IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

[Antriksh mishra]

shahbaz haider of 19sqn sherdil seems to be the F 16 pilot that got killed, he also look like a sikh. (locals thrashed one pilot as he looked like sikh and had tricolor parachute)


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They have come up with this now.

 

[maomao]

The India attitude is like this
>Let s400 come then we will be strong.
>After s 400 arrives
>Let AMCA arrive then we will be strong
>After AMCA arrives
>Let Rail Guns arrive them we will be strong.
LMAO

But who bombed Balakot with old Mirage 2000s? Israelis? Lol

Who got into a dogfight with upgraded F16 with Mig21 bison? Bangladeshis? Lol

 

[Foxbat]

Imran Khan wrote an opinion Article in the New York Times:
Imran Khan: The World Can’t Ignore Kashmir. We Are All in Danger.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/30/opinion/imran-khan-kashmir-pakistan.html

"We asked for evidence, but Mr. Modi sent Indian Air Force fighter planes across the border to Pakistan. Our Air Force brought down an Indian plane and captured the pilot. We struck back to signal we could defend ourselves but chose not to strike a target that would cause loss of life."

So even he has changed his statement of two planes and two pilots to one plane and pilot :biggrin2:

 

[StealthFlanker]

I found this on the net, it might annoy many here, but nevertheless, 90% of the truth is still not the truth
Soviet planes had several iterations of ejection seats, including but not limited to K-22, KS, KM-1, KT-1, K-36 etc.

Here's how a K-22, a seat used in MiG-19 worked:

One couldn't help but noticing that a separate stabilizing/main chute deployment parachute exists.

The venerable MiG-21 used several different seats, with early models having KS, which in the later models, including MiG-21bis, were upgraded to KM-1 ejection seat. And it's my pleasure to inform the entire congregation of "Second Chute Church" that after the ejection the seat also deploys it's own parachute and lands in the immediate vicinity of the pilot. "Why would they do that?", one may wonder? Well you see, the seat carried the survival kit for the pilot (НАЗ-7), so it had to land near the pilot for him to be able to use that, as neatly illustrated by this caricature from the polish magazine. Whoever doubts me may type all that text manually into translator. I didn't do that, because I believe it will be pretty identical to the russian sources I found online.

They say that the picture is worth that a thousand words, so let me post some for your entertainment:

Exhibit 1: LNA Fishbed shot down in Libya this summer, pilot ejected, survived, captured. Run a reverse image search to read the details. Please note the holy second chute:

Exhibit 2: Libyan Air Force Flogger (MiG-23 also used KM-1) shot down over Benghazi in spring 2011, pilot ejected, survived. Run a reverse image search to read the details. Please note the holy second chute:

Now to the videos, I found one quite interesting and informative. It's mainly about Soviet K-36 (an impressive specimen to say the least!), but I believe there's footage of Fishbed also (maybe KM-1, maybe modified to accept K-36) at 0:55 mark:

Exhibit 3a: @00:55-01:03 a single person ejects from a plane that looks a lot like Fishbed then transforms into two separate chutes, because the seat has it's own
Exhibit 3b: @01:47-01:54 we see footage of Fullback ejection. It apparently uses older generation of K-36 seat, because two ejected dummies are separatee from their seats... which soon after deploy their own chutes, doubling the number of chutes. Note that the seat chutes are slightly different from persons' chutes. I hope none of you are going to claim a four-seater Fullback exists.
Exhibit 3c: @01:55-02:00 we are treated to a footage of ejection from the tail of a "flying lab". I believe this is also an early gen K-36. As one can notice (watch at 0,25 speed) the seat deploys it's own chute and can be seen dangling near by the pilot in the upper right corner after disappearing from the frame for a second.

"Well why don't you see seat having their own chutes in some well documented crashes at airshows?" Well, I got two versions for that. Either it's disabled/removed because the pilots don't need survival kit at the airshow, OR they were equipped with later gen K-36 (called K-36M, K-36D and K-36D-3,5) which got rid of the seat chute in lieu of strapping survival kit (upgraded to НАЗ-8) directly to the pilot:

Actually, one can see footage @01:16-01:19 of ejected pilot with a raft dangling beneath him after two Fulcrums collided at 1993 RIAT. Or one can look up footage of Fencer shot down by Turks. It also features two pilots parachuting down with rafts dangling beneath them. Su-24 was the first aircraft to feature K-36 seat and thus is eligible to be upgraded to newer K-36 models.

So there you have it: the second chute apparently seen by the locals (but so far absent from any footage) is not a conclusive proof of the second downed aircraft, since MiG-21 would have produced two chutes by itself.

 

[Deathstar]

I found this on the net, it might annoy many here, but nevertheless, 90% of the truth is still not the truth
Soviet planes had several iterations of ejection seats, including but not limited to K-22, KS, KM-1, KT-1, K-36 etc.

Here's how a K-22, a seat used in MiG-19 worked:

One couldn't help but noticing that a separate stabilizing/main chute deployment parachute exists.

The venerable MiG-21 used several different seats, with early models having KS, which in the later models, including MiG-21bis, were upgraded to KM-1 ejection seat. And it's my pleasure to inform the entire congregation of "Second Chute Church" that after the ejection the seat also deploys it's own parachute and lands in the immediate vicinity of the pilot. "Why would they do that?", one may wonder? Well you see, the seat carried the survival kit for the pilot (НАЗ-7), so it had to land near the pilot for him to be able to use that, as neatly illustrated by this caricature from the polish magazine. Whoever doubts me may type all that text manually into translator. I didn't do that, because I believe it will be pretty identical to the russian sources I found online.

They say that the picture is worth that a thousand words, so let me post some for your entertainment:

Exhibit 1: LNA Fishbed shot down in Libya this summer, pilot ejected, survived, captured. Run a reverse image search to read the details. Please note the holy second chute:

Exhibit 2: Libyan Air Force Flogger (MiG-23 also used KM-1) shot down over Benghazi in spring 2011, pilot ejected, survived. Run a reverse image search to read the details. Please note the holy second chute:

Now to the videos, I found one quite interesting and informative. It's mainly about Soviet K-36 (an impressive specimen to say the least!), but I believe there's footage of Fishbed also (maybe KM-1, maybe modified to accept K-36) at 0:55 mark:

Exhibit 3a: @00:55-01:03 a single person ejects from a plane that looks a lot like Fishbed then transforms into two separate chutes, because the seat has it's own
Exhibit 3b: @01:47-01:54 we see footage of Fullback ejection. It apparently uses older generation of K-36 seat, because two ejected dummies are separatee from their seats... which soon after deploy their own chutes, doubling the number of chutes. Note that the seat chutes are slightly different from persons' chutes. I hope none of you are going to claim a four-seater Fullback exists.
Exhibit 3c: @01:55-02:00 we are treated to a footage of ejection from the tail of a "flying lab". I believe this is also an early gen K-36. As one can notice (watch at 0,25 speed) the seat deploys it's own chute and can be seen dangling near by the pilot in the upper right corner after disappearing from the frame for a second.

"Well why don't you see seat having their own chutes in some well documented crashes at airshows?" Well, I got two versions for that. Either it's disabled/removed because the pilots don't need survival kit at the airshow, OR they were equipped with later gen K-36 (called K-36M, K-36D and K-36D-3,5) which got rid of the seat chute in lieu of strapping survival kit (upgraded to НАЗ-8) directly to the pilot:

Actually, one can see footage @01:16-01:19 of ejected pilot with a raft dangling beneath him after two Fulcrums collided at 1993 RIAT. Or one can look up footage of Fencer shot down by Turks. It also features two pilots parachuting down with rafts dangling beneath them. Su-24 was the first aircraft to feature K-36 seat and thus is eligible to be upgraded to newer K-36 models.

So there you have it: the second chute apparently seen by the locals (but so far absent from any footage) is not a conclusive proof of the second downed aircraft, since MiG-21 would have produced two chutes by itself.

Downing of 2nd aircraft has already been proved by the article of Sameer Joshi , do search and read
And this chute is mere speculation right , it assumes that Mig21 could have this type of chute.
And video proofs show chutes 13 km apart from each other ,so conclude for yourself

 

[vampyrbladez]

I found this on the net, it might annoy many here, but nevertheless, 90% of the truth is still not the truth
Soviet planes had several iterations of ejection seats, including but not limited to K-22, KS, KM-1, KT-1, K-36 etc.

Here's how a K-22, a seat used in MiG-19 worked:

One couldn't help but noticing that a separate stabilizing/main chute deployment parachute exists.

The venerable MiG-21 used several different seats, with early models having KS, which in the later models, including MiG-21bis, were upgraded to KM-1 ejection seat. And it's my pleasure to inform the entire congregation of "Second Chute Church" that after the ejection the seat also deploys it's own parachute and lands in the immediate vicinity of the pilot. "Why would they do that?", one may wonder? Well you see, the seat carried the survival kit for the pilot (НАЗ-7), so it had to land near the pilot for him to be able to use that, as neatly illustrated by this caricature from the polish magazine. Whoever doubts me may type all that text manually into translator. I didn't do that, because I believe it will be pretty identical to the russian sources I found online.

They say that the picture is worth that a thousand words, so let me post some for your entertainment:

Exhibit 1: LNA Fishbed shot down in Libya this summer, pilot ejected, survived, captured. Run a reverse image search to read the details. Please note the holy second chute:

Exhibit 2: Libyan Air Force Flogger (MiG-23 also used KM-1) shot down over Benghazi in spring 2011, pilot ejected, survived. Run a reverse image search to read the details. Please note the holy second chute:

Now to the videos, I found one quite interesting and informative. It's mainly about Soviet K-36 (an impressive specimen to say the least!), but I believe there's footage of Fishbed also (maybe KM-1, maybe modified to accept K-36) at 0:55 mark:

Exhibit 3a: @00:55-01:03 a single person ejects from a plane that looks a lot like Fishbed then transforms into two separate chutes, because the seat has it's own
Exhibit 3b: @01:47-01:54 we see footage of Fullback ejection. It apparently uses older generation of K-36 seat, because two ejected dummies are separatee from their seats... which soon after deploy their own chutes, doubling the number of chutes. Note that the seat chutes are slightly different from persons' chutes. I hope none of you are going to claim a four-seater Fullback exists.
Exhibit 3c: @01:55-02:00 we are treated to a footage of ejection from the tail of a "flying lab". I believe this is also an early gen K-36. As one can notice (watch at 0,25 speed) the seat deploys it's own chute and can be seen dangling near by the pilot in the upper right corner after disappearing from the frame for a second.

"Well why don't you see seat having their own chutes in some well documented crashes at airshows?" Well, I got two versions for that. Either it's disabled/removed because the pilots don't need survival kit at the airshow, OR they were equipped with later gen K-36 (called K-36M, K-36D and K-36D-3,5) which got rid of the seat chute in lieu of strapping survival kit (upgraded to НАЗ-8) directly to the pilot:

Actually, one can see footage @01:16-01:19 of ejected pilot with a raft dangling beneath him after two Fulcrums collided at 1993 RIAT. Or one can look up footage of Fencer shot down by Turks. It also features two pilots parachuting down with rafts dangling beneath them. Su-24 was the first aircraft to feature K-36 seat and thus is eligible to be upgraded to newer K-36 models.

So there you have it: the second chute apparently seen by the locals (but so far absent from any footage) is not a conclusive proof of the second downed aircraft, since MiG-21 would have produced two chutes by itself.

Stop shilling for Pakis! We know you Chinks have such a hard on for them.

8 pieces of clinching evidence that show how IAF’s Abhinandan shot down a Pakistani F-16

Using Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) & other evidence, an IAF veteran reconstructs IAF-PAF battle day after Balakot & concludes PAF indeed lost an F-16.

https://theprint.in/defence/8-piece...abhinandan-shot-down-a-pakistani-f-16/278752/

 

[mayfair]

since MiG-21 would have produced two chutes by itself.

Overlooks certain points

1. If there were two Mig-21 chutes, Bakis would have displayed both as evidence, especially since they were claiming a second pilot was loose in the area.

2. The The two chutes were observed considerable distance, so unless you are claiming that Mig somehow after being released two chutes while crashing at different distances, it does not compute.

 

[Sayaaf]

Hassan Siddiq Wearing a SU-30 Kill Patch

 

[IndianHawk]

Hassan Siddiq Wearing a SU-30 Kill Patch

It's as made up as alla by a pedophile prophet. Lol.

 

[Absolut_Vodka]

Hassan Siddiq Wearing a SU-30 Kill Patch

Funny thing is due to frustrations of DRFM pod (Same carried by Su30), USA itself is developing long range Sidewinder v/s AIM 120D version of AMRAAMs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-9_Sidewinder#Block_III

The need for the AIM-9 to have an increased range was from digital radio frequency memory (DRFM) jammers that can blind the onboard radar of an AIM-120D AMRAAM, so the Sidewinder Block III's passive imaging infrared homing guidance system was a useful alternative.

D version is more capable than C5 which PAF fired.

 

[angeldude13]

Hassan Siddiq Wearing a SU-30 Kill Patch

It funny that porks are still wearing these.
Imrandi and other swined have multiple times accepted that they shot down only one plane.

Again we are talking about a coward punjabi airforce that can only bomb innocent baloch and pashtun civilians.

 

[hit&run]

Hassan Siddiq Wearing a SU-30 Kill Patch

The sticker should read.

O My Prophet it's hard to...... be a pedophile.

 

[armyofhind]

I found this on the net, it might annoy many here, but nevertheless, 90% of the truth is still not the truth
Soviet planes had several iterations of ejection seats, including but not limited to K-22, KS, KM-1, KT-1, K-36 etc.

Here's how a K-22, a seat used in MiG-19 worked:

One couldn't help but noticing that a separate stabilizing/main chute deployment parachute exists.

The venerable MiG-21 used several different seats, with early models having KS, which in the later models, including MiG-21bis, were upgraded to KM-1 ejection seat. And it's my pleasure to inform the entire congregation of "Second Chute Church" that after the ejection the seat also deploys it's own parachute and lands in the immediate vicinity of the pilot. "Why would they do that?", one may wonder? Well you see, the seat carried the survival kit for the pilot (НАЗ-7), so it had to land near the pilot for him to be able to use that, as neatly illustrated by this caricature from the polish magazine. Whoever doubts me may type all that text manually into translator. I didn't do that, because I believe it will be pretty identical to the russian sources I found online.

They say that the picture is worth that a thousand words, so let me post some for your entertainment:

Exhibit 1: LNA Fishbed shot down in Libya this summer, pilot ejected, survived, captured. Run a reverse image search to read the details. Please note the holy second chute:

Exhibit 2: Libyan Air Force Flogger (MiG-23 also used KM-1) shot down over Benghazi in spring 2011, pilot ejected, survived. Run a reverse image search to read the details. Please note the holy second chute:

Now to the videos, I found one quite interesting and informative. It's mainly about Soviet K-36 (an impressive specimen to say the least!), but I believe there's footage of Fishbed also (maybe KM-1, maybe modified to accept K-36) at 0:55 mark:

Exhibit 3a: @00:55-01:03 a single person ejects from a plane that looks a lot like Fishbed then transforms into two separate chutes, because the seat has it's own
Exhibit 3b: @01:47-01:54 we see footage of Fullback ejection. It apparently uses older generation of K-36 seat, because two ejected dummies are separatee from their seats... which soon after deploy their own chutes, doubling the number of chutes. Note that the seat chutes are slightly different from persons' chutes. I hope none of you are going to claim a four-seater Fullback exists.
Exhibit 3c: @01:55-02:00 we are treated to a footage of ejection from the tail of a "flying lab". I believe this is also an early gen K-36. As one can notice (watch at 0,25 speed) the seat deploys it's own chute and can be seen dangling near by the pilot in the upper right corner after disappearing from the frame for a second.

"Well why don't you see seat having their own chutes in some well documented crashes at airshows?" Well, I got two versions for that. Either it's disabled/removed because the pilots don't need survival kit at the airshow, OR they were equipped with later gen K-36 (called K-36M, K-36D and K-36D-3,5) which got rid of the seat chute in lieu of strapping survival kit (upgraded to НАЗ-8) directly to the pilot:

Actually, one can see footage @01:16-01:19 of ejected pilot with a raft dangling beneath him after two Fulcrums collided at 1993 RIAT. Or one can look up footage of Fencer shot down by Turks. It also features two pilots parachuting down with rafts dangling beneath them. Su-24 was the first aircraft to feature K-36 seat and thus is eligible to be upgraded to newer K-36 models.

So there you have it: the second chute apparently seen by the locals (but so far absent from any footage) is not a conclusive proof of the second downed aircraft, since MiG-21 would have produced two chutes by itself.

Extensive analysis but half baked and of substandard quality like most chinese products.

The Mig-21 shot down was a Bison, which uses a Zvezda K-36 zero-zero ejection seat, the same on the Sukhoi-30MKI.

Before you trouble your strained little mind, no it does not produce two parachutes.

Its a miracle in itself that your mind is trying to connect two chutes sighted 13km apart from each other with the two chutes produced by an older generation Mig-21 ejection seat.

Oh by the way, since your relationship with the Porks is higher than the skies and deeper than the oceans, you should try looking for the honor of the downed Pakistani pilot in the aforementioned two places, who gave his life for his country but wasn't even acknowledged for it.

 

[ezsasa]

Hassan Siddiq Wearing a SU-30 Kill Patch

Your parents read this headline in dawn newspaper on dec 16th 1971, doesn’t mean it happened...

40-50 years later your punjabi grandchildren will be quoting similar imaginary victories to my grandchildren on “internet”.. history keeps repeating itself because you guys never learn..

 

[Brahmos_ii]

Mods I request you to kindly lock this thread... There is no evidence Indian bison shotting down Viper.... Till the evidence is presented I request this thread should be kept locked.... We don't need to behave like Paki pigs....

for some reason most of congress followers are not believing what is said by our IA/IAF/IN or even PM and Ministers, they only believe if great person like papu say some thing then only they can trust it.

dont know when this educated fools will wake for the reality

 

[Neptune]

Hassan Siddiq Wearing a SU-30 Kill Patch

They also believe and swear by the following:


They defeated the Soviets (even Germans could not achieve such a feat despite killing tens of millions of Russians and devastating their cities).

They shot down a Soviet Mig-23 which was proven a lie.

Some peasant pilot shot down 5 Indian aircraft within a few seconds (god willing) lol.

Mohammad flew to the moon and split it in half.

The sun sets in a pond.

There are 7 heavens.

Dunking a disease carrying fly in your food will cleans it.

Jesus never was crucified (Allah only made it appear like he did) despite Roman records proving that to be false: likewise every scholar and historian rebuke that claim.

Mohammad was the best human to ever live despite being a murdering, child molesting, suicidal sex predator suffering from sexually transmitted diseases and suffering psychosis.

Mohammad teaches that lying is permissible so what did anyone expect from such goons?

 

[ArgonPrime]

They also believe and swear by the following:


They defeated the Soviets (even Germans could not achieve such a feat despite killing tens of millions of Russians and devastating their cities).

They shot down a Soviet Mig-23 which was proven a lie.

Some peasant pilot shot down 5 Indian aircraft within a few seconds (god willing) lol.

Mohammad flew to the moon and split it in half.

The sun sets in a pond.

There are 7 heavens.

Dunking a disease carrying fly in your food will cleans it.

Jesus never was crucified (Allah only made it appear like he did) despite Roman records proving that to be false: likewise every scholar and historian rebuke that claim.

Mohammad was the best human to ever live despite being a murdering, child molesting, suicidal sex predator suffering from sexually transmitted diseases and suffering psychosis.

Mohammad teaches that lying is permissible so what did anyone expect from such goons?

Did that hippy even exist for real??!!I highly doubt he did.

 

[Neptune]

Hassan Siddiq Wearing a SU-30 Kill Patch

Refer to post #1996 to see that is bullshit. The Pakistanis could not come up with a single shred of evidence for any such event taking place, nor did anyone ever discover any wreckage, pilots, or explosions, the Pakistanis could not provide any evidence whatsoever in fact they got caught lying about multiple pilots being captured, Lockheed suing India, AMMRAM wreckage being fake, F-16s not participating, etc.

It’s embarrassing how low they have gone.

 

[Neptune]

Did that hippy even exist for real??!!I highly doubt he did.

Jesus? Yes, there is Roman records of him, Mohammad ripped off ideas from Christianity and infused it with lies and self serving BS.

Off topic though.

 

[vampyrbladez]

Hassan Siddiq Wearing a SU-30 Kill Patch

Hassan Mia if this whole Sukhoi business was true then why were you awarded a Tamgha-i-Jurat while your senior got a Sitara-i-Jurat for the MiG 21 kill? Surely you have enough common sense to understand even your own military admits Alpha 3 went down that day!

Wing Commander Noman Ali was conferred Sitara-i-Jurat and Sq Leader Hasan Mehmood Siddiqui was awarded Tamgha-i-Jurat.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pa...h-military-medals-for-downing-indian-jet/amp/

https://theprint.in/defence/8-piece...abhinandan-shot-down-a-pakistani-f-16/278752/

Meanwhile our WCO Abhi has been awarded the Vir Chakra for the F 16 kill equivalent to your Sitara medal.

Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman, who downed an enemy jet during an aerial combat with Pakistan in February and was held captive for three days, has been conferred the Vir Chakra, India’s third-highest war time gallantry medal.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...-on-independence-day/article29090716.ece/amp/

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