India-China 2020 Border conflict

[Mikesingh]

ITBP base is near F3, it's no where near F4!

No! It's at the base of Finger 4. Chinese positions are on the Finger 4 ridgeline, with observation posts and tents clearly visible at the site. Some of these new Chinese ridgeline positions are less than a kilometer from Indian positions which have also emerged west of the ridgeline near its base. Finger 3 is way farther to the West of this ITBP position..

 

[Vishalreddy3]

No! It's at the base of Finger 4. Chinese positions are on the Finger 4 ridgeline, with observation posts and tents clearly visible at the site. Some of these new Chinese ridgeline positions are less than a kilometer from Indian positions which have also emerged west of the ridgeline near its base. Finger 3 is way farther to the West of this ITBP position..

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Not this argument again!!
The blue circled area is F4, with base on the left side (west) and Chinese positions is on the ridgelines marked by pin positions.
ITBP base is in the red circled area, not in base of F4

 

[mokoman]

Not this argument again!!
The blue circled area is F4, with base on the left side (west) and Chinese positions is on the ridgelines marked by pin positions.
ITBP base is in the red circled area, not in base of F4
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As i understand it , the "fingers" are not the small part that extends out into the lake but the whole "mountain" like feature that extends from a common point

see pic below .

Spoiler

 

[Shashank Nayak]

As i understand it , the "fingers" are not the small part that extends out into the lake but the whole "mountain" like feature that extends from a common point

see pic below .

Spoiler

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Fingers are wrong here.. all fingers end before sirijap.. as per official map leaked on TOI.. a month or two ago...

 

[bajiraopeshwa]

The Ladakh Clash: China’s India Dilemma

Border clashes are not rare, but the Ladakh episode reveals a fundamental dilemma for China: a desire for friendly ties with india but a genuine hostility due to conflicting foreign-policy agendas.

www.globalasia.org

China admits it was wrong?

For the Chinese, everything is tactical and here and now. The article says China wants to avoid two-front war. How is that possible when China itself supports Pakistan to create a two front threat for India ?

The best case scenario for China would have been a neutral India. For that it should have settled the border dispute and stopped arming Pakistan. It did not do both. So as the Indian economy grows and India increases its military budgets, the risk of two front war keeps increasing for China. Not a good situation.

Seen other way, India's two front threat situation was a temporary phase and is all but over. China's two front threat has just started and the threat level will keep increasing.

 

[mokoman]

Fingers are wrong here.. all fingers end before sirijap.. as per official map leaked on TOI.. a month or two ago...

Your right !! , most markings on web are wrong.

This looks right .

I think Gen Panag also posted a wrong version

Anyway heights we occupied visible from sat images is near the yellow numbered 4 on wrong map above

dunno what the area is called .

 

[cereal killer]

As an public domain article put out by retired Lt. General Panag in the Print, that Indian military position on the North LAC close to DBO post, Despang etc. Is quite hopeless. India road connecting DBO to Leh runs precariously close to LAC including Chinese proposal of 1959 proposal line. It’s hopelessness is high lighted as the road at Galwan and other places is only 5 to 7 Km away. A determined Chinese effort along the Rikki Nallaha (hard to pinpoint on the map where this Nallaha is), Chinese can cut off the new road. That means Indian position there is precarious here.

China has taken LAC clock back to 1959. India not in a position to take back Aksai Chin

PM Narendra Modi has both popularity and political skill. Will he bite the bullet and convince Indians about unpalatable strategic decisions?

theprint.in

The general states that only comfortable position the Indian Army is in the Chusul sector on Kailash range, where India has occupied all the heights.

If the Chinese try to exploit the northern sector to cut off the DBO, then it should be an Indian retaliatory move to extend further and capture more heights in Chinese disputed area and get as close or cut off their supply line in the southern sector.

It is a theory whether Chinese can invade to cut off DBO or India move to capture as much as possible of Kailash range to cut off their supply line, if it is possible or not. That is a good issue to talk about.

Panag has connections with AAP through his daughter... But his experience in the area in undeniable. I read somewhere he was the first general to take tanks in SSN.
He's right on the aspect of threat of DBO which is extremely vulnerable. However China occupying DBO or destroying the air field will be like crossing a red line. A full fledged conventional war will happen instantly.
Those heights along Kailash range is our offence strategy against Chinese. Cutting Chinese supply lines through G219 or even G318 can be tricky.
Overall It will bound to come at how well Planned our actions can be... We have to use Air power & missile warfare as well.

 

[Cheran]

 

[Sehwag213]

Slightly OT

Raul Vinci posted a CRPF vehicle yesterday. Can some experts find out the year of that video ?
@mokoman @mist_consecutive

 

[Sehwag213]

India is the only country which she named personally. Kab khun khaulega re tera Narendra

 

[tarunraju]

India test-fires 10 missiles in 35 days. It is not a coincidence

The DRDO’s effort to fast-track development of ‘Made in India’ strategic nuclear and conventional missiles comes against the backdrop of China’s refusal to step back from the LAC.

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[Sehwag213]

I think this news might belong to this thread. How many of you knew this fact about Biden ? He had no objection Russia selling technology to China

 

[johnq]

WE are only emphasizing before the Chinese civil war!! Before CCP, it was the ROC government who were ruling China and the entire GB were considered part of Southern Xinjiang province, hence the claim

What you are saying is part of the CCP propaganda spread by Chinese Communist Party and repeated by Chinese drones to ensure that India and Taiwan don't get closer. Communist Chinese have rewritten history with regard to areas of Tibet, Xinjiang and their surrounding Indian areas (their claims of Indian territory being Chinese).
The Taiwanese aren't going to be taking over mainland China, so discussion of claims over Tibet or Xinjiang are pointless; they are engineered as part of Chinese propaganda and psy ops. This is part of Chinese Communist Party mind games, their psy ops to ensure India and Taiwan don't get closer. Taiwanese just want to be independent and want to be left alone. It would be in India's interest to form a secret alliance with Taiwan.

 

[utubekhiladi]

I think this news might belong to this thread. How many of you knew this fact about Biden ? He had no objection Russia selling technology to China

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thanks for providing me with one more reason on why I should not vote to that moron biden.

 

[johnq]

While we are talking about China, Yesterday was North Korea 75th anniversary of their communist party!! China was helping them with funds and technology and look what NK has created, the biggest ICBM by far, far bigger than Russian SATAN

Meanwhile the North Korean people are starving while they have been brainwashed into worshipping their leader.
Also, big, super powerful weapons displays are a part of North Korean propaganda to keep their people impressed and under control. Just as China keeps North Korea under its control while the North Korean people remain poor and brainwashed drones.

 

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

By the way I like your meme cat profile and the reference.

 

[cereal killer]

Meanwhile the North Korean people are starving while they have been brainwashed into worshipping their leader.
Also, big, super powerful weapons displays are a part of North Korean propaganda to keep their people impressed and under control. Just as China keeps North Korea under its control while the North Korean people remain poor and brainwashed drones.

This may be another low quality poor man's ICBM. North Korea's missile capability is extremely overhyped.

 

[Mikesingh]

thanks for providing me with one more reason on why I should not vote to that moron biden.

Bimbo Biden is bad news for India - very bad - if ever elected as POTUS. He has this habit of bashing India on Kashmir at the drop of a hat and is a friend of Pak, and China to a large extent! The QUAD will probably collapse too! And needless to say he'll prefer to withdraw the US CBGs from the SCS so as not to ruffle CCP feathers.

 

[shade]

Bimbo Biden is bad news for India - very bad - if ever elected as POTUS. He has this habit of bashing India on Kashmir at the drop of a hat and is a friend of Pak, and China to a large extent too!

Both Biden and Cumala are sock puppets for Business lobby, Democrat party has two factions, one are the money and business minded corporate types and the other are the hard lefty globalists.
The strategem used is doing left liberal jhumlas as an indirect way to threaten India, using which they extract concessions for their companies or for their NGOs. Also this Globalist-Business lobby is very pro-China for $$$$ reasons

Trump is much better, bashes China 24x7 and his demands towards us are mainly trade related only, very simple issues, not 4D chess that democrats + globalists would play against us

 

[utubekhiladi]

Bimbo Biden is bad news for India - very bad - if ever elected as POTUS. He has this habit of bashing India on Kashmir at the drop of a hat and is a friend of Pak, and China to a large extent too!

true, not to mention that hoe called kamala harris..

gigolo biden has invested in lot of chinese companies. a simple google search reveals lots of things about this gigolo. him and his son hunter biden is in bed with lot of Chinese companies

let the result speak for itself. take a look