crafts which they do not possess.

Taiwan has a total strength of 1,800,000 military personnel including reserves, 290 fighter aircraft including 115 F-16s, (66 new F-16s in the pipeline), 95 attack choppers, 117 corvettes, destroyers, minesweepers and frigates as well as 4 subs.

China would need at least three times this force to even attempt an offensive on Taiwan, the beaches which are chockablock with anti ship weapon clusters. In addition to hundreds of sea skimming Harpoons, it also has dozens of the Yun Feng supersonic cruise missiles, which can travel as far as 2,000 kms and strike targets on the Chinese mainland, which needless to say, includes the financial hub of Shanghai - China's jugular. ( And the Chinese know it!)

Thus, it comes about that invasion of Taiwan would require the transportation of at least 30 to 40 divisions by sea plus all their supporting arms like arty, engineers, signals, missile regiments etc. They don't have the capability and wherewithal to launch their forces on such a massive scale. The PLAAF will not be very effective due to their restricted operational range. With the Taiwanese air force equipped with F-16s, Mirage 2000 etc, and scores of AD regiments equipped with the Antelope air defence systems and the Sky Bow series of Advanced Surface to Air Missile Systems, the PLAAF will be shot out of Taiwan skies before they can say jack!

The sheer magnitude of logistics over the Taiwan Strait to launch an offensive of this nature is mind boggling. The Chinese are nowhere near the combat ratio required for invading Taiwan from the sea. Period! The Chinese got a bloody nose in the Vietnam war fighting a much smaller army on land. They'll get their ass kicked if they attempt an invasion against Taiwan across the sea. And the Chinese would have surely factored in the might of the US Carrier Strike Groups in the SCS in support of Taiwan that they'll be up against!

So all this talk of an imminent invasion of Taiwan by China is pure science fiction.

QED.

 

[etantra]

China Passes Export Law To Protect National Security, Technology

China Export Law: The law, passed on Saturday, comes into effect on December 1 and allows Beijing to "take reciprocal measures" against countries that abuse export controls and pose a threat to national security.


Beijing:
China has passed a new law restricting sensitive exports to protect national security, a move that adds to policy tools it could wield against the US as tensions -- especially in technology -- continue to rise.

The law, which China's top legislature passed on Saturday, comes into effect on December 1 and allows Beijing to "take reciprocal measures" against countries that abuse export controls and pose a threat to national security.

Technical data related to items covered will also be subject to export controls, according to the published text of the law.

Beijing's latest measure gives it more room to hit back in US President Donald Trump's war on Chinese tech firms, with the White House moving against popular platforms and major companies -- including apps TikTok and WeChat, tech giant Huawei and chipmaker Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp.

The new law, "formulated to safeguard national security and interests", adds to China's regulatory toolkit which also involves a restriction catalogue of tech exports and an unreliable entity list.

"Where any country or region abuses export control measures to endanger the national security and interests of the People's Republic of China, (it) may take reciprocal measures," the law states.

It adds that Chinese authorities will formulate and adjust an export control list of items to be published in a "timely manner".

Foreign individuals and groups can also be found liable for violating export control rules.

The economic relationship between Beijing and Washington has been roiled by Trump's unprecedented campaign of tariffs, threats of bans and sanctions on Chinese tech firms.

With Trump facing a tough re-election campaign ahead of polls next month, US officials have described measures against China as national security safeguards -- prompting a backlash from Beijing.

In September, China launched a long-expected "unreliable entities list", widely seen as a weapon to retaliate against the US which has used its own "entity list" to shut Huawei out of the US market.

China Passes Export Law To Protect National Security, Technology

China has passed a new law restricting sensitive exports to protect national security, a move that adds to policy tools it could wield against the US as tensions -- especially in technology -- continue to rise.

www.ndtv.com

India and other countries should just about clone this same law verbatim..

Just copying their actions will go a long way in squaring up the ledger.

 

[etantra]

Bullshit of the highest order! Typical armchair pseudo 'generals' and keyboard warriors who know fukall about war!

The Chinese will never invade Taiwan because it would be suicidal. As Sun Tzu said, 'the supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting'. It's all about the usual Chinese pressure tactics on Taiwan to relent. War is the last resort and only to defend their mainland. So real war with Taiwan is out of the question! Unless Xi has lost his marbles!

Let's see what this would involve.

There's the Taiwan Strait between them, which ranges from 220 km at its widest point to 130 km at its narrowest. China would need a massive force to be transported by a colossal fleet of ships and assault landing crafts which they do not possess.

Taiwan has a total strength of 1,800,000 military personnel including reserves, 290 fighter aircraft including 115 F-16s, (66 new F-16s in the pipeline), 95 attack choppers, 117 corvettes, destroyers, minesweepers and frigates as well as 4 subs.

China would need at least three times this force to even attempt an offensive on Taiwan, the beaches which are chockablock with anti ship weapon clusters. In addition to hundreds of sea skimming Harpoons, it also has dozens of the Yun Feng supersonic cruise missiles, which can travel as far as 2,000 kms and strike targets on the Chinese mainland, which needless to say, includes the financial hub of Shanghai - China's jugular. ( And the Chinese know it!)

Thus, it comes about that invasion of Taiwan would require the transportation of at least 30 to 40 divisions by sea plus all their supporting arms like arty, engineers, signals, missile regiments etc. They don't have the capability and wherewithal to launch their forces on such a massive scale. The PLAAF will not be very effective due to their restricted operational range. With the Taiwanese air force equipped with F-16s, Mirage 2000 etc, and scores of AD regiments equipped with the Antelope air defence systems and the Sky Bow series of Advanced Surface to Air Missile Systems, the PLAAF will be shot out of Taiwan skies before they can say jack!

The sheer magnitude of logistics over the Taiwan Strait to launch an offensive of this nature is mind boggling. The Chinese are nowhere near the combat ratio required for invading Taiwan from the sea. Period! The Chinese got a bloody nose in the Vietnam war fighting a much smaller army on land. They'll get their ass kicked if they attempt an invasion against Taiwan across the sea. And the Chinese would have surely factored in the might of the US Carrier Strike Groups in the SCS in support of Taiwan that they'll be up against!

So all this talk of an imminent invasion of Taiwan by China is pure science fiction.

QED.

Agree to all except the last bit..

science fiction is people pretending that it is a easy peasy job for PLA to do.

people talk about it cause PLA seems to pretend like they are doing it and so it is natural to prepare for that eventuality. After all if someone said PLA could undertake their Galwan adventure in Jan 2020, we would have said that to be pure drivel.

 

[bajiraopeshwa]

All countries need to train their diplomats, soldiers and whoever else interacts with China to do a Galwan if necessary. Basically whoever directly interacts with the Chinese need a Khukri in their boots.

The Chinese understand only the language of Galwan and countries should talk only in that language whenever the Chinese get aggressive.

 

[shade]

World War 3: How a Chinese invasion of Taiwan could trigger 'superpower war'

interesting read:

World War 3: How a Chinese invasion of Taiwan could trigger war

A NEW analysis has offered a chilling insight into what a Chinese invasion of Taiwan would look like - with one expert saying he was "increasingly concerned" about the risk of a major crisis which he warned could result in a "superpower war".

www.express.co.uk

Tatti Brutish Tabloid, anything India does they put out shitty articles with WW3 in the title, ignore.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

World War 3: How a Chinese invasion of Taiwan could trigger 'superpower war'

interesting read:

World War 3: How a Chinese invasion of Taiwan could trigger war

A NEW analysis has offered a chilling insight into what a Chinese invasion of Taiwan would look like - with one expert saying he was "increasingly concerned" about the risk of a major crisis which he warned could result in a "superpower war".

www.express.co.uk

InVaSiOn???

 

[cereal killer]

Ex Pakistani Army officer exposes role of Pakistan in initiating 1947 Kashmir conflict

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Islamabad [Pakistan], October 18 (ANI): A retired Army officer in Pakistan has exposed his country's role in initiating the 1947 conflict in Kashmir and its aggressive intentions to invade and occupy the whole of Kashmir.

In his book 'Raiders in Kashmir', retired Major General Akbar Khan admits to played a leading role in creating the 1947 conflict in Kashmir, according to the EU Chronicle.

Akbar Khan served on the Armed Forces Partition Sub-Committee which gave him unfettered access to knowledge and intelligence on the security of Kashmir.

At the beginning of September 1947, Akbar Khan as the then Director of Weapons and Equipment (DW&E) stationed at the General Headquarters of the Pakistan Army, was asked to prepare a plan to take over Kashmir.

In his position as Director, he was fully aware of the stocks of weapons and ammunition held by the Pakistani army and those needed for an assault on Kashmir.

In order to execute the aggressive strategy he acquired weapons from Italy, and covertly supplied them to Pakistan's agents in Kashmir.

The aim of the Pakistani military operation was to invade, plunder and inflict violence on the people of Kashmir, to intimidate and oppress in order to occupy, depose Maharaja Hari Singh of Jammu and Kashmir and take control of the princely state.

In an operation was code-named 'Gulmarg', after the region's hill-station, and with the full understanding of Kashmir's resources and security capabilities, Pakistan's military, under the direction of its political leadership, formulated an offensive to attack the Maharaja's forces by surprise and invade Kashmir on October, 22 1947 - just two months after Partition.

The invasion was sparked because Pakistan had not expected the Maharaja of Kashmir, Hari Singh, to accede Kashmir to India.

Pakistan had attempted to threaten the Maharaja by pressurising him and insisting that Kashmir accede to Pakistan - the latter had made it clear that Kashmir would be annexed by force if necessary. True to its threats, following Maharaja Hari Singh's request to India for support and protection against its aggressive neighbour, Pakistan invaded Kashmir, EU Chronicle article stated.

Akbar Khan has testified to the fact that the regular Pakistan army, along with tribal forces it had influenced who was acting on behalf of Pakistan, began their incursions in Kashmir and continued the combat in an attempt to annex Kashmir.

The Pakistani forces were ruthless and barbaric - raping women, killing innocent Kashmiri civilians including children and creating anarchy to accomplish their objective. In the town of Baramula alone on October 26 1947, of 14000 Kashmiri Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs, only 3000 survived.

Pakistani forces indulged in the ethnic cleansing of local Kashmiris, something rarely highlighted in historical recounts of the events. (ANI)

I read one account somewhere... About Battle of Mirpur... It was battle between Paki forces + Pashuns against locals... It was one hell of a fight put up by locals there using everything they had... Sticks, stones everything they could find. Absolute no support from India had come by then.. They almost had pulled off the impossible. Regions like Gilgit, Chitral had totally joined invaders & general populace had already embraced Pakistan & invaders.
The 1947 Kashmir war is one untold story... Battle of Uri is basically as good as Battle of Thermoplaye.. Between Dogra troops & Invaders basically saved entire J&K... All this have been skipped from our history books like a agenda.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

 

[Knowitall]

Are twitter and it's cooperation with china is known to everyone one must not fret over it. These are minor issues to divert us from the actual issue and that is when are we planning to get back the territory we lost recently.

One can show whatever they want on the net it is the reality on ground that matters.

 

[shade]

Why is Twitter's Jack Dorsey wanted in India?

Indian MPs "summon" the Twitter CEO amid controversial claims of a left-wing bias on the network.

www.bbc.com

Dorsey doesn't want more summons I guess.

I hope zucc and dorsey do some un-ignorable gandmasti that the GoI is forced to apply the stick to them.
examples need to be made

 

[shade]

Are twitter and it's cooperation with china is known to everyone one must not fret over it. These are minor issues to divert us from the actual issue and that is when are we planning to get back the territory we lost recently.

Both are matters outside the control of the armchair generals here, and giving the Twits the danda is most low effort and low hanging fruit compared to retaking grabbed land, which will need a lot of planning, not just at the military level

 

[Knowitall]

Why is Twitter's Jack Dorsey wanted in India?

Indian MPs "summon" the Twitter CEO amid controversial claims of a left-wing bias on the network.

www.bbc.com

Dorsey doesn't want more summons I guess.

I hope zucc and dorsey do some un-ignorable gandmasti that the GoI is forced to apply the stick to them.
examples need to be made

Kuch nahi hoga these social media network have huge support and monopoly.

Twitter has been defaming hindus and promoting divide and anti India sentiments from such a long time. Kuch kiya?

Nothing will happen best we can hope for is a indian alternative.

 

[Cheran]

via Twitter

This clipping is from 2009. INC files FIR against reports for reporting on Chinese firing. For those who claim to remove CheChoo*ths in 15 mins.

 

[GunDeGunday]

Both are matters outside the control of the armchair generals here, and giving the Twits the danda is most low effort and low hanging fruit compared to retaking grabbed land, which will need a lot of planning, not just at the military level

Well almost ALL matters we discuss here are outside of our hands

What is in our hands realistically is to have our own online "army" of Indians like you or me on social media platforms armed with facts/knowledge/counter-propaganda to counter the Paki and Chinese information warfare because we're getting beaten badly in the information warfare front. Our primary strength - population needs to be used there.

 

[shade]

Kuch nahi hoga these social media network have huge support and monopoly.

Twitter has been defaming hindus and promoting divide and anti India sentiments from such a long time. Kuch kiya?

Nothing will happen best we can hope for is a indian alternative.

Only in bold matters, GoI fears retaliation from the Americunts on muh preshus IT coolie companies if we do too much BDSM with Twatter, Zuccbook et al.

 

[shade]

via Twitter
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This clipping is from 2009. INC files FIR against reports for reporting on Chinese firing. For those who claim to remove CheChoo*ths in 15 mins.

This is exactly what is meant by 15 mins, in 15 mins you would have a media blackout over reporting on this ""sensitive"" issue upsetting the MoU equilibrium , and "experts" would be deployed to spin ching chong land grabs as an RSS conspiracy theory

 

[cereal killer]

Farroqa teri file khul gyi

 

[shade]

Farroqa teri file khul gyi

It's back to Bigg Boss ka ghar for Farooqa, but this time it will have iron bars.

 

[Cheran]

Isko Gol Gappa khilao, just like that Charlie Peng guy & Chinese girl. They need to sing.

viaANI
Chinese soldier apprehended by security forces in Chumar-Demchok area of Ladakh. He might have entered Indian territory inadvertently. He will be returned to Chinese Army as per established protocol after following due procedure: Sources

Why the frack are we so quick to inform that he will be returned?

"He might have entered Indian territory inadvertently. "

MEA Babu - Difference in perception of LAC
Reality - LAC is where the Chinese set foot