I was offered a bribe of Rs. 14 crore, says Army Chief

[Blackwater]

Jai jawan Jai kishan Ab kaha raha hamara Bharat desh mahan:thumb::thumb::thumb:

 

[Yusuf]

Yusufji, Come on. Its about time we stopped this non sense. We have become so used to corruption so much so that we have started to tolerate even the Corruption in our own security. When will we change then?

Ok let me ask you this.

Will you want the the Rafale inducted in IAF to plug the gaping holes in our air force EVEN IF they have paid kickbacks or scrap the MRCA deal and start to investigate who got kickbacks and how much and not buy another fighter for 10 years while the MiG21s keep dropping from the skies and take with them a few brave pilots? All this while our squad strength comes down to about 20? And yes since Dassault paid kickbacks means they will be blacklisted and therefore no upgrades for Mirage. You are left with a joke of an airforce.

Now make your choice.

 

[Bhadra]

Depper rot :

Bharat Rakshak • View topic - Indian Army : News and Discussion

 

[nitesh]

Oh, here it goes, Tatra is in for a turbulent times

Tata, Leyland woo Army orders - Hindustan Times

 

[KS]

From BR.....

I don't understand on what basis anyone can defend Antony. The fact that he doesn't take personal bribes?

True honesty in his position is about COURAGE and CHARACTER and ACTION. Does Antony have any of these traits?

What is his primary responsibility to the nation?
1. Defense preparedness of Indian armed forces, including equipment, training and morale.
OR
2. Ensuring that there is no corruption in defense deals

I hope we can all agree that it's #1.

If Antony succeeds in ensuring that there is no corruption, but neglects his primary duty to the nation, he has FAILED.

And if he is so serious about weeding out corruption that he takes even anonymous letters seriously, then please explain to me why, when the Chief of Indian Army is walking into his office and telling him personally about a bribery attempt, didn't he jump up and down and follow this lead to its logical end like a hound dog?

It is NOT the Chief's job to go after people outside the Army. It is the Defense Minister's job.

Antony has failed his office, he has failed the armed services and he has failed his nation.

 

[KS]

VK Singh bribe row: Congress fears probe may implicate Rajiv Gandhi - India - DNA

 

[Ray]

BADGE OF SHAME

The Indian army's saga of shame continues. Ironically, the chief of the army is inextricably linked to this unfolding tale. First, it was a pointless squabble over the army chief's date of birth. Something that could have been corrected and resolved within a few minutes was made to drag on to an unseemly legal battle between the army chief, V.K. Singh, and the government of India. No sooner had the dust died down over this controversy that Mr Singh chose to burst another bombshell. He said in an interview that a former general of the Indian army had offered him a bribe for sanctioning the purchase of trucks. He had reported the incident to the minister of defence, A.K. Antony. According to the latter, the army chief had expressed a desire not to pursue the matter. The incident, it should be mentioned, occurred more than a year ago. This raises a number of questions to which Mr Singh or the defence minister is not offering any answers or even clues to an answer. Why did Mr Singh decide not to pursue the matter? Why is he raking up the matter now at the fag end of his career? And why did he not ask the military police to detain the former general who had offered the bribe?

These questions strongly suggest that Mr Singh failed to do his duty. He has thus brought shame and dishonour to the institution that he claims he has served with honour. Further, Mr Singh, in various interviews, is throwing out tantalizing hints that what he has revealed is only a small part of the truth. This, again, is extraordinary and mystifying. If indeed Mr Singh has knowledge about skeletons in the army's cupboard, he should bring them to light instead of being coy about them or, what is worse, trying to use these 'secrets' as pawns in some obscure chess game. It is nobody's argument or belief that the army in India is squeaky clean. There is enough evidence to indicate the contrary. Mr Singh would be doing a great service to the army and the nation by revealing what he knows. By speaking in hints and suggestions and by not taking appropriate action when required, Mr Singh has done serious damage to his credibility. The cumulative harm done to the morale of the Indian army is immeasurable. The jawans of the Indian army deserve better than what the top brass of the army are now doing in terms of bringing down confidence. Obviously, something is rotten or rotting.

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Rather interesting.

This editorial seems to be reading into the minds of jawan.

In fact, the Army, which has been taken for a ride by the Ministers and the bureaucracy all long post Independence, are .delighted that for once someone amongst the brass has given a mule kick from which these maggots have been left reeling and stunned!

Of course, there is no denial that there are those who are on the Govt's side like the Air Force chap Ahluwalia or Mr Haw Haw Hoon!

 

[nitesh]

VK Singh bribe row: Congress fears probe may implicate Rajiv Gandhi - India - DNA

So, the operation mop up has begun

DNA: India - To shield Rajiv Gandhi, govt aims to limit probe

 

[arya]

now we have to think and act on right direction , the important things

1 ) forces are facing corruption and its level is high (IB,RAW,CBI) should act on that

2) the important point is we need weapons , Fighter planes, guns,etc

well both points are important and we have to work on both

 

[Ray]

IB,RAW,CBI

Are they free of corruption?

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

The corruption related to the R&AW has been brought into light in the case of buying equipment's for the S.F.F.(Special Frontier Force).

 

[arya]

IB,RAW,CBI

Are they free of corruption?

no they are not but do you think a doctor can do his operation by him self

well corruption is not good for our force and now its open so we have to do some operation for that cancer

but first important point should be how to give strength to our force , now our force is like a lion without teeth, a lady without beauty .

 

[Ray]

We have to get the investigating agencies out of the grip of the govt.

No wonder Laloo wants Govt control not to go.

 

[arya]

We have to get the investigating agencies out of the grip of the govt.

No wonder Laloo wants Govt control not to go.

come on ray be practicle do you think now in days honest peoples remain may be 2%-5% yes we can outsource from mars .

well every one know about middle man in force and they are in every field .but the problem is that our force is lacking.

every one know about commission or middle man and trust me you cant remove from the system, and ever one use middle man in normal life .

tell me dont you use middle man till now in your life ..

 

[Ray]

No, I have not used a middle man, who was not licensed to do it.

For instance, to pay my road tax, I used AAEI, which is authorised by the State Govt.

I buy tickets for my air journeys from an agency. They are authorised to do it,

And so on and so forth.

 

[sob]

MOD was aware of the Tatra bribery issue as far back as 2009 when their own party member Ghulam Nabi Azad wrote to the Raksha Mantri pointing this out. But our St. Antony for reasons best known to him sat on it.

St. Antony asks COAS for a written complaint to act against Tatra while he is sitting conviniently on a written complaint 3 years old.

DNA exclusive: AK Antony was aware of Tatra scam since 2009 - India - DNA

Defence minister AK Antony was formally apprised of the Tatra trucks scam as early as 2009 but he turned a blind eye. DNA detailed this scam in a series of investigative stories in July 2011.

This assumes significance because Antony recently told Parliament that he didn't act when army chief General VK Singh told him he was offered a Rs14 crore bribe to clear the purchase of a tranche of substandard Tatra trucks because he didn't get a 'written complaint'.

If a 'written complaint' is what it takes to act, why didn't Antony or his ministry react when Ghulam Nabi Azad, a senior Congress party colleague and then health minister, wrote to him on behalf of Sonia Gandhi requesting "necessary action" in the Tatra matter? DNA has a copy of Azad's letter dated October 5, 2009.

 

[Yusuf]

If that letter was written by Azad on behalf of Sonia Gandhi then what is the news about people wanting to shield Rajiv Gandhi in Tatra case?

Doesn't make sense

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Well well, now then, more and more beans are spilling out and this time it from the BEML and TATRA VECTRA side and the whistle blower says that he had already complained to the chief of BEML in the year 2005 that the chief must resign as he had 3 criminal cases against him and has no moral to continue as the chief. Times now is showing the whistle blower and he is showing the documents.......

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Tatra: Whiff of a scam?



TIMES NOW has accessed a letter of a whistleblower demanding resignation of BEML CMD over charges of alleged misappropriation of funds. The letter claimed that BEML CMD VRS Natarajan allegedly misappropriated funds to the tune of Rs 150 crore. The letter also went on to claim that the clarification issued by BEML CMD following media reports of irregularities is untrue. The letter also said that Tatra Sipox was not an Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) as it was allegedly registered as a Marriage Bureau. It claimed that BEML CMD and Tatra allegedly mislead the Indian government that Tatra Sipox is a fully owned subsidiary of OEM.

Tatra: Whiff of a scam?-India-TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos

 

[Ray]

Hanumanthappa was given the details of the CMD Natarajan and his skimming the fund and he passed it on to various Ministers and also Sonia Gandhi.

Azad, sent it to the Defence Minister.

Nothing happened.