IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

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The same problem has emerged against China

We have admitted to over 20 Indian soldiers dead
We know China has taken our territory
Everyone knows we haven't declared war or taken it back because we simply don't have the ability
Or if we do have the ability we don't think we can win against China and don't want to risk defeat against a powerful for with Pakistan waiting in the wings
We have admitted to over 20 Indian soldiers dead
Ok, so? We aren't like the bat-munchers who have yet to declare their casualties at Galwan because of the acute embarrassment it will cause to the CPC.

We know China has taken our territory
Really? Where? Specify or bust. Are you talking of North Pangong Tso? Understand that the area between Finger 4 and Finger 8 is 'no man's land' which was patrolled by both sides for ages. China claims up to Finger 4 while we claim up to Finger 8. This area is claimed by both sides as there is no demarcated boundary here. So which territory belonging to India have the Chinese taken? The only issue is that they need to withdraw to our claim line at Finger 8 and restore the no man's land as before. But needless to say Nehru gifted 44,000 sq km of Aksai Chin to the Chinese in the late 50s on a silver platter, saying that it's ok as not even a blade of grass grows there.

Everyone knows we haven't declared war or taken it back because we simply don't have the ability
Or if we do have the ability we don't think we can win against China and don't want to risk defeat against a powerful for with Pakistan waiting in the wings
What are you ranting about? Are you even aware of the present state of the PLA? 80% are conscripts forced to serve for 4 years and who are from single-child families, spoilt kids more interested in video games and the Starbucks lifestyle than fighting in mountains 17,000 ft high in minus 40 degree Celsius temperatures! They'll be up against the Indian Army - a battle-hardened army highly trained and experienced in mountain/high altitude warfare and who are highly motivated.

Still, caught in the time warp of 1962? It's not the army of 1962 where troops were untrained in mountain warfare and ill-clothed and ill-equipped. Those Chinese then were hardened peasant folk used to the rigours of a tough life, not like the pussies of today's PLA. Plus the IA was up against a force ten times the number, 18,000 to 180,000! Still, we kicked their butts in most places. The tragedy of 1962 was that Nehru refused to use the air force which was a blunder of monumental proportions. The air force would have massacred the Chinese by the hordes.

And Pak you say is waiting in the wings to attack? Really? Lol! You gotta be kidding right? They know a war with India will be a total disaster for them seeing where their economy is headed and an army more interested in business activities - from running malls, barbershops, cinema houses, bakeries, real estate, to controlling the transport and logistics in Pakistan. Last year the Fauji Foundation, the head of all these business activities was worth a whopping $14 billion!! So would they embark on a war where they would lose their financial empire built over the decades on the miseries of the ordinary Pakistanis? Not a chance! And the combat ratio between us and them will never allow them to embark on a war which will be suicidal for them.

Get real. A lot of water has flowed under the bridge.

P.S. Read this book which will open your eyes to what the Paki Army is all about!

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COAS Bajwa saab entered the meeting, his legs were shaking & his forehead sweating. @SMQureshiPTI told that, “For God’s sake, let #Abhinandan go. At 9pm India is going to attack Pakistan.”

- Ayaz Sadiq exposes Pakistan Army in Assembly.
 

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secondly in bvr combat along with range tactics also mattets, PAF hit su30 with amraam in 40km range but r77 despite range of 80km+ couldn't perform
Hey There filthy Pork

AMRAAM failed decisively against Su 30 while a R-73 took down F-16 despite having less range .

The reason was Porks literally runaway the moment they saw Mirage 2k and Sukhoi in the air.

To escape from Sukhoi they fired AMRAAM at it's almost max range and failed.

If they had fired from 40 km distance then Mutilated Brain dead Zombie Su would have fired not R-77 only but it's IR missiles too. Since No missile was fired by Sukhois itself expose your Chutzpah.

Now Go and drink Camel mutra and do zam zam.... in a madrassa
 

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counter it with facts one by one, start with the serial no. of missile and intact fuel tanks of mig21, so what is your response how can PAF produce both r73 in unfired state with exact iaf serial number? his second point is alsoa genuine why fuel tanks were with jet if it took the first step in engagemen
Listen Filthy Pork You are swine of a mutilated Kaum who believe in Flying donkeys. 😂😂😂😂 So better you don't talk about facts.

The other moron is also a filthy mulla who knows nothing but random shit which is already countered and exposed million times.

R 73 isn't presented intact but was fired and took down the F-16 which America gave you as alms. There is nothing more or less to it.
 

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Hey There filthy Pork

AMRAAM failed decisively against Su 30 while a R-73 took down F-16 despite having less range .

The reason was Porks literally runaway the moment they saw Mirage 2k and Sukhoi in the air.

To escape from Sukhoi they fired AMRAAM at it's almost max range and failed.

If they had fired from 40 km distance then Mutilated Brain dead Zombie Su would have fired not R-77 only but it's IR missiles too. Since No missile was fired by Sukhois itself expose your Chutzpah.

Now Go and drink Camel mutra and do zam zam.... in a madrassa
You should've stopped at the first sentence.....
You've only managed to waste finger calories
Let him live in his dream world
 

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Mid body of one R-73 is blown and AFAIK R-73 has seeker in mid-body and not its nose cone.
Sir with due respect in order to fire missile you need to get it off from pylon, and here on can clearly see its tail section still with jet so obviously it wasn't fired because no one can fire half missile

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Sir with due respect in order to fire missile you need to get it off from pylon, and here on can clearly see its tail section still with jet so obviously it wasn't fired because no one can fire half missile

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Mig 21 on the job carries 4 missies 2 R-73 and 2-77 kinda combination. The photos of 4 missiles that were displayed earlier clearly indicates that it ate something as the warhead is not inside the cone but in the mid body.
 

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Sir with due respect in order to fire missile you need to get it off from pylon, and here on can clearly see its tail section still with jet so obviously it wasn't fired because no one can fire half missile

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Mig 21 on the job carries 4 missies 2 R-73 and 2-77 kinda combination. The photos of 4 missiles that were displayed earlier clearly indicates that it ate something as the warhead is not inside the cone but in the mid body.

Rest of the body of the R-73 on pylon didn't vanish, it's placed with R-73 that was fired. Otherwise mid-body would be available for both, still attached to pylon.

Smart move 👌 but they overlooked to do it from the start... Here we saw both, I (not fired) & IV (fired) in their original display.
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ANYWAYS THIS CRAP HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE & THIS NOT THE THREAD. PISS OFF OR PM THEM.

@Indx TechStyle @Hariharan_kalarikkal @Flying Dagger can you guys stop, you couldn't point out the fallacy in Pork's argument anyway?..
 
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Rest of the body of the R-73 on pylon didn't vanish, it's placed with R-73 that was fired. Otherwise mid-body would be available for both, still attached to pylon.

Smart move 👌 but they overlooked to do it from the start... Here we saw both, I (not fired) & IV (fired) in their original display. View attachment 75403


ANYWAYS THIS CRAP HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE & THIS NOT THE THREAD. PISS OFF OR PM THEM.

@Indx TechStyle @Hariharan_kalarikkal @Flying Dagger can you guys stop, you couldn't point out the fallacy in Pork's argument anyway?..
Sir we can't fit missile on burnt pylon within few minutes of crash on our own, here you can see tail and seeker section of both R73. It has been explained in detail in this video by international experts

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its a crap, kotli is 35km+ from abhinandhan site out of R73 range
Bournvita quiz question for you...

what's the range of R73 and how much time it will take for a F 16 to cover that 35 kms once it's hit by it when flying at full throttle with a Mach 2 Speed.....assuming it was at full throttle since it was running away from MIG .

you win 1 KG chocolate bournvita pack
 
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Bournvita quiz question for you...

what's the range of R73 and how much time it will take for a F 16 to cover that 35 kms once it's hit by it when flying at full throttle.....assuming it was at full throttle since it was running away from MIG .

you win 1 KG chocolate bournvita pack
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Bournvita quiz question for you...

what's the range of R73 and how much time it will take for a F 16 to cover that 35 kms once it's hit by it when flying at full throttle.....assuming it was at full throttle since it was running away from MIG .

you win 1 KG chocolate bournvita pack
Like the f16 he also ran
 

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