FOREIGN POLICY: New, Strong and Clear Outreach

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Is Chahabar port still under our control??or did Iran give it to china??
Very much in our country. The sad part is, China has made 5 ports in all this time that we haven't made 1. The INSTC has gone live already and Bandar Abbas remains the connecting port rather than Chabahar as we had planned.

Iran being Iran, it will make sure that they remain in control. China may have had a gala time with Sri Lanka and the Pakistanis but Iran doesn't trust anyone. That's how it rolls.
 

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Very much in our country. The sad part is, China has made 5 ports in all this time that we haven't made 1. The INSTC has gone live already and Bandar Abbas remains the connecting port rather than Chabahar as we had planned.

Iran being Iran, it will make sure that they remain in control. China may have had a gala time with Sri Lanka and the Pakistanis but Iran doesn't trust anyone. That's how it rolls.
that's what I2U2 is for. India don't need to keep making new ports because of the naval proximity to gulf.
china needs new ports because they are far away from their mainland.
 

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that's what I2U2 is for. India don't need to keep making new ports because of the naval proximity to gulf.
china needs new ports because they are far away from their mainland.
Yes India may not need that port but Iranian needs it.
You signed the contract to build that for them but failed to deliver in time.
What that will tell Iranians?
 

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perhaps an admission for the first time from a sitting minister of GoI that pervious govts kept the indo-israeli relations on a slow burner because of domestic vote bank politics.
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'To be the Foreign Minister of Modi govt is a great strength', says Dr S. Jaishankar

 

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what say boys, will we see a photo of modi and pak pm shaking hands with a smile or not, at SCO?
Na sir, I don't think so but mudi is unpredictable , he might just do it
80 -20 chances are there
 

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that's what I2U2 is for. India don't need to keep making new ports because of the naval proximity to gulf.
china needs new ports because they are far away from their mainland.
If we have to be a responsible power, we have to put ourselves in the other country's shoes and think. Imagine if USSR had failed to help us with Bhilai steel plant, or the ISRO rocket motors, or the nuke submarine tech... would we have seen them as a reliable partner back in those days?

Would the UK trust the US all these years if they didn't back then and get things done?

Here Iran is giving us all possible clearances to get 1 project done and we are unable to deliver. That's only negatively affecting our image as a future economic power. We want to be an economic pole; but we don't behave like one.
 

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Na sir, I don't think so but mudi is unpredictable , he might just do it
80 -20 chances are there
He didn't even meet the founder of SCO, aka Chinese President. Come on, stop being so harsh on him. Most Indians have outsourced their personal safety to Modi and expect him to be like the Black Panther of Wakanda - present everywhere with the power of a superhero-plus-king.
 

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He didn't even meet the founder of SCO, aka Chinese President. Come on, stop being so harsh on him. Most Indians have outsourced their personal safety to Modi and expect him to be like the Black Panther of Wakanda - present everywhere with the power of a superhero-plus-king.
What is Wakanda ?
Is it another insurgency movement in sahel Africa?
 

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What is Wakanda ?
Is it another insurgency movement in sahel Africa?
OFFTOPIC: Wakanda is a fictional hi-tech futuristic African country in the Marvel comics world. Their king T'chala is also a superhero who wears an alien-metal (vibranium) armour + has superpowers to protect the country's resources. In the comic world, it's the most advanced country on the planet, but is secretive.

ON TOPIC: The point is, Indians want the security of Israel, the speed of China, the effectiveness of Singapore, the modernization of Japan and the innovation of Norway all in one, but won't want a King who can get things done with unlimited powers.
 

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OFFTOPIC: Wakanda is a fictional hi-tech futuristic African country in the Marvel comics world. Their king T'chala is also a superhero who wears an alien-metal (vibranium) armour + has superpowers to protect the country's resources. In the comic world, it's the most advanced country on the planet, but is secretive.

ON TOPIC: The point is, Indians want the security of Israel, the speed of China, the effectiveness of Singapore, the modernization of Japan and the innovation of Norway all in one, but won't want a King who can get things done with unlimited powers.
I want india to ve india
We are a jolly elephant
 

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If we have to be a responsible power, we have to put ourselves in the other country's shoes and think. Imagine if USSR had failed to help us with Bhilai steel plant, or the ISRO rocket motors, or the nuke submarine tech... would we have seen them as a reliable partner back in those days?

Would the UK trust the US all these years if they didn't back then and get things done?

Here Iran is giving us all possible clearances to get 1 project done and we are unable to deliver. That's only negatively affecting our image as a future economic power. We want to be an economic pole; but we don't behave like one.
"Non-alignment" paralysis? Instead of pushing in both directions a case of being pulled in both directions?
 

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If we have to be a responsible power, we have to put ourselves in the other country's shoes and think. Imagine if USSR had failed to help us with Bhilai steel plant, or the ISRO rocket motors, or the nuke submarine tech... would we have seen them as a reliable partner back in those days?

Would the UK trust the US all these years if they didn't back then and get things done?

Here Iran is giving us all possible clearances to get 1 project done and we are unable to deliver. That's only negatively affecting our image as a future economic power. We want to be an economic pole; but we don't behave like one.
Iran was under UN sanctions. under sanctions, the number of companies who are willing to take the risk to work in Iran are less. creating workarounds to shield companies takes time.

and then there is the case of Modi Govt trying to revive relations with U.S during the same period, Iran was a big deal to U.S before trump. Trump even killed one of their generals, Iran retaliated with a ballistic missile strike on a U.S air base in Iraq.
 
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