IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

[angeldude13]

America's endorsment is more than enough. if Americans were lying, maybe you explain why would they do that to india, are you good buddies?

Done with your daily earning of 50 cent?

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/not-aware-pentagon-on-pak-f-16-count-after-feb-aerial-dogfight-with-iaf/story-Rw4gSknuuSBnMc2EyYe62H.html

It's IAF we are talking about and not the propaganda army of supreme leader winnie the pooh.

 

[itsme]

it's America, the country toward which you have sworn your allegiance, that is slaping india's face by claiming all f16s are counted for. maybe you should consider switching your allegiance back to your motherland.

Are you mad or pretending to be one? American govt never claimed that they have even said they are not aware that the count took place. Only an american magazine published an planted story with an unnamed source.

 

[Spindrift]

it's America, the country toward which you have sworn your allegiance, that is slaping india's face by claiming all f16s are counted for. maybe you should consider switching your allegiance back to your motherland.

An American journalist claimed that citing unnamed Pentagon source. No American official has stated that through an official channel.
Also, if you think, if an audit was done in reality and had found nothing amiss Ghafoor would be singing like a canary about it.

And our allegiance to our Constitution and motherland have never faltered and will not falter.

Maybe, you should consider switching your allegiance back to your motherland instead of Xi Jinping and the CCP.

 

[itsme]

America's endorsment is more than enough. if Americans were lying, maybe you explain why would they do that to india, are you good buddies?

Also, why cant PAF release radar imagery of that F16 which appearing back on the radar and returning home? Why would a MIG21 simply cross the LOC if he was not going for the kill? Multiple reports and even Pak official report of 3 pilots. Only 1 was Indian who were the other two? Its a shame for Lockeed or PAF to confirm they lost a F16 to Mig 21.

 

[Enquirer]

it's America, the country toward which you have sworn your allegiance, that is slaping india's face by claiming all f16s are counted for. maybe you should consider switching your allegiance back to your motherland.

No US government official has claimed any such thing! A junior journalist in bed with lobbyists that's trying to push arms sales to India quoted 'unnamed' sources! Eh!
Contrast that with 'Pentagon spokesman' who claimed that no such count of F16s have been done!

Also, it's stupid to think that Pakis will allow such a count when their jets are forward deployed. Further if Pakis ever 'invited' US to count, they would've clamored about the invite itself (just in case US publicly doesn't acknowledge the right count)...and further would've made noise after the count. Unlike now when they're hiding behind the skirt of Lara Seligman!

Growing up in communist country you obviously don't know to evaluate truth and facts. Just like Pakis, you're bred to imbue propaganda!

Come back to the forum when you've pled allegiance to any 'motherland'. All you've done in your life is plead allegiance to the communist party! (I think you may not even know the difference........what a pity you are!!!)

 

[Indx TechStyle]

it's America, the country toward which you have sworn your allegiance,

We never sworn their allegiance. We thrown their quad group and pivot to Asia down the drain.

that is slaping india's face by claiming all f16s are counted for.

They never said so either.

maybe you should consider switching your allegiance back to your motherland.

Our allegiance was always for our motherland. For protecting 1/6th of humanity, we have to play game and balance between great powers till we become one.
We never adhered to support or oppose anyone. We only support our interests and will become more uncompromising as our nation goes up.

 

[White Wolf]

it's America, the country toward which you have sworn your allegiance, that is slaping india's face by claiming all f16s are counted for. maybe you should consider switching your allegiance back to your motherland.

America didn't say anything regarding counting of F-16's. Pentagon declined that there was some official counting of F-16's.
It's time you update your general knowledge.

 

[Neptune]

so, who has been lying about this mysterious shooting down of f16? some of them didn't tell the truth. Indian authority needs to provide evidence more convincing than radar screen snapshot.

And Pakistan needs to provide some more authoritative evidence of SU-30 Shootdown other then propaganda photo shoots of its pilots posing with SU-30 kill patches.


Pakistani proof or presented evidence of shoot down--cloth patches:

Indian proof or presented evidence of shoot down:

Admittedly the Indian side has shown weak evidence, but then again most western countries and Pakistan has presented zero evidence of most of their past shoot-downs. I still find it comical that no one in the media have questioned the Pakistani claim which has become more comical by the day. In other words the west and people that operate western aircraft have a different set of standards for themselves and everyone else.

Let's look at the Pakistani claims. First they claimed they shot down 3 pilots, then 2, then 1. Then Pakistan claimed one died in the hospital. Knowing Pakistani they would parade any second Indian pilot just how they paraded the Mig-21 wreckage, the bloodied Indian pilot, the Indian pilots personal belongings, the R-77 and R-73 remains and the propaganda photo shoots and videos of Pakistani pilots posing with kill patches and being awarded for shooting down none existent SU-30s.

Then Pakistan claimed they didn't use F-16 in the entire operation, then they awarded kills to F-16 pilots and then inadvertently admitted to using F-16 by saying their entire Air Force was up in the air. Then India presented evidence of AMMRAM wreckage and Pakistani denied it claiming it belong to Taiwan, which Taiwan rebuked. Then Pakistan claimed Lockheed was suing India which Lockheed denied, then Pakistani generals cited an unanimous report that claimed all Pakistani F-16s were inspected and accounted for which appearently was denied by the US government.

There was also the incident were Pakistani aircraft flew into India and dropped their bombs in empty fields. Pakistan claimed it was planned like that, but logically who would risk all out war and the risk of getting its aircraft shot down and pilots killed or captured only to show off? Pakistan claimed it did not want to harm kill or harm anyone and that it was just a message to India yet Pakistani aircraft started wildly firing AMMRAMs at Indians and shelling the LOC. No one questions this madness from Pakistan and only focuses on India. It's very convenient.

 

[Srinivas_K]

America's endorsment is more than enough. if Americans were lying, maybe you explain why would they do that to india, are you good buddies?

US officially said they have not counted the F16's in Pakistan.

 

[Joker]

America's endorsment is more than enough. if Americans were lying, maybe you explain why would they do that to india, are you good buddies?

First the Chinese should tell why they haven't included junk fighter in their arsenal and are letting paki pigs get fried in the flying ovens?
Why is China not confident about jf17
Why is the general who led the doklam standoff in Mongolian labor camps???

 

[Joker]

I know why that su 30 shot down thing came up. It was because pakis being pakis, assumed that since a two seater plane was killed off, it had to be a su30. They for got that pakipigs fly two seater f-16,
What a joke pakis are to their masters in china.lolbtw, I heard that pooh is not happy that paki piglet won't be repaying cpec loans and have threatened to pullout

 

[bose]

so, who has been lying about this mysterious shooting down of f16? some of them didn't tell the truth. Indian authority needs to provide evidence more convincing than radar screen snapshot.

The radar signature is enough of evidence to prove F-16 was shot down ...

 

[bose]

it's America, the country toward which you have sworn your allegiance, that is slaping india's face by claiming all f16s are counted for. maybe you should consider switching your allegiance back to your motherland.

There was no such counting done ... Pentagon is not aware of it ... stop peddling fake news !!

 

[bose]

First the Chinese should tell why they haven't included junk fighter in their arsenal and are letting paki pigs get fried in the flying ovens?
Why is China not confident about jf17
Why is the general who led the doklam standoff in Mongolian labor camps???

Chinese are not taught to tell truth !!

 

[maomao]

You know I love Chinese people and I also know Commies are masters of deception and lies. Hence, they will do anything to protect their dollars invested in pakistan! They are in a fix!:biggrin2:

 

[Absolut_Vodka]

Mig-21 is actually an excellent dogfighter. It's a beast in close quarter combat. Basically, a cockpit strapped on a rocket, it has ridiculous acceleration and considered very nimble.
Talk to any IAF fighter pilot, and ask him, what is his favorite fighter to fly. You will be surprised by the answer.

Yes, i always think of Mig21 as Brahmos fitted with wings and cockpit.

Mig 21 is favorite machine of IAF pilots. Abhi was master on it.

In fact, he knew the said plane so much that he gave a hard to time to his instructors and Tyagi [probably, a reference to Shashindra Pal Tyagi who served as Chief of Air Staff of the Indian Air Force from 31 December 2004 to 31 March 2007].

 

[sayareakd]

Now i am certain this is F16 video, plane is falling down.

 

[sayareakd]

here is the video again.


Lets identify this crash area.

 

[indiatester]

here is the video again.


Lets identify this crash area.

As per the IAF, this is in Sabz Kot area.

 

[Arsalan123]

As per the IAF, this is in Sabz Kot area.

i have seen so many videos related to this incident.in one video,damage on a nearby house is visible and i feel that it was the crash of second jet because the wreckage of first jet was somewhere else.second jet crashed near a house.