Getting Indian economy back on track

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But today's pessimism is as exaggerated as yesterday's optimism was overblown.
A simple question for Mr Throor, was the government complaining about the then exaggerated optimism?

Did the government point out that even Sub-Saharan Africa and countries like Pakistan were also growing handsomely when the government was all elated about 9% growth rates.

Anyways, it is not Throor that one can fault for the cover ups, but a similar act by Kaushik Basu is more alarming, given the profile he holds and when in April he had committed that in the next 6 months some important reforms will happen. We are already 2 months down since.

For once please call Mamta's bluff, and let the Singh roar like he did during the Indo-US civil nuke deal by calling letf's bluff. That is the Singh we know, and that is the MMS we like.
 

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I actually agree with Tharoor. The doom and gloom sentiment has I go. India has grown over the years without any reform post 91. Nothing has changed as far as policy and policy makers go. Let's just go out and work hard.

We were always a domestic consumption economy. Work harder, earn more, consume more and let the economy grow. I bye this lousy thanda market syndrome. I am in coimbatore and asking people how business is going to my customers and others I meet, I get standard reply, market thanda hai. It's not entirely accurate is what I feel as the same people have pretty good sales and also leading an extravagant lifestyle.

Know what, I was pretty pessimistic about my own business growth for the year. But touch wood and thank God, I think I will grow from last financial year looking at my first quarter this year which still has 12 days to go.

I hate this negative sentiments. Feels its more political negative sentiment that is killing the business sentiment. Everyone wants to actually see business going down so that they can blame the governement and so that the govt can be thrown out. But we are only hurting ourselves by doing this.

Bloody hell I have a lot of expenses lined up for this year and I cannot afford to have a lean year :D well some expenses have already been made namely admission of my son to school.
 

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THere is no doubt that there is a political freeze after the scams started tumbling out one by one. That was expected.

But now, there is no more time to say reforms will happen in the next few months. They need to happen now. And its certainly foolish to hope that GDP growth falls just so that Congress is in power. Every year of lost growth adds up to the years we are behind China and India's overall economic power.

Its pretty much imperative that India maintains a 7% growth rate for the next 2-3 decades so that we become . That should give a reasonable doubling of GDP every 10 years and a 10 trillion+ economy by 2035. With Finance ministry now returning to MMS, I would also hope that we see the Singh of the Indo-US nuke deal and bulldoze some reforms through to not just raise the sentiment but actually bring the Indian economy into the next decade.
 

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Fitch cuts outlook on 8 Indian banks to negative

Mumbai, June 20:

Fitch Ratings today revised the outlook on India's financial institutions to 'negative' from 'stable', while affirming the rating.

These include six government banks — State Bank of India, Punjab National Bank, Bank of Baroda, Canara Bank, Export-Import Bank of India, and a foreign subsidiary of Bank of Baroda (New Zealand). The revision includes two leading private sector lenders — ICICI Bank and Axis Bank.

Also, the agency revised its outlook on wholly-owned government institution Housing and Urban Development Corporation Ltd, infrastructure finance company Infrastructure Development Finance Company Ltd and Indian Railway Finance Corporation Ltd.

"The outlook (from 'BBB-' to 'negative') revision of the financial institutions reflects their close linkages with the sovereign by virtue of their high exposure to domestic counterparties and holdings of domestic sovereign debt," the report said.

The BSE Bankex was trading up 0.38 per cent at 2.30 p.m.
Business Line : Industry & Economy / Economy : Fitch cuts outlook on 8 Indian banks to 'negative'
 

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S&P, India Inc overdoing gloom on economy? - The Economic Times

T T Ram Mohan, Professor, IIM-Ahmedabad

So you think India is doing badly? Sample this:

China's growth rate in the second quarter of the year is expected to dip below 7%. India's growth rate has tended to be, in general, two to three percentage points below that of China. If India were to grow at 5% in the second quarter, that should not be a great shock.

Brazil, another of the BRIC economies, grew by just 2.7% in 2011, down from 7.5% in 2010. The IMF projects growth in 2012 at 3%.

Among the BRIC nations, Russia alone is poised to maintain its growth rate in 2012 but that is because Russia has been growing in the past two years at a relatively slower 4%.

You can't say that China's growth has slumped because of 'policy paralysis'. China does not face the difficulties that a democracy does. To get a better clue to the slump, just see when was the last time that its growth rate fell below 7%. China's growth was 6.6% in the first quarter of 2009, which was the worst time in the sub-prime crisis, following the collapse of Lehman Brothers.

The ongoing eurozone crisis is similar in intensity and in the risk-aversion it has created in the markets. It must explain why China's growth has decelerated so acutely and also India's. It tells us that it is global factors that are primarily responsible for India's economy running into rough weather not coalition politics, lack of leadership, corruption, assembly elections or any of the things we have been hearing about.

Unfortunately, it's not just commentators who don't get it but rating agencies and a section of the business community. What the latter think does matter. Rating agencies impact the flow of capital into the country and the costs of borrowing. Animal spirits are everything in an economy and businessmen's prophecies of doom tend to be self-fulfilling.

S&P warned recently that India faces a downgrade in its rating if it does not get its policy act together. It had changed the outlook from 'stable' to 'negative' in April. Now another rating agency, Fitch, has followed suit and the reasons it has cited are almost the same as those advanced by S&P.

S&P has sought to articulate its case for a potential downgrade in a report tiled, Will India be the first BRIC fallen angel? A credit downgrade reflects increased possibility of default on debt. Where a nation's debt is overwhelmingly in domestic currency, the chances of default are lower because government can easily inflate its way out of high debt. It is high external debt that is cause of concern. India's external debt to GDP ratio of 3.4% must be amongst the lowest in the world. Does S&P believe that, in the absence of reforms, the probability of India's defaulting on foreign debt will rise?

Even on total public debt (domestic and foreign), India does well in comparison with many other countries. We are among the few countries whose debt to GDP ratio has been falling in recent years as the trend in advanced economies has been for the ratio to rise.

If there is little chance of India defaulting on its foreign obligations in the coming months, why would we qualify for a downgrade? The answer is provided by the criteria S&P uses for arriving at a sovereign rating. The company's website gives an idea of the variables used: a political score, an economic score, an external score (which reflects its external liquidity and international investment position), a fiscal score and a monetary score.

It follows that even if India's external score does not worsen to a point where there is an increased probability of default, a downgrade is possible if there is a deterioration on other counts. The S&P report foresees precisely such a possibility but the case is not persuasive. The link between the various scores that S&P uses and a higher probability of default is not at all evident.

The report contends that if the economic situation gets worse, India may actually reverse some of the reforms undertaken so far! Yes, if there is a major external shock that causes a balance of payment (BoP) crisis, the government may be forced to resort to capital controls, which would be a step backward. But does anybody seriously believe that the government would raise tariff barriers to protect Indian industry? Or that it will force public sector banks to restructure loans of public sector enterprises the way they have done so for Air India? Or that we will return to the era of reduced interest rates for particular sectors?

Unfortunately, despite the blows to their credibility in the sub-prime crisis, the rating agencies' reports get a huge press. A section of the Indian business community seems to have got carried away and has joined in the current bout of government-bashing. Azim Premji claims that India is "working without a leader".

At the G-20 summit in Mexico this week, the prime minister gave a fitting riposte: he announced a contribution of $10 billion from India towards the IMF's eurozone fund. At a time when India's BoP is coming under strain, the PM's gesture was a ringing assertion of confidence in the nation's ability to surmount its current economic challenges.

It is possible that India Inc does not share the aam-admi orientation of the UPA government. It may well yearn for a government that would cut back social sector spending, slash subsidies drastically, water down the current position on land acquisition and environmental clearance. It is entitled to its preferences and is free to argue its case. But to create despondency and negativism about the economy is not responsible advocacy.
 

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Steps to boost economy on Monday

Expressing concern over signs of weakness in the Indian economy, Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee on Saturday said the government is set to announce certain measures on Monday to improve market conditions in consultations with the Reserve Bank.

He said the Department of Economic Affairs had consulted with RBI Governor D Subbarao about the measures to be taken in this regard.

"We will be able to take certain measures to be announced on Monday which will improve the market condition," Mr Mukherjee said.

"GDP is at 6.5. There is inflationary pressure, there is depreciation of rupee. There are no doubt signs of weakness in Indian economy," the Minister said, adding, "I am concerned but not depressed".

"When the world is in turmoil, then a large economy like India cannot stay immune," he told reporters.

Basic fundamentals are strong in Indian economy, the Minister said, adding that the period from January to June 2012 saw an inflow of FII money to the tune of $8 billion.

The FII inflow for the corresponding period in 2011 was negative, he said.

"This year FDI stood at 46 billion to 48 billion US dollars," Mr Mukherjee said, adding that this was possibly his last visit to the city as Finance Minister.

The Hindu : News / National : Steps to boost economy on Monday
 

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Nomura cuts India GDP growth forecast to 5.8 % for FY '13

Nomura cuts India GDP growth forecast to 5.8 % for FY '13

New Delhi, June 26 (PTI): Global financial services firm Nomura has sharply lowered India's growth forecast for this fiscal to 5.8 per cent, way below the government's projection, saying the country's monetary and fiscal policies are at loggerheads.

Nomura, which had earlier projected Indian economy to expand by 6.7 per cent, said India's "public policy continues to disappoint".

"With monetary and fiscal policies at loggerheads, we lower our growth projections...Given weaker initial conditions and limited scope for a major stimulus, we revise down our GDP growth forecast to 5.8 per cent for FY13..." it said in a report. It has also cut its India GDP forecast for 2013-14 to 6.6 per cent form the earlier 6.9 per cent.

The government is aiming at GDP growth rate of about 7.6 per cent this fiscal. India's economic growth rate slowed to 6.5 per cent in 2011-12 from 8.4 per cent in the previous two fiscals.

Amid GDP slowdown, rupee depreciation and warnings from rating agencies, market still harbour hope that that a new finance minister will redirect the economy towards reforms after the presidential election.

Nomura pointed out that in light of the government's failure to take steps to boost the supply side and rein-in its fiscal deficit, the Reserve Bank chose to keep policy rates unchanged in June, despite a sharp growth slowdown.

"Fiscal policies are boosting inflation, to which the RBI has responded by keeping interest rates at an elevated level, hurting growth, and in turn exacerbating the fiscal deficit," it said.

It revised upward its inflation forecast to 7.6 per cent for the current fiscal from earlier 7.1 per cent due to higher food prices and rupee depreciation.

On yesterday's announcements by RBI and government to attract more capital inflows, Nomura said, "unfortunately, these actions are another set of stop-gap measures.

The underlying issues of an elevated current account deficit and weak investment climate are still not being addressed, it said.

It pointed out that a hike in diesel prices or opening up limits on foreign direct investment are measures that the "economy requires", but these are not yet forthcoming.

Nomura further said that with tough economic reforms difficult to make ahead of general elections, the "window of opportunity for any difficult decisions is the next six to nine months".

The fiscal deficit projection for 2012-13 too has been revised upward at 5.8 per cent from 5.2 per cent by the financial services firm.

Government aims to bring down the fiscal deficit to 5.1 per cent in 2012-13 from 5.76 per cent in the previous fiscal.

Nomura cuts India GDP growth forecast to 5.8 % for FY '13
 

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Re: Nomura cuts India GDP growth forecast to 5.8 % for FY '13

The first quarter has gone by, the rate cuts never happened, industry (name it) continues to struggle, agri sector would have struggled with the way the weather was, so the first quarter is definitely not going past 6%, as a matter of fact anything over 6% would sound a miracle.

One can only hope we can at least keep it over 6% by the fiscal-end.
 

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india has the capability to grow at 9-10% for sure, i wonder why the congress government always seems like they are doing whatever they can to slow india down.
 

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Re: Nomura cuts India GDP growth forecast to 5.8 % for FY '13

I am quite pessimistic at this moment about the state of Indian economy, especially the growth projections that are being thrown around. There are two main areas of concern,

1. By all indications we are not going to have a normal monsoon.

2. Severe shortage of fuel for the existing and the upcoming power plants. Now with a deficient monsoon, even the hydro power plants will not churn out on full capacity. Even with sops rom the Govt. how will the Indian industry operate in a power deficit state?
 

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'India Inc's Q1 revenue growth to hit 6-quater low'

MUMBAI: India Inc is expected to see a sharp slowdown in revenue growth during the current quarter, growing at 14%, the slowest in the last six quarters, compared to 17.5% during April-June 2011. The main reasons for the slowdown are the moderation in demand during the current quarter, the general slowdown in the economic activity and also in gross fixed investments, a report by Crisil Research noted.

"EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization) margins are projected to decline by 100-150 basis points (bps) on a year-on-year basis to around 19-20%, but remain flat compared to Jan-Mar 2012 (Q4 FY12)," the report pointed out.

The revenue outlook for the full year 2012-13 (FY13) is also not so good as there are indications that it would grow at a pace slower than what was witnessed in FY12, that is lower than 16.7%, unless investments pick up. On the margin front, however, export-driven sectors like pharmaceuticals and IT companies would see some margin expansion, along with the telecom sector, which is purely domestic market focused.

Crisil Research also noted that there is a sharp deceleration in investment cycle, as investments in fixed assets are currently at the lowest level in the last five years. "At about 13%, growth in capex is the lowest in the last five years, reflecting investment slowdown. Deceleration in investment has lowered depreciation charges to a 10-year low," the report pointed out. Crisil analysts also are not expecting the investment cycle to pick up soon because of three reasons. These are the current economic uncertainty and the flux in the Eurozone, continued policy logjam, delays in approvals and clearances, land acquisition related issues etc, and some likely delay in moderation of interest rates due to high fiscal deficit and inflation.

India Inc's interest coverage, the ratio of EBIDTA to interest expenses, is also at the lowest level in the last three years, because of high interest rates and margin pressures.

"Financial stress in visible in textiles, shipping, real estate, airlines, telecom infrastructure, secondary steel producers," Crisil Research noted. "Rising defaults and NPAs/restructured assets corroborate the stress," it noted.

‘India Inc’s Q1 revenue growth to hit 6-quater low’ - The Times of India
 

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GDP growth may have fallen to 4.9% in Q1

MUMBAI: India's GDP growth rate may have fallen to as low as 4.9% on an annual basis during the first quarter of the current fiscal, thanks to the policy slowdown, low business confidence leading to muted investments and weak exports amid a weak global economic scenario. Although various government agencies are still projecting an annual growth rate of much above 6% for the current fiscal, the poor monsoon could remain the primary reason for the country's growth to slowdown to sub-6% rate, economists said.

Data available on Bloomberg showed that of the 34 economists and analysts who have come out with their projections for the first quarter GDP growth, the range is between 4.9% and 6%, with the average growth forecast at 5.3%. Kushal Sampat of Dun & Bradstreet has a forecast of 6% while Rupa S Nisture of Bank of Baroda and Garima Kapoor of Aviva Life Insurance have both forecast 4.9% growth during the April-June period.

Among the leading economists, Indranil Sen Gupta has forecast 5.4% growth during Q1, while Rajeev Malik of CLSA, Siddhartha Sanyal of Barclays and Abheek Barua of HDFC Bank have each put it at 5.3%, and Robert Prior-Wandesforde has put it at 5.8%. The government is scheduled to announce the Q1 GDP growth numbers on Friday.

"India has been in the midst of a slow grind down in growth momentum for the last year. In recent months, the pace of the slowdown has accelerated, triggered by a host of supply-related shocks and a widespread drop in consumer and business confidence," said Barclays India in a recent note. "These shocks have come in the form of industrial disputes, weather disruptions, slack in global demand and ongoing policy inaction. High rates of inflation in a host of goods & services have also caused purchasing power to recede, which has been a systemic drag on growth. The mix of these factors makes us increasingly concerned about growth in the near to medium term," Sidhhartha Sanyal and Rahul Bajoria of Barclays wrote. The banking major recently cut its FY13 growth forecast to 5.8% from 6.7% projected two months ago.

GDP growth may have fallen to 4.9% in Q1 - TOI Mobile | The Times of India Mobile Site
 

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Re: GDP growth may have fallen to 4.9% in Q1

even a 5.3 or 5.8 growth will b huge in terms of money it will b around 70 to 90 billion $.
 

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Its still better than China...
 

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Re: GDP growth may have fallen to 4.9% in Q1

First Quarter Review of monetary policy!
 

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[pdf]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100671923/Projects%20Monitor%20__%20First%20Quarter%20Review%20Of%20Monetary%20Pplicy%20Policy%20rates%20stay%20put.pdf[/pdf]
 
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