It was in the past, as in they considered their pre-Christian ancestors to be filthy degenerates( which is sorta true but not entirely ) because of being pagan.Foinikas is a Greek Christian AFAIK, not a Paki Greek. Or perhaps this is someone else using the same name as the original Foinikas, can't say.
The Greek scenario is pretty much like Pakistanis when it comes to its own identity. Today, Greek Orthodox are hardcore Christians who DESPISE their pagan roots. They are ashamed of it and the Orthodox Church endorses this past shame.
They are not proud of their past the way they pretend to be just for promoting tourism. To them, the temple of Athena or the Sword of Heracles or the Parthenon is nothing other than "past architectural skills". It makes sense considering that they were the first Europeans to convert to Christianity (Armenians and Georgians were classified as Asian back then).
There is a tiny population of Hellenic revivalist followers, but they are looked down upon just like how Pakistani Muslims look down upon Dharmic community. The non-Abrahamic peoples still alive remind them daily of the blunders they made.
Ummah-chummah alag hai, Business is businessPakistan News: A Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) Boeing 777 plane was seized by Malaysia at the Kuala Lumpur Airport over non-payment of dues, according to reptimesofindia.indiatimes.com
Rise of India and implications for Pakistan and the Muslim world
Pakistani strength against India is a must
May 29, 2023
The rise of China has forced the West to devise strategies to retain world leadership, or at least be major players in the future. West feels that a democratic, capitalist and economically resurgent India is their natural ally in this struggle against communist China. Therefore, despite its massive human rights violations, the West continues to support India. A strong India not only helps in containment of China but also possible de-nuclearization of Pakistan, the only Muslim nuclear country, through its balkanization. Therefore, the West and its allies are fully supporting India to become an economic and military regional power.
How would a strong India treat its neighbouring region, specially Pakistan, the Middle East and the Central Asian Republics (CARs)? India has the World’s third largest armed fForces. The bulk of these are deployed against Pakistan. None of India’s large mechanized forces can be used against China due to the Himalayas. Indian future behaviour can be predicted from its emerging military capabilities and past employment of its armed forces against its neighbours. India militarily invaded Kashmir in October 1947 and since then is in perpetual occupation against multiple UN resolutions. It militarily annexed Junagadh and Hyderabad (Deccan) in November 1947 and September 1948 respectively, followed by Goa in 1961.
Through employment of its armed forces it captured erstwhile East Pakistan in 1971 and annexed Sikkim in 1975. It intervened militarily in Sri Lanka from 1987-90 and in the Maldives in 1988. The rise of India and its track record of using military instruments to further its policies does not augur well for the regional countries. When Indians look at the Middle East and the CARs, they see oil-rich, sparsely populated and militarily weak countries. History has many examples where strong countries always found reasons to occupy or dominate economically prosperous, resource-rich but militarily weak neighbours. Indian interests in the region are not hidden. Th3n Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, while addressing senior military officers in 2004, said, “Our strategic footprint covers the region bounded by the Horn of Africa, West Asia (Middle East), CARs, Afghanistan and South Asia, and beyond to the far reaches of the Indian Ocean.”
Pakistan is the only hurdle to these aggressive Indian designs. Pakistan is like a dam, holding back a billion -plus Indians from coercing the /middle East and CARs into subjugation. Therefore, Indian strategic thinkers openly advocate balkanization of Pakistan into weak client states. Pakistan in future, will play the same role in the east for the Muslim world against India as Ottomans played in the west against Europe. See what happened to the Middle East and CARs once the Ottomans became weak and then collapsed. The CARs were occupied by Russia and the Middle East carved into multiple weak client states after World War I. The Western world has trampled and exploited the Middle East’s Muslim countries, at will since the demise of the Ottomans.
Nuclear Pakistan with a strong economy is a guarantor of sovereignty of Middle Eastern countries and the CARs. Unfortunately, there are certain people in and outside Pakistan, who in the name of religion (TTP), sub-nationalism or political gains are pursuing the agenda of substantially weakening or balkanization of the country. They are either deliberately or inadvertently advancing the Indian agenda. During World War I, Arabs revolted against Turkey in the name of regional sovereignty (Lawrence of Arabia may be remembered).
India has a very poor track record of dealing with its neighbours. The Indian rise as a powerful state is a fact and its associated implications for the region cannot be overlooked. Though China has also risen as a World power, it has to be understood that China’s strategic heartland is along the Pacific due to the location of the bulk of its population and major industrial areas.
Historically, China has never ventured militarily beyond its geographical boundaries. The Indian heartland, economic interests and long coast line makes it a southern and western Asia-centred country.
Nuclear Pakistan with a strong economy is a guarantor of sovereignty of Middle Eastern countries and the CARs. Unfortunately, there are certain people in and outside Pakistan, who in the name of religion (TTP), sub-nationalism or political gains are pursuing the agenda of substantially weakening or balkanization of the country. They are either deliberately or inadvertently advancing the Indian agenda. During World War I, Arabs revolted against Turkey in the name of regional sovereignty (Lawrence of Arabia may be remembered). Resultantly Muslim rulers (Turks) were replaced by European hegemony and Israeli humiliation was planted in their midst.
If ever the misguided groups working against Pakistan are successful, the whole region would go under Indian hegemony. Anti-Muslim policies of BJP and their quest for revenge from Muslim ‘invaders’ must be kept in mind. The Muslim world and the people of Pakistan must realise that only Pakistan can provide a counterbalance to future Indian designs in the region.
The rise of China has forced the West to devise strategies to retain world leadership, or at least be major players in the future. West feels that a democratic, capitalist and economically resurgent Iwww.pakistantoday.com.pk
What kind of a delusional fairyland do these retarded porkistanis live in to pen such fantasies shamelessly on the interet???
The author before writing this "article" to get his creative juices flowingGreat geo political analysis. Path breaking.
I have left the below comment, hope it passes moderation -
Masha Allah Pakistan one day will have a vary nuclear bamb bigger than Indian vala pokhran bamb. Our bamb vary powarful travel long journey destroy terrorst. But india bomb stael technokagi.
All Muslim mulk should sappart pakistan so we prevent indian army capture saudi, qatar, kuwait and central aisa. Only pakistan stap army india with nucear bamb.
so saudi gulf qatar send money to pakistan economy. we also solve atta forex problem.
>muh emoshnalI meant to write on this phenomenon before but couldn't due to paucity of time. I've been following this guy Abrar on YT , off & on , for nearly 3 yrs now . He's a very affable , easy going character with screen presence & good enunciation . In other words somebody whom you'd definitely see & appreciate reflected in his content . Which brings me to the crux of the issue.
Ever since he began his journey in India around 1st Mar 2023 from Kochi ( he's been updating his plans on IG to boost his IG account as apparently contrary to the 1 million + subscribers on YT he's barely a few thousand on IG ~ 2-3,00,000 subs ) which in turn resulted in impromptu meetings along the way in just a few hours notice.
Up until Delhi most of those who came up to meet him at these meet ups sometimes scheduled barely an hour before or less were mostly Muslims & depending on the city or town he was traversing , the people meeting him would range from 10-12 to maybe 40-50 if not more. As mentioned before most of the people who thronged these meet ups were Miyabhais ( I'd say some 70-80% ) including some who travelled 100s of kms to meet him ( in Delhi , there was a Miya from Odisha who came all the way to Delhi just to meet Abrar ).
From Delhi onwards the demographic profile of these meet ups change with 70-80% of those thronging these meet ups being Hindus & quite a number of Sikhs given he's a Punjabi Musalman from Nankana Sahib . This trend continues all the way up until the Attariwala border crossing including a homestay with a Sikh family in Punjab.
I was wondering if any Indian vlogger would get such a reception in Paxtan. To be fair Abrar has been in the game for more than 3 yrs & has built up a solid reputation & fan following as a result of his content which can truly be described as of a high pedigree.
All things being equal , I assume an Indian vlogger would attract similar attention in Paxtan only if he had such credentials as Abrar did & more importantly was a Miya Bhai from up North or maybe a Sikh . Otherwise I can't imagine such a fan following of an Indian in Paxtan.
OTOH , what does it say of our own people who go out of their way to welcome a total stranger & "a SM celebrity" certainly a new phenomenon . After all Abrar's no cricketer or singer or film star . Yet the fan following he enjoys in India is phenomenal. I'm betting 60-70% of his fan following of 1.3 million YT subscribers would be Indian especially Miyabhais which may have gone up phenomenally ever since his India tour which in turn brings me to the crux of the issue .
Long ago on PDF I got into one of the usual scuffles with Paxtanis there ( resulting in one of the many permabans) on a subject with an Indian Miyabhai member casting his lot with you know who . A Paxtani member ( agnostic , settled abroad & one of the few genuinely intelligent guys there with deep insight into his country's & his people's issues , the exception which proves the rule & you'd come across these exceptions from time to time ) remarked that we sub con folk are a very emotional lot , some more than the others.
While this statement registered it took me a long while to internalize it. This was made to me in response to my to & fro to the Indian Miyabhai member there who on the one hand rejected Paxtani members support to Indian Miyabhais criticising them in harsh terms for their opportunism during partition & later & on the other used to team up with them when it came to criticising / humiliating / mocking / abusing India ,Sanatan Dharma rituals customs , traditions & practises , Hindutva , poltics in general , etc .
I had a bit of an epiphany when I looked at the kind of fandom & adulation Abrar attracted especially from Miyabhais on his journey here . I doubt if a Paxtani Sikh or Hindu would get the same kind of reception from Indian Miyabhais assuming he had the same credentials as Abrar.
This irrational like & dislike along with the Paxtani member's observation that we sub con folk are a very emotional lot with some among us being more emotional than the rest reminded me why a demand for partition which had no base in rationalism but purely on emotive grounds succeeded in India before it gained ground in what's now Paxtan & BD. Do remember the central theme was claiming Muslim majority areas for a separate country with transfer of populations being an absolute no no .
How does it explain the kind of popularity Jinnah & the ML received vide support thru the General Elections to the Central Legislative Assembly in 1945 & the provincial elections in 1946 in what's now mainland India itself , which was seen & still is by historians cutting across the ideological divide as a vote for Paxtan , which was detrimental to the interests of Miyabhais in mainland India ? Incidentally M A Jinnah won from Byculla in North Central Bombay which returned Waris Pathan the first MIM to the legislature in Maharashtra a century later in 2014 .
The same mentality brought them out in droves during the anti CAA agitation ( which one observer perceptively noted as Momins being granted the veto in 1947 on whom they could reside with & in 2020 on who'd be allowed to be taken in as citizens. In other words , a fixed deposit in Pakistan & BD & a Joint Account in India . ) & the sar tan se judaa episodes across the country. It's this very same mentality that JSD warned about when he declared we're at the very same juncture in history we were at exactly a century ago ( 1919 onwards Khilafat agitation , 2019-20 onwards anti CAA agitation ) .
Another but more painful part of the entire equation are the Sikhs . They were mortal enemies of the Miyabhais in 1947 all across the nation , even more than us Hindus , especially for what they did to them in Eastern Punjab ( our part of Punjab , which had a population of Muslims as high as 45% at the time of partition as compared to the 15-20% of H&S in what was then western Punjab or what's now Paxtani Punjab).
Today not only does a considerable (but not majority ) section of them want a separate state but are seeking common cause with their own "erstwhile mortal enemies." Next to the Miyabhais in support of Abrar the single most prominent group were the Sikhi. Isn't their demand for a separate state another irrational idea like the Paxtan movement , linked also to their excising their historical & religious links with Sanatan Dharma to proclaim their Waqri qaum status ? I mean if you go thru the history of Kashmir you'd see they've more of a case for seeking an independent state than the Sikhs in India irrespective of whether we acknowledge their demands or concede the bonafide of their case.
To sum up my rant , all those here advocating a Hindu Rashtra , pls be informed you'd never be able to achieve even a percentage of it in overt form as long as Paxtan & BD exists. Into this mix in jumped China . Hence given the way the geo economics & geopolitics of the region has evolved upto the present day , we'd have to tackle China before the more existential threats we face with Paxtan & BD before we focus our attention at home .
The entire equation for a Hindu Rashtra comprises defeat of China ( don't know how this can be achieved or even a stalemate given their preparations vs ours ) before annihilation of Paxtan followed by BD . It's only after that we can take up Project Hindu Rashtra . To all those belonging to the Maulana Modi brigade who're effectively the 6 blind men of Hindostan , pls note .
Religion is an emotive quality unlike rationalism , even if both describe the state of one's mind or nature or even character , however you choose to frame your argument .>muh emoshnal
No, they are religious fanatic zombies, that is why they behaved the way they did in the run-up to partition, the reason they behave that way now.
The partition was a religious demand based on projecting their behaviors viz "what to do with the kuffar" upon the Hindu majority population, since they are cowards and didn't have the
numbersballs necessary to do a Ghazwa -e- Hind as their book dictates.
The Sikhs are also similar but their current state cannot be attributed to magic book + clerics but rather the Govt not "managing" them well, all govts of all parties preferred to make deals with the Khalistani merchants and Bhindi-worshippers instead of erasing them.
Hindu Rashtra can be done once GoI finds the balls to do the needful to the zombies along with civilian volunteers, all their sar tan se juda and azadi protests occur because they do not receive a strong iron fisted response, both from the state and civilians, the main Achilles heel of the green zombies here are that they are cowards, they are not berserker jihadis like the Afgandus.
As for China we have to throw in our lot with Uncle Sam, preferably once we've proved our mettle like Erdogandu of Turkey has so they stop conspiring with their regime change bullshit against Modi and sit at the table to negotiate with us, since we will not be going anywhere.
It's ideology my dude.Religion is an emotive quality unlike rationalism , even if both describe the state of one's mind or nature or even character , however you choose to frame your argument .
Rationalism isn't an ideology. It's a state of mind . Ideology is indoctrination which is emotive in nature like wokeism masquerading as a social justice movement aka a rationalist movement.It's ideology my dude.
Most Rationalism is also Leftie ideology in the end, modern "rationalists" will say there are over 9000 genders in keeping with the "times".
If you meant pragmatism then no tribes or individual is pragmatic at all times, in terms of zombies, it is their mazhub that overrides any pragmatic thoughts.
Meanwhile popat muhabbat:paki kidnaps a turk girl
turks are seething & cursing in comments
look how these dolts headline the video -
Pakistani Boy Ne 6th Class Ki Turkish Girl Se Shadi Kar Li - Mohabbat Kaisi Huwi?
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