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NationPosted at: Jul 9 2015 4:23PM
N-sub INS Arihant to test-fire missile
New ICBM planned to match China’s growing arsenal
File photo of INS Arihant
Ajay Banerjee
Tribune News Service
New Delhi, July 9
Altering India’s strategic offensive, nuclear-powered submarine INS Arihant will undergo its first-ever missile firing test this year, while separately a 10,000-km range nuclear missile is planned to match neighbour China’s growing arsenal.
The Defence Research Development and Organisation (DRDO) has proposed the new missile AGNI-VI that comes after the success of AGNI-V which is slated for a possible final test in December this year.
Dr S. Chirstopher, Director General of DRDO and Secretary Research and Development, told The Tribune on Thursday that India can have a missile that can travel a distance of 10,000 km, albeit with a smaller warhead than the AGNI-V.
“We have to now present our case to the government for explaining the need for such a missile”, Dr Chirstopher said while accepting that AGNI-VI is on the drawing board. This will be an Inter-Continental Ballatic Missile (ICBM) like AGNI-V.
Speaking about the Arihant, the indigenous nuclear-powered Submarine, Dr Chirstopher said “the vessel is slated for deep diving tests and the missile named ‘B-05’ is to be test-fired from the vessel. These tests will be done within this year”.
The B-05 missile is capable of carrying a nuclear-tipped warhead and is a medium-range missile, he said.
The DRDO chief said the long-range submarine-fired K-4 missile is not slated for testing now.
The AGNI-V possible last test slated in December could be its last before it’s inducted. “To declare a missile proven, we need three consecutive successful tests. In case the next test is okay, we can taper off the testing”. The missile can fire at targets 5,500 km away.
AGNI-V has undergone its last flight test in February this year. The first test was conducted on April 19, 2012, and the second test on September 15, 2013.
India has at present in its armoury of Agni series, Agni-1 with 700 km range, Agni-2 with 2,000 km range, Agni-3 and Agni-4 with 2,500 km to more than 3,500 km range.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/n-sub-ins-arihant-to-test-fire-missile/104454.html
N-sub INS Arihant to test-fire missile
New ICBM planned to match China’s growing arsenal
Ajay Banerjee
Tribune News Service
New Delhi, July 9
Altering India’s strategic offensive, nuclear-powered submarine INS Arihant will undergo its first-ever missile firing test this year, while separately a 10,000-km range nuclear missile is planned to match neighbour China’s growing arsenal.
The Defence Research Development and Organisation (DRDO) has proposed the new missile AGNI-VI that comes after the success of AGNI-V which is slated for a possible final test in December this year.
Dr S. Chirstopher, Director General of DRDO and Secretary Research and Development, told The Tribune on Thursday that India can have a missile that can travel a distance of 10,000 km, albeit with a smaller warhead than the AGNI-V.
“We have to now present our case to the government for explaining the need for such a missile”, Dr Chirstopher said while accepting that AGNI-VI is on the drawing board. This will be an Inter-Continental Ballatic Missile (ICBM) like AGNI-V.
Speaking about the Arihant, the indigenous nuclear-powered Submarine, Dr Chirstopher said “the vessel is slated for deep diving tests and the missile named ‘B-05’ is to be test-fired from the vessel. These tests will be done within this year”.
The B-05 missile is capable of carrying a nuclear-tipped warhead and is a medium-range missile, he said.
The DRDO chief said the long-range submarine-fired K-4 missile is not slated for testing now.
The AGNI-V possible last test slated in December could be its last before it’s inducted. “To declare a missile proven, we need three consecutive successful tests. In case the next test is okay, we can taper off the testing”. The missile can fire at targets 5,500 km away.
AGNI-V has undergone its last flight test in February this year. The first test was conducted on April 19, 2012, and the second test on September 15, 2013.
India has at present in its armoury of Agni series, Agni-1 with 700 km range, Agni-2 with 2,000 km range, Agni-3 and Agni-4 with 2,500 km to more than 3,500 km range.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/n-sub-ins-arihant-to-test-fire-missile/104454.html
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http://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2014/08/why-would-india-want-to-develop-10000_26.html
August 26, 2014
The white lines represent the 10,000 km range (with a 500kg warhead?) of an Agni 6 (Agni VI) ICBM. The minimum and main Indian objective is the ability for at least one Agni 6 to deploy 3 tonnes of warheads from one missile onto Chinese northeast coast cities. The inner red circle is the 4,000 km range (with one tonne warhead?) of an Agni 4 (Agni IV) which may be operational in 2017. India's now operational Agni 3 (Agni III) can just reach Beijing with one 500 kg (no MIRV yet) warhead.
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The flight of the 3 booster-stage Agni 6 with several MIRVs. Note that chaff might also be released to confuse anti-missle defence sensors including radar and perhaps satellite electro-optical.
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Agni 6 (Agni VI)'s likely specifications are total weight 55,000 kgs, height 17-20 meters, 1.1 - 2.0 metre diameter, 3 stage rocket boosted. Launched from semi-hidden transporter erector launcher (TEL) truck, or disguised rail car.
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The short answer to "Why would India want to develop a 10,000 km Range ICBM?" is India may develop ICBMs each able to launch several warheads (MIRVs) (all up weighing 3 tonnes) capable of reaching northeast China - around 4,000 km from central India.
A basic law of physics is that due to gravity and momentum there is an inverse relationship between the weight of a warhead and the range of a missile. If the same rocket boosters (better with a slower burning propellant) for the heavy load were used for a light load, amounting to one 500kg warhead, then the range of that warhead may be 10,000 km.
Ranges involve capabilities even if India has no intentions about friendly countries. The 10,000 km range would bring the capitals of three of the other major nuclear powers into range. Such a long range increases flexibility, important for deterrence. For political reasons India probably does not wish to talk about longer range ICBMs - with 13,000 km capable of reaching all nuclear powers.
India has a right to defend itself. Having nuclear missiles with equal capabilities to the missiles of other great powers is important.
India wishes the 10,000 km range missile, known as the Agni 6 (Agni VI), to have characteristics equal to (parity with) the latest ICBMs of India's main nuclear opponent, China. China's latest ICBM under development is the DF-41 (Dongfeng-41) which will have the range to hit any capital of its nuclear opponents, including London and Washington DC. A December 2014 report indicated that China conducted the full test of the DF-41 involving MIRVs The DF-41 has an estimated range of 12,000km and “can carry up to 10 warheads, which separate from the rocket body during the final, third stage of flight and target individual cities. The military has previously carried out tests of the DF-41 but these probably involved only a single warhead”.10,000 km range would also allow India to target SSBNs or warships (especially China's) attempting to hide as far out as the southern Indian Ocean and central Pacific Ocean. This is assuming India develops ICBM guidance systems (like China's DF-21D) against warships and submarines. India would wish that its Agni 6 would have at least the range of China's JL-2 SLBM (currently estimated as 8,000 kms).
The Agni 6 will be an evolutionary development of the Agni series of long range Indian ballistic missiles developed following the test of India's first nuclear device (1974).
Carrying multiple warheads (10 is the usual upper limit) on one missile is the most economical way to deploy warheads and such a deployment is more difficult to defeat with anti-missile defences. These multiple warheads are known as Multiple Independently Targetable Re-entry Vehicles (MIRVs). Along with live warheads light decoys can be carried (to draw off some anti-missile missiles) and various types of "chaff" (to confuse radar defences).
Agni 6 may be first tested in 2017 . Testing may last 4 years to 2021. Then in-service, operational around 2023 or later.
If India has developed fusion boosted fission weapons (like Joe-4) the yield of a single warhead missile may be up to 400 kT). If India has developed two-stage thermonuclear weapons - then each MIRV warhead may well have a yield between 100 to 250kt.
August 26, 2014
The white lines represent the 10,000 km range (with a 500kg warhead?) of an Agni 6 (Agni VI) ICBM. The minimum and main Indian objective is the ability for at least one Agni 6 to deploy 3 tonnes of warheads from one missile onto Chinese northeast coast cities. The inner red circle is the 4,000 km range (with one tonne warhead?) of an Agni 4 (Agni IV) which may be operational in 2017. India's now operational Agni 3 (Agni III) can just reach Beijing with one 500 kg (no MIRV yet) warhead.
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The flight of the 3 booster-stage Agni 6 with several MIRVs. Note that chaff might also be released to confuse anti-missle defence sensors including radar and perhaps satellite electro-optical.
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Agni 6 (Agni VI)'s likely specifications are total weight 55,000 kgs, height 17-20 meters, 1.1 - 2.0 metre diameter, 3 stage rocket boosted. Launched from semi-hidden transporter erector launcher (TEL) truck, or disguised rail car.
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The short answer to "Why would India want to develop a 10,000 km Range ICBM?" is India may develop ICBMs each able to launch several warheads (MIRVs) (all up weighing 3 tonnes) capable of reaching northeast China - around 4,000 km from central India.
A basic law of physics is that due to gravity and momentum there is an inverse relationship between the weight of a warhead and the range of a missile. If the same rocket boosters (better with a slower burning propellant) for the heavy load were used for a light load, amounting to one 500kg warhead, then the range of that warhead may be 10,000 km.
Ranges involve capabilities even if India has no intentions about friendly countries. The 10,000 km range would bring the capitals of three of the other major nuclear powers into range. Such a long range increases flexibility, important for deterrence. For political reasons India probably does not wish to talk about longer range ICBMs - with 13,000 km capable of reaching all nuclear powers.
India has a right to defend itself. Having nuclear missiles with equal capabilities to the missiles of other great powers is important.
India wishes the 10,000 km range missile, known as the Agni 6 (Agni VI), to have characteristics equal to (parity with) the latest ICBMs of India's main nuclear opponent, China. China's latest ICBM under development is the DF-41 (Dongfeng-41) which will have the range to hit any capital of its nuclear opponents, including London and Washington DC. A December 2014 report indicated that China conducted the full test of the DF-41 involving MIRVs The DF-41 has an estimated range of 12,000km and “can carry up to 10 warheads, which separate from the rocket body during the final, third stage of flight and target individual cities. The military has previously carried out tests of the DF-41 but these probably involved only a single warhead”.10,000 km range would also allow India to target SSBNs or warships (especially China's) attempting to hide as far out as the southern Indian Ocean and central Pacific Ocean. This is assuming India develops ICBM guidance systems (like China's DF-21D) against warships and submarines. India would wish that its Agni 6 would have at least the range of China's JL-2 SLBM (currently estimated as 8,000 kms).
The Agni 6 will be an evolutionary development of the Agni series of long range Indian ballistic missiles developed following the test of India's first nuclear device (1974).
Carrying multiple warheads (10 is the usual upper limit) on one missile is the most economical way to deploy warheads and such a deployment is more difficult to defeat with anti-missile defences. These multiple warheads are known as Multiple Independently Targetable Re-entry Vehicles (MIRVs). Along with live warheads light decoys can be carried (to draw off some anti-missile missiles) and various types of "chaff" (to confuse radar defences).
Agni 6 may be first tested in 2017 . Testing may last 4 years to 2021. Then in-service, operational around 2023 or later.
If India has developed fusion boosted fission weapons (like Joe-4) the yield of a single warhead missile may be up to 400 kT). If India has developed two-stage thermonuclear weapons - then each MIRV warhead may well have a yield between 100 to 250kt.
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http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...inal-stages-of-development/article7493545.ece
BMD in final stages of development
India’s Ballistic Missile Defence (BMD) system is in the final stages of development and deployment, Scientific Advisor to Defence Minister, G. Satheesh Reddy, said here on Sunday.
Delivering the 25{+t}{+h}G.S. Sidhu Science Lecture on ‘Trends in Missile Technology’ at the CSIR-Indian Institute of Chemical Technology here, he said BMD was a dream of former President late A.P.J. Abdul Kalam. Paying glowing tributes to him, he said Mr. Kalam always used to “think big” and recalled how he conceived and developed the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP), missile testing range at Balasore and Research Centre Imarat (RCI) here. Describing the 5,000-km plus Agni-V Ballistic Missile as the “pride of India” with ICBM capability, he listed various missiles developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and the technologies that went into them. The design goal for most of them was to lower the mass, increase the range, accuracy and lethality, while ensuring faster delivery, easy operation and lower cost of production and maintenance.
Touching upon new technologies, Dr. Satheesh said work was on to develop navigation on chip by 2017 (a single chip for the whole navigation) and another single chip for the entire avionics required for missiles.
‘DRDO working on hypersonic cruise vehicle and bio-sensors’
BMD in final stages of development
India’s Ballistic Missile Defence (BMD) system is in the final stages of development and deployment, Scientific Advisor to Defence Minister, G. Satheesh Reddy, said here on Sunday.
Delivering the 25{+t}{+h}G.S. Sidhu Science Lecture on ‘Trends in Missile Technology’ at the CSIR-Indian Institute of Chemical Technology here, he said BMD was a dream of former President late A.P.J. Abdul Kalam. Paying glowing tributes to him, he said Mr. Kalam always used to “think big” and recalled how he conceived and developed the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP), missile testing range at Balasore and Research Centre Imarat (RCI) here. Describing the 5,000-km plus Agni-V Ballistic Missile as the “pride of India” with ICBM capability, he listed various missiles developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and the technologies that went into them. The design goal for most of them was to lower the mass, increase the range, accuracy and lethality, while ensuring faster delivery, easy operation and lower cost of production and maintenance.
Touching upon new technologies, Dr. Satheesh said work was on to develop navigation on chip by 2017 (a single chip for the whole navigation) and another single chip for the entire avionics required for missiles.
‘DRDO working on hypersonic cruise vehicle and bio-sensors’
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What this photograph does not say :-
One photograph does say a lot more than a thousand words.
The system plans to target any location on Earth with a precision strike in under 2 hours.
The BMD can only protect against MRBMs. ICBMs need to be intercepted prior to re-entry. Therefore I hope they plan to develop an Anti-satellite capability next.
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BrahMos pushing hypersonic ramjet technology as scramjet stopgap
India-Russia joint venture BrahMos Aerospace wants to double the speed of its ramjet-powered supersonic cruise missile to beyond Mach 5 as an interim step towards the development of a clean-sheet “BrahMos-II” hypersonic weapon.
BrahMos general manager of marketing and export Praveen Pathak says the company’s pursuit of a hypersonic missile remains in the decision phase and could take seven or eight years to fully realise.
He says the central challenge is finding the best materials to protect the hypersonic air vehicle against the extreme temperatures and shockwaves experienced during high-speed flight.
Today’s BrahMos missile travels at Mach 2.5 to 2.8, but the primary goal is to develop a weapon capable of sustaining a top speed of Mach 7 or greater using a supersonic combustion ramjet, or scramjet, engine.
Russia, India, China and the USA are all pursuing hypersonic missiles with the aim of outrunning each other’s air defence systems and boosting the kinetic energy of each strike.
“The main problem scientists are facing is how to withstand so much heat, so it’s the same situation everywhere – whether it’s India, Russia or the US,” says Pathak. “Everyone is driving to have something faster, because whoever gets there faster will be the leader.”
Ramjet engines operate most efficiently at speeds above Mach 2, but BrahMos thinks it might be possible to push ramjet technology into the high-supersonic or low-hypersonic realm.
India displayed its latest air-launched variant of the BrahMos missile at MAKS. The weapon is integrated with the country’s Sukhoi Su-30MKI multirole fighters.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ersonic-ramjet-technology-as-scramjet-416119/
India-Russia joint venture BrahMos Aerospace wants to double the speed of its ramjet-powered supersonic cruise missile to beyond Mach 5 as an interim step towards the development of a clean-sheet “BrahMos-II” hypersonic weapon.
BrahMos general manager of marketing and export Praveen Pathak says the company’s pursuit of a hypersonic missile remains in the decision phase and could take seven or eight years to fully realise.
He says the central challenge is finding the best materials to protect the hypersonic air vehicle against the extreme temperatures and shockwaves experienced during high-speed flight.
Today’s BrahMos missile travels at Mach 2.5 to 2.8, but the primary goal is to develop a weapon capable of sustaining a top speed of Mach 7 or greater using a supersonic combustion ramjet, or scramjet, engine.
Russia, India, China and the USA are all pursuing hypersonic missiles with the aim of outrunning each other’s air defence systems and boosting the kinetic energy of each strike.
“The main problem scientists are facing is how to withstand so much heat, so it’s the same situation everywhere – whether it’s India, Russia or the US,” says Pathak. “Everyone is driving to have something faster, because whoever gets there faster will be the leader.”
Ramjet engines operate most efficiently at speeds above Mach 2, but BrahMos thinks it might be possible to push ramjet technology into the high-supersonic or low-hypersonic realm.
India displayed its latest air-launched variant of the BrahMos missile at MAKS. The weapon is integrated with the country’s Sukhoi Su-30MKI multirole fighters.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ersonic-ramjet-technology-as-scramjet-416119/
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MAterial science........ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW anyone interested can read this ppt to learn about the design and connection of different tech fields.
http://www.uni-stuttgart.de/itlr/graduierten/grk_introduction.pdf
BTW anyone interested can read this ppt to learn about the design and connection of different tech fields.
http://www.uni-stuttgart.de/itlr/graduierten/grk_introduction.pdf
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Not really. American, Chinese, Russian, all 3 have already done their hypersonic speed tests, which means they have found the suitable material. The real challenge for them is: how to manage the controlled manuver.
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Testing and production can be decades apart.
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6 new BrahMos missile systems for Navy likely
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
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I know there was an order by the army for 1,000 . IMO if all services orders are filled it could possibly be 2,000-4,000?? .
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Russia_India_To_Develop_New_BrahMos_Cruise_Missile_999.html
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2000 is too high a number and not justified in anyway. At $2.8 million per unit,Brahmos is an expensive missile.
Army will probably the smallest user of Brahmos. Their apptetie is limited to the number of regiments they raise and the theater they are to be raised in. Naval and AF version are a different thing but even then the number should not cross 1000. These missiles are supposed to be used at high value targets not as a long range guided rocket system.
What India needs is a cheap and reliable subsonic system like Nirbhay with it's half a million dollars price tag and since Paki air defence is as useless as tits on a bull, I'd rather that money on SF, artillery and whatnot. You can buy 6 Nirbhay for the price of one Brahmos.
Army will probably the smallest user of Brahmos. Their apptetie is limited to the number of regiments they raise and the theater they are to be raised in. Naval and AF version are a different thing but even then the number should not cross 1000. These missiles are supposed to be used at high value targets not as a long range guided rocket system.
What India needs is a cheap and reliable subsonic system like Nirbhay with it's half a million dollars price tag and since Paki air defence is as useless as tits on a bull, I'd rather that money on SF, artillery and whatnot. You can buy 6 Nirbhay for the price of one Brahmos.
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1000 brahmos were ordered in 2008 (were ordered by Indian army suppose to be delivered by end of decade-2010 )
Link above post
216 air launched brahmos for sukhois
http://in.rbth.com/blogs/2015/04/20...hoi_is_bad_news_for_indias_enemies_42687.html
If initial 1000 brahmos completed and delivered
Assuming 100 brahmos extra ordered each year for frigates (8 on each) etc...
Would give a rough estimate IMO of 1,700
Assuming numbers are accurate, completed and delivered.
Numbers could also be lower depending on developments in nirbhay and brahmos 2?
Link above post
216 air launched brahmos for sukhois
http://in.rbth.com/blogs/2015/04/20...hoi_is_bad_news_for_indias_enemies_42687.html
If initial 1000 brahmos completed and delivered
Assuming 100 brahmos extra ordered each year for frigates (8 on each) etc...
Would give a rough estimate IMO of 1,700
Assuming numbers are accurate, completed and delivered.
Numbers could also be lower depending on developments in nirbhay and brahmos 2?
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just a question on the brahmos's export potential do you think the brahmos has a chance of being exported? of so to whom? and dont you think the almost identical cx-1 will be exported instead as its more likely to be cheaper and come with other incentives.
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Russia is not serious about exporting Brahmos. It would cut into their cruise missile exports.
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but what about india, i know russia and india need to agree together to export the missile to a country but why does india not look for a suiter
