HAL Prachand - Light Combat Helicopter (LCH)

[Mindrapper]

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what missile is this? helina?

Those are Mistral Missiles.

 

[Chinmoy]

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what missile is this? helina?

Mistral missiles. No HELINA as of now.

 

[Tang]

LCH looks like a plastic toy not a war machine.

LCH is the best looking defence product from India.

 

[patriots]

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what missile is this? helina?

Mistral a2a missile..............
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[WolfPack86]

HAL’s LCH continues to remain ” Toothless” but things might change

In 2017, Then Indian army chief General Bipin Rawat had said Indigenous Attack/combat helicopters HAL Rudra and HAL Light Combat Helicopter have major shortcomings, that is in their current configuration both do not have suitable anti-tank guided missile (ATGM), which is the main weapon of any Attack/Combat helicopters around the world. Fast forward to 2020 and nothing much has changed since then as HAL Rudra MkIV and LCH Helicopters continue to be armed only with French Nexter 20mm turret gun and Belgian 70 mm rockets and waits for ATGM to be used as effective anti-armor, anti-bunker and anti-fortification role for the Strike Corps. DRDO developed Helina and SANT anti-tank guided missile system was supposed to provide lethal aerial firepower against the armored thrust of the rivals but DRDO has not been able to clear this trial phase of this missiles and enter production. DRDO officials have claimed both the missiles are ready for production and have cleared all trials but there seem to be some bottleneck issues with the production of the missile which is yet to resolve. Army already has 60 HAL Rudra MkIV and the chorus has been growing to induct HAL developed LCH also and it seems, Army will clear that proposal to induct 10 LCH and 5 for Air force soon, but both Helicopters will continue to come without any decent ATGM integrated into them. Army has been proposing the integration of American AGM-114 Hellfire air-to-surface missile (ASM) and buys interim stock for both HAL Rudra and LCH fleet but it has some opposition from DRDO which claims its Army which is delaying ordering locally developed Helina and SANT anti-tank guided missile system over imported ATGM. Army also has been offered helo-launched Spike ER and the MBDA PARS L3 anti-tank guided missile from other foreign vendors but turf war is yet to be resolved between Army and DRDO due to which one of the main weapon systems for Gunship Helicopters are still missing but sources close to idrw.org has confirmed that talks are underway to keep both Army and DRDO happy and a deal to arm this gunships with ATGM will be cleared by end of this year.

HAL’s LCH continues to remain ” Toothless” but things might change – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

HAL’s LCH continues to remain ” Toothless” but things might change

In 2017, Then Indian army chief General Bipin Rawat had said Indigenous Attack/combat helicopters HAL Rudra and HAL Light Combat Helicopter have major shortcomings, that is in their current configuration both do not have suitable anti-tank guided missile (ATGM), which is the main weapon of any Attack/Combat helicopters around the world. Fast forward to 2020 and nothing much has changed since then as HAL Rudra MkIV and LCH Helicopters continue to be armed only with French Nexter 20mm turret gun and Belgian 70 mm rockets and waits for ATGM to be used as effective anti-armor, anti-bunker and anti-fortification role for the Strike Corps. DRDO developed Helina and SANT anti-tank guided missile system was supposed to provide lethal aerial firepower against the armored thrust of the rivals but DRDO has not been able to clear this trial phase of this missiles and enter production. DRDO officials have claimed both the missiles are ready for production and have cleared all trials but there seem to be some bottleneck issues with the production of the missile which is yet to resolve. Army already has 60 HAL Rudra MkIV and the chorus has been growing to induct HAL developed LCH also and it seems, Army will clear that proposal to induct 10 LCH and 5 for Air force soon, but both Helicopters will continue to come without any decent ATGM integrated into them. Army has been proposing the integration of American AGM-114 Hellfire air-to-surface missile (ASM) and buys interim stock for both HAL Rudra and LCH fleet but it has some opposition from DRDO which claims its Army which is delaying ordering locally developed Helina and SANT anti-tank guided missile system over imported ATGM. Army also has been offered helo-launched Spike ER and the MBDA PARS L3 anti-tank guided missile from other foreign vendors but turf war is yet to be resolved between Army and DRDO due to which one of the main weapon systems for Gunship Helicopters are still missing but sources close to idrw.org has confirmed that talks are underway to keep both Army and DRDO happy and a deal to arm this gunships with ATGM will be cleared by end of this year.

HAL’s LCH continues to remain ” Toothless” but things might change – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

In such a case why did the Army not ask for integration of LAHAT ATGM's helicopter launched variant??
The air launched version has a range of 8-13 km and would have served as a stopgap measure till the integration of Helina ATGM.

 

[Bhadra]

Mistral atam of hal lch

MISTRAL ATAM
AIR-TO-AIR SYSTEM
FOR HELICOPTERS

Four ready-to-fire MISTRAL missiles
Unlimited flight envelope
Adaptable to any type of helicopter
In full operational service
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DESCRIPTION

MISTRAL ATAM is based on the MISTRAL missile with its fire-and-forget engagement mode, ease of operation and unrivalled kill probability.

The system is based on two launchers, each bearing two missiles and can be connected to the helicopter’s combat system, when mounted on combat helicopters, or through simplified control equipment if installed on multi-purpose helicopters.

In both cases, it is characterised by simplicity of operation, a very low crew workload and a high level of performance.

The system can be operated within the whole flight envelope of the launch helicopter, at speeds of up to 200 knots and at altitudes exceeding 15,000 ft.

CHARACTERISTICS
Weight: 18.7 kg
Length: 1.86 m
Diameter: 90 mm
Maximum intercept range: 6.5 km
Minimum intercept range: 500 m

FEATURES

MISTRAL ATAM ensures a large off-boresight capability, together with the ability to aim the missile seeker very precisely at a given target.

The missile has a shaped trajectory in order to intercept targets top-down or at long range, the crew can also select the proximity fuze mode.

MISTRAL ATAM is currently the only helicopter mounted air-to-air missile in full operational service.

Sir tel me if this helicopter is basically meant to conduct air battles.. ??
Will these missile destroy ground targets ?? Say a sitting helicopter ??
what is the use of a plateform which does not have its main armament..

 

[arkos]

In such a case why did the Army not ask for integration of LAHAT ATGM's helicopter launched variant??
The air launched version has a range of 8-13 km and would have served as a stopgap measure till the integration of Helina ATGM.

Because DRDO blocked it since Helina was being developed. HAL can offer whatever they want but DRDO will always have the last say.

 

[vishnugupt]

HAL’s LCH continues to remain ” Toothless” but things might change

In 2017, Then Indian army chief General Bipin Rawat had said Indigenous Attack/combat helicopters HAL Rudra and HAL Light Combat Helicopter have major shortcomings, that is in their current configuration both do not have suitable anti-tank guided missile (ATGM), which is the main weapon of any Attack/Combat helicopters around the world. Fast forward to 2020 and nothing much has changed since then as HAL Rudra MkIV and LCH Helicopters continue to be armed only with French Nexter 20mm turret gun and Belgian 70 mm rockets and waits for ATGM to be used as effective anti-armor, anti-bunker and anti-fortification role for the Strike Corps. DRDO developed Helina and SANT anti-tank guided missile system was supposed to provide lethal aerial firepower against the armored thrust of the rivals but DRDO has not been able to clear this trial phase of this missiles and enter production. DRDO officials have claimed both the missiles are ready for production and have cleared all trials but there seem to be some bottleneck issues with the production of the missile which is yet to resolve. Army already has 60 HAL Rudra MkIV and the chorus has been growing to induct HAL developed LCH also and it seems, Army will clear that proposal to induct 10 LCH and 5 for Air force soon, but both Helicopters will continue to come without any decent ATGM integrated into them. Army has been proposing the integration of American AGM-114 Hellfire air-to-surface missile (ASM) and buys interim stock for both HAL Rudra and LCH fleet but it has some opposition from DRDO which claims its Army which is delaying ordering locally developed Helina and SANT anti-tank guided missile system over imported ATGM. Army also has been offered helo-launched Spike ER and the MBDA PARS L3 anti-tank guided missile from other foreign vendors but turf war is yet to be resolved between Army and DRDO due to which one of the main weapon systems for Gunship Helicopters are still missing but sources close to idrw.org has confirmed that talks are underway to keep both Army and DRDO happy and a deal to arm this gunships with ATGM will be cleared by end of this year.

HAL’s LCH continues to remain ” Toothless” but things might change – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

IDRW write a full article for my post.

Is it an obsession ?? Because HAL has offered Spike and MBDA PARS missile integration as an interim measure until Helina became matured the same as mistral 2 or many other projects but no Answer from IAF
Only IAF can give such a bizarre excuse where a primary project has put on hold because the secondary or tertiary project is running in delay.

 

[patriots]

Sir tel me if this helicopter is basically meant to conduct air battles.. ??
Will these missile destroy ground targets ?? Say a sitting helicopter ??
what is the use of a plateform which does not have its main armament..

Sir with due respect .. helicopters bare never meant for air battle
Helicopter s are for ground attack or for ground support,
So either drdo should develop an atgm,or hal should integrate any other imported atgm
There is no point to have attack helicopters without atgm ...............

 

[patriots]

IDRW write a full article for my post.

Also from my twitter post.........

 

[Sridhar_TN]

Just in. IA wants the rudra and lch to be inducted with Hellfires.
DRDO says SAINT clearers for production with all trials over.
So far RAFAEL and MBDA has offered their respective ATGMS.

 

[Emperor Kalki]

Just in. IA wants the rudra and lch to be inducted with Hellfires.
DRDO says SAINT clearers for production with all trials over.
So far RAFAEL and MBDA has offered their respective ATGMS.

 

[patriots]

Just in. IA wants the rudra and lch to be inducted with Hellfires.
DRDO says SAINT clearers for production with all trials over.
So far RAFAEL and MBDA has offered their respective ATGMS.

Rudra already inducted.......
Bdw source for the same

 

[WolfPack86]

Why no LCH order & DRDO Nag family (HeliNa, SANT, MP-ATGM)

 

[WolfPack86]

LCH, Light Combat Helicopter Latest news, ATGM Helina or American Hellfire who will win the match?

 

[Bleh]

 

[vishnugupt]

Some Questions for experts/gurus?
1) What is the payload difference of LCH has when it operates in plains like Rajasthan and Leh, Siachen? (maximum it can carry)
2) Multiple news claim that Electronic warfare suite has been tested on LCH but can't spot anything on prototypes so could somebody point out where has it been fitted ??
3) Is there any scope to install an improved version Ardiden 3 ( or any other ) into LCH in order to improve payload?? Like 6 ATGM and 2 Rocket pods configuration.
4) Have Extra armor protection plates applied in LCH?? If yes, then how much weight penalty they have added to LCH?? Because if compare LCH and Rudra both have similar weapons payload but Rudra can carry at least 8 troops as well so LCH have very low payload compare to Rudra

 

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[FalconZero]

Last time I heard, first contract for 15 of LCH is almost ready to be signed, rest on the way after that. HAL has stated that it has already worked/completed 8 of these. Considering dhruvastra/helina have been successfully tested isn't it the best time to start procuring them?