India-China 2020 Border conflict

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Army Commander visits formations in western sector
Lieutenant General AS Bhinder, General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Sapta Shakti Command, visited Ranbankura Division and Sudarshan Chakra Division in the western sector to assess the security situation in the area.


He was accompanied by Lieutenant General MK Mago, General Officer Commanding, Chetak Corps, during the three-day visit that concluded today.


General Bhinder reviewed the levels of operational preparedness of both the divisions within the framework of COVID-19 restrictions. He also carried out aerial recce of the border areas.

 

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Can you imagine an indian newspaper has published this

China refuses to leave Hot Springs, Gogra: ‘India should be happy with what has been achieved’

 

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Can you imagine an indian newspaper has published this

China refuses to leave Hot Springs, Gogra: ‘India should be happy with what has been achieved’

what do you mean ? , if you mean the quote its from chinese , not from newspaper.


A highly placed source, involved in decision-making all of 2020, told The Sunday Express that at Patrolling Point 15 and PP-17A in Hot Springs and Gogra Post, the Chinese “had agreed earlier” to pull back troops but “later refused to vacate”. In the recent talks, according to the source, China said India “should be happy with what has been achieved”.

LMAO , we cant be this stupid.

At PP15 and PP17A, “For movement there, you don’t require paved roads, you can move on gravel tracks. There, the reaction capability is faster,” the source said, adding that “they are much inside the Indian side”.


IMHO this is payback for doklam , they will never leave .:scared2:
 

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Explained: Where are Hot Springs and Gogra Post? What are their strategic significance?




What are PP15 and 17A?



Along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) between India in China, Indian Army has been given certain locations that its troops have to access to patrol the area under its control. These points are known as patrolling points, or PPs, and are decided by the China Study Group (CSG).


CSG was set-up in 1976, when Indira Gandhi was the prime minister, and is the apex decision-making body on China.


Barring certain areas, like Depsang Plains, these patrolling points are on the LAC, and troops access these points to assert their control over the territory. It is an important exercise since the boundary between India and China is not yet officially demarcated.


PP15 and PP17A are two of the 65 patrolling points in Ladakh along the LAC. (Some of these 65 also have an additional Alpha PPs, which are further ahead from the original PPs. So PP17A is different from, but close to, PP17.)

 

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Before troops took Kailash heights, Army looked East to relieve Ladakh pressure

Before Indian troops occupied strategic heights in the Kailash range in eastern Ladakh in August last year to turn the tables on the Chinese, one of the options considered by the Army brass was a build-up, and a counter-thrust if need be, in the Eastern Sector to “relieve pressure in the area of Ladakh”.


The Kailash range operation, which put the Chinese at a disadvantage for the first time since the start of the standoff along the Line of Actual Control in May last year, led to the disengagement of troops and armoured columns on the north and south banks of Pangong Tso and the Kailash range this February.


This, the source said, perturbed the Chinese. “In one of the rounds of talks, the commander who was representing them, he was very concerned, (said) that you have passed these orders… He mentioned that you have passed orders to your ground troops to fire.”
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General Zhao Zongqi, PLA’s Western Theatre Commander at that time, had “started something which did not pan out the way they had visualised or planned” and “there was no possible or favourable exit strategy” for him, the source said.


chinese pussies was counting on the "No Weapons/Firing " part,
 
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Before troops took Kailash heights, Army looked East to relieve Ladakh pressure

Before Indian troops occupied strategic heights in the Kailash range in eastern Ladakh in August last year to turn the tables on the Chinese, one of the options considered by the Army brass was a build-up, and a counter-thrust if need be, in the Eastern Sector to “relieve pressure in the area of Ladakh”.


The Kailash range operation, which put the Chinese at a disadvantage for the first time since the start of the standoff along the Line of Actual Control in May last year, led to the disengagement of troops and armoured columns on the north and south banks of Pangong Tso and the Kailash range this February.


This, the source said, perturbed the Chinese. “In one of the rounds of talks, the commander who was representing them, he was very concerned, (said) that you have passed these orders… He mentioned that you have passed orders to your ground troops to fire.”
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General Zhao Zongqi, PLA’s Western Theatre Commander at that time, had “started something which did not pan out the way they had visualised or planned” and “there was no possible or favourable exit strategy” for him, the source said.


chinese pussies was counting on the "No Weapons/Firing " part,
Hmm isn't that option still open in the eastern sector?
 

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Explained: Where are Hot Springs and Gogra Post? What are their strategic significance?




What are PP15 and 17A?



Along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) between India in China, Indian Army has been given certain locations that its troops have to access to patrol the area under its control. These points are known as patrolling points, or PPs, and are decided by the China Study Group (CSG).


CSG was set-up in 1976, when Indira Gandhi was the prime minister, and is the apex decision-making body on China.


Barring certain areas, like Depsang Plains, these patrolling points are on the LAC, and troops access these points to assert their control over the territory. It is an important exercise since the boundary between India and China is not yet officially demarcated.


PP15 and PP17A are two of the 65 patrolling points in Ladakh along the LAC. (Some of these 65 also have an additional Alpha PPs, which are further ahead from the original PPs. So PP17A is different from, but close to, PP17.)

The official history notes that the Chinese had “succeeded in eliminating possible launch pads for any offensive against the Aksai Chin highway by eliminating DBO, Chushul and Demchok positions. It said that it “all the more strengthens the contention that Indians should have attempted to retain at least one jump off point: Chushul”.

Can someone give more detail about this?
 

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The official history notes that the Chinese had “succeeded in eliminating possible launch pads for any offensive against the Aksai Chin highway by eliminating DBO, Chushul and Demchok positions. It said that it “all the more strengthens the contention that Indians should have attempted to retain at least one jump off point: Chushul”.

Can someone give more detail about this?
But, we still have positions in DBO, Chushul and Demchok.. India was pushed back from these positions in 1962 war... but, looks like we now have setup posts again..
 

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