F-35 Joint Strike Fighter

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Qatar will have nothing to say. And the relationship with France is now colder, because France decided to fight radical islam in our soil, mainly supported by Algeria, Turkey and... Qatar !
UAE is for 15 years one of the main targets for rafale sale.
Algeria... French should have divided that country instead of running away.
 

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Air Force Reduces Exhibition Flights on New F-35 Engine Woes
"The engines on A-model F-35s have been running “hot,” or close to the limits of their design, and that heat has caused premature cracks, or delamination, of turbine blade coatings. That’s required the engines to be removed or repaired earlier than anticipated, aggravating an already backlogged depot system. The cracks in the coating aren’t a flight safety issue, but they reduce an engine’s useful life, said a defense official."

18Tons thrust and already close to the limit.... what a pity !
 

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The Real F-35 Problem We Need to Solve
Unless its logistics can be improved, the jet’s contributions to a major fight will be far less than Pentagon wargamers are counting on.

When Pentagon strategists game out potential near-peer conflicts, they tend to plug in sortie-generation rates for the F-35 Lightning II that reflect the program’s original vision, not the far lower numbers that represent the actual state of things.
 

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"The study will include a “clean sheet design” for a new “four-and-a-half-gen or fifth-gen-minus” fighter to replace the F-16, Brown elaborated. Rather than simply buy new F-16s, he said, “I want to be able to build something new and different, that’s not the F 16 — that has some of those capabilities, but gets there faster and uses some of our digital approach.”

I thought the F-35 was the F-16 replacement? Not only the Pentagon but a General is shitting on the aircraft?
 

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"The study will include a “clean sheet design” for a new “four-and-a-half-gen or fifth-gen-minus” fighter to replace the F-16, Brown elaborated. Rather than simply buy new F-16s, he said, “I want to be able to build something new and different, that’s not the F 16 — that has some of those capabilities, but gets there faster and uses some of our digital approach.”

I thought the F-35 was the F-16 replacement? Not only the Pentagon but a General is shitting on the aircraft?
Strange.... Wasn't the F35 the F16 replacement bird? :pound::pound::pound:
 

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Strange.... Wasn't the F35 the F16 replacement bird? :pound::pound::pound:
Cost, while you are laughing at F-35, we Indians are laughing at the fact that Uncle Sam offered us F-21 (F-16 Ultra Pro Max) stating it as the best 4th gen available and it has features none other have and blah blah blah, maybe they’ll make a new semi stealth aircraft just like we are making called our TEDBF, as there is no point developing a new 4th gen fighter as the difference will be only internals but USA is still pursuing with it hence I feel it will be a cost effective semi stealth 4.75 Gen aircraft aimed to replace all old airframes.
 

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Is the F-35 Program at a Crossroads?


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In the case of the F-35, the developmental testing done to date has already revealed major shortcomings, but the most serious flaws emerged once the F-35 was in the hands of real operators in the field during operational testing.
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The latest annual report from the Pentagon’s Director, Operational Test & Evaluation (DOT&E) details how the failure to deliver a critical simulation facility has made it impossible to complete the initial operational tests required to make the full-rate production decision.
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And the program is nine years behind the original 2001 schedule. (nine years late in 20 years ! congrats LM).
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the latest report again found that when engineers fix one software problem they “often introduced stability problems and/or adversely affected other functionality.”
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Another significant shortcoming of the F-35 program is its vulnerability to hacking.
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The F-35 is a notoriously maintenance-intensive aircraft.
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the F-35 fleet as a whole failed to meet the 70% mission capable goal.
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Even given the years of experience maintenance crews have with the aircraft, DOT&E reports it took them longer to make repairs on the F-35 than it should have—sometimes more than twice as long.
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It costs approximately $44,000 per hour to fly the F-35.
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the Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS), the Pentagon finally threw in the towel in 2020 and will spend $550 million over the next 5 years to build an entirely new one.
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As far as that goes, the ODIN managers seem to be repeating the same mistakes the ALIS managers made. ALIS went through four separate versions in 2020 alone, including one urgent fix over the summer meant to correct a problem in an earlier patched version that generated 10 times the normal number of maintenance alarms.
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There can be little doubt that, after 20 years, the F-35 is a complete boondoggle. DOT&E warns that many of the F-35s that were delivered early on in the cycle are not combat-ready. It remains to be seen if these aircraft, which happen to be the most expensive ones, will ever serve a purpose beyond being demonstration trainers or spare parts repositories.
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It could signal that the F-35 program may about to face the same fate as several other once-marquee 21st century weapon programs like the Zumwalt-class destroyer, the F-22, and the Littoral Combat Ship. In other words, just like those disastrously failed programs, the F-35 may be dramatically reduced in scope due to a combination of technological failures and skyrocketing costs.

CONGRATS LM !!! a real masterpiece of shit.
 

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If nothing else, the USAF reconsideration of F-35 role and showing preference for a 4.5+ gen fighter vindicates beyond any doubt the assertion that 4.5 gen jets are here to stay for a long, long time.

The future of the world's fighter fleets will consist of:

> A relatively small number of stealthy 5th/6th gen jets
> Bulk of air force made up of 4.5 gen fighters that are relatively low cost and can keep up high sortie rates
> Loyal wingman type stealthy drones that can work alongside 4.5 gen jets to penetrate high threat environments for A2G missions
 

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The U.S. Air Force Just Admitted The F-35 Stealth Fighter Has Failed

 

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DARE ANYONE call any 4.5 gen jet a "4.5 gen jet" they are now renamed "5gen -(minus)" by usaf, probably because usa was obsessed with 5th gen aircraft till they realized they r too expensive too maintain and now for convenience they call 4.5 gen as "5gen-" to satisfy their urge of 5th gen fighters.(pun intended ,no offenses)
 

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The U.S. Air Force Just Admitted The F-35 Stealth Fighter Has Failed

I doubt now that USAF would trust LM,I'm sure Northrop grumman would be laughing at USAF for trusting LM for f22 and f35 and not YF-23.
Though f22 was good.
But now i think Northrop would win 6th gen NGAD program
 

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DARE ANYONE call any 4.5 gen jet a "4.5 gen jet" they are now renamed "5gen -(minus)" by usaf, probably because usa was obsessed with 5th gen aircraft till they realized they r too expensive too maintain and now for convenience they call 4.5 gen as "5gen-" to satisfy their urge of 5th gen fighters.(pun intended ,no offenses)
The military industrial complex is wasting money
Its hilarious
They already had f-22
Which can be MLU and and developed further like asking DAS and New Gen HMD into it
And increasing numbers
Of F-22.

F-35 program itself looks its Giant SCAM to me
1.7 trillion $
 

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The military industrial complex is wasting money
Its hilarious
They already had f-22
Which can be MLU and and developed further like asking DAS and New Gen HMD into it
And increasing numbers
Of F-22.

F-35 program itself looks its Giant SCAM to me
1.7 trillion $
actually f22 was not exportable so for export prospects they made f35 and kept adding technology to it but as u said if they ported the f35 like sensor suite and ew capability to f22 ,f22 would be the best,but then again americans would not like to loose in exports to russia or europe where su 57,rafales are exportable,HONESTLY speaking f35 is a good aircraft with only two shortcomings
1.major software issues causing unreliability
2.costly maintenance
 

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