They are having fun with all the media hype and fakery. They want India to admit that the MKI was shot down. Wait, did this reported that?
IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16
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First they said they have 2 pilots, then proved false.
Second, they claimed no f-16 used, but aim 120 c proved that to be false.
Third, their foreign minister claimed that Masood Azhar is in the country but very ill, but gafoora says that there is no such thing as JeM.
It’s a nation of jokers making up lies to show false truths to their IQ-deficient awaam
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PAF is probably the most incompetent airforce on planet lost a fcking F 16 to vintage mig 21 LMAO!:bounce:
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Leave India media asside for a moment!
Why ispr and isi lying and contradicting again and again? Gaffoor is coming out to be joker who has been caught lying from day one!
Please ask your surendering paki fauj to come out clean this time and accept and acknowledge your dead! Please remember that refusal of dead will haunt you a long time like it did after pakistan's defeat in 1999 and loss of territory in 1971!
Btw stop posting videos no one gives a shyt to paki propoganda!
High time you pakis stop lying and acknowledge your dead pilots of PAF F16 who were shot down by MIG21 !
Footages made by residents are credible, not propaganda. You folks believe in propaganda all day, you should know the difference.
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Sorry to say your own awaam claimed 3 pilots, ispr gafoor came on TV said that, your Nobel Prize Winner PM Imran Khan said that! Where are the other 2 pilots? Your paki residents claimed they beat up 2nd F16 pilot to pulp that he had to be taken to the paki hospital! What happned to him? What happened to the 3rd F16 pilot who was shot down by vintage Mig21?
Is ispr, isi, Nobel laureate Imran Khan, paki awaam all liars? If you say so, then I agree all are liars !!
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Sir give me one answer with due respect....
Whats about the....amraam wreckage.....
.....first paf says its not theirs....and its Taiwan s......
Now taiwan saying.....its not theirs.....
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/ind...d-in-wednesday-air-engagements-taiwan-refute/
If india has informed usa about f16 use then it would have given sufficient....info too
Wait for that... . .......
Pakistan is saying they have not used f16.....ok lets see what usa says
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Both India and Pakistan are engaged in disingenuous information campaign of half truths and/or outright lies to support their propaganda narratives. I can't believe educated people fall for these crude machinations... but I guess people believe what they like to believe.
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No need to put India in the same bracket as Pakistan. Since Pakistani lies are exposed, lets put India and Pakistan Together.
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That's why I told you to stick to the story - JF17 shot down Su30.
Indians are damn liars like Pakis, have separate propaganda wing for this type of information campaigns. Only brave souls like Burkha and other daring journalists provide real news to the whole world about India.
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Hahahah you nailed the Chinese propaganda!
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Both are lying or on the very least presenting unsubstantiated claims and half-lies, specially majority of their media. Like Pakistani media claiming to have also shot down MKI without proof much like India claiming F-16 shoot down by showing wreckage of Mig-21 or absurdly claiming that an MKI shot down an AMRAAM using another missile...
But I guess it's true indeed that the first casualty in war is the truth (or to be more accurate objectivity)...
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Su- 30 Mki defeated Amraam with ECMs and jamming, who said it shot down amraam??
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The newest claim from Pakistanis is that they are holding captive a Israeli pilot who was flying a Su-30 MKI ...
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Zee news...
IAF SU-30 MKI shot down AIM-120 AMRAAM missile fired by F-16 during PAF's failed raid
https://zeenews.india.com/india/iaf...-by-f-16-during-pafs-failed-raid-2185404.html
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Iaf has not said.....so......
Iaf has said..
"During combat, use of F-16 by PAF and multiple launches of AMRAAM were conclusively observed. Prompt and correct tactical action by Su-30 aircraft, in response to AMRAAM launch, defeated the missile."
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Don't quote Indian Media, according to them K9 vajra is a "tank self propelled hovercraft" they know ratshit abou Defense matters, instead i would suggest you to pay attention on specific words used by IAF spokesman.
"During combat, use of F-16 by PAF&multiple launches of AMRAAM were conclusively observed.Prompt&correct tactical action by Su-30 aircraft,in response to AMRAAM launch,defeated the missile", note the usage of words - " prompt and correct tactical actions by Su 30".
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Next time there is a dog fight, india security establishment better develop protocols to photograph the plane wreckage via satellites within the golden hour.
I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot more of these dog fights for next 20 years. Logic is that since we are using conventional tools for non-conventional warfare, it’s the missiles or air power that need to be used, air power being most likely.
As things escalate we might even be targeting camps in Afghanistan or afghan border. If AirPower is used, pakis will respond with AirPower, hence more dogfights until we develop a integrated situational awareness across all platforms.
I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot more of these dog fights for next 20 years. Logic is that since we are using conventional tools for non-conventional warfare, it’s the missiles or air power that need to be used, air power being most likely.
As things escalate we might even be targeting camps in Afghanistan or afghan border. If AirPower is used, pakis will respond with AirPower, hence more dogfights until we develop a integrated situational awareness across all platforms.
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It's very easy to pay private satellite operators to be able to get hi res satellite photos like what media companies do, if IAF is too worried about revealing too much of its satellite capabilities. Anyway the probable crash site would be well known to IAF who no doubt had AWACS in the area.
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