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[Smoothbore125mm]

Business is booming

haha russia apenly sells rd33 to pakistan ,ukrain sells tanks and engine of cruise missile why should we refrain from getting some profits

 

[mist_consecutive]

haha russia apenly sells rd33 to pakistan ,ukrain sells tanks and engine of cruise missile why should we refrain from getting some profits

Not only RD-33, but Mi-35 (recently sold), spares & parts of of Mi-17s, IL-76, IL-78 refuellers as well. Probably more transactions we don't know of.

All the big economies cater to their business needs. No shame in that.

 

[Blademaster]

Not only RD-33, but Mi-35 (recently sold), spares & parts of of Mi-17s, IL-76, IL-78 refuellers as well. Probably more transactions we don't know of.

All the big economies cater to their business needs. No shame in that.

The point is that we want to be able to sell to Russia and the West won't allow that while the West is free to sell to anybody that it wishes to and damn the objections of others. We need to rise up and say fuck you and we will sell to whomever we wish to sell to.

 

[Love Charger]

Alas if only biharis had also settled in unclesamdesh.

Kek those Biharis were indentured laborers from the RAJ, the slot for USA was taken up by the blacks.

 

[vishnugupt]

Not only RD-33, but Mi-35 (recently sold), spares & parts of of Mi-17s, IL-76, IL-78 refuellers as well. Probably more transactions we don't know of.

All the big economies cater to their business needs. No shame in that.

There is difference between offensive weapons and non offensive weapons.

Russia is not objecting India's humanitarian help to Ukraine but Shells are not humanitarian aids.

India can sell Helicopter or spares part to Ukraine at some extent. Better avoid selling weapons altogether to Ukraine.

 

[AnantS]

There is difference between offensive weapons and non offensive weapons.

Russia is not objecting India's humanitarian help to Ukraine but Shells are not humanitarian aids.

India can sell Helicopter or spares part to Ukraine at some extent. Better avoid selling weapons altogether to Ukraine.

And India is not selling to Ukraine but it has no control if ammo bought by Germany, Britain or US is diverted by respective countries to ukraine

 

[vishnugupt]

And India is not selling to Ukraine but it has no control if ammo bought by Germany, Britain or US is diverted by respective countries to ukraine

Such logics do not work in real life so don't try unless you are a congressi or AAPtards.

 

[AnantS]

Such logics do not work in real life so don't try unless you are a congressi or AAPtards.

Sorry did not understand what you are implying here in this context. We are selling to west, who place such requests. Why would India say no to dollars? After they buy, its upto buyers what they do with amoo, unless India has stipulated end user agreement where they debar re export?

 

[mist_consecutive]

Such logics do not work in real life so don't try unless you are a congressi or AAPtards.

We don't have an end-user agreement with our buyers like USA, which dictates how & where their weapons can be used.

We haven't exported any weapons to Ukraine directly. But lets say, some friendly neutral country like UAE, Saudi Arabia (I think they recently placed large orders) buys these ammunition in bulk (because they are super cheap) and sells it to Ukraine at a margin or even at request of NATO there is nothing we can do.

 

[Azaad]

And India is not selling to Ukraine but it has no control if ammo bought by Germany, Britain or US is diverted by respective countries to ukraine

I don't think GoI factored in these countries would re export those shells to Ukraine , the reason being we may have exported small numbers in the past .

Further the way Europe was bringing down its defence budget pre Ukraine war , it would've been anticipated that low tech items like shells would've been cost effective imports compared to mass production in house resulting in them cutting down production capacities.

Hence the thought here would've been these European countries were probably rebuilding up stocks expended by diverting their inventories to Ukraine .

I think news that Indian shells were re exported to Ukraine by these countries wouldn't have gone down well in the GoI which must've re considered it's decision.

 

[vishnugupt]

Sorry did not understand what you are implying here in this context. We are selling to west, who place such requests. Why would India say no to dollars? After they buy, its upto buyers what they do with amoo, unless India has stipulated end user agreement where they debar re export?

We don't have an end-user agreement with our buyers like USA, which dictates how & where their weapons can be used.

We haven't exported any weapons to Ukraine directly. But lets say, some friendly neutral country like UAE, Saudi Arabia (I think they recently placed large orders) buys these ammunition in bulk (because they are super cheap) and sells it to Ukraine at a margin or even at request of NATO there is nothing we can do.

Are you guys sure India do not have end user aggreement?? Maybe not as stringent as America/Europe but there is always a end user aggreement for weapons.

By your logic what if ISIS got Indian weapons from second party and use it against civilians?? Our whole life will go waste to explain the world that we are innocent.

There is always end user aggreement in all defence deals.

 

[slayingheaven]

Are you guys sure India do not have end user aggreement?? Maybe not as stringent as America/Europe but there is always a end user aggreement for weapons.

By your logic what if ISIS got Indian weapons from second party and use it against civilians?? Our whole life will go waste to explain the world that we are innocent.

There is always end user aggreement in all defence deals.

GoI just pretend dumb like how Rossia pretended dumb selling weapons to Pakistan.

 

[vishnugupt]

GoI just pretend dumb like how Rossia pretended dumb selling weapons to Pakistan.

What weapons Russia sold to Pakistan?? Tell me precisely.

You people actually want India to behave like Pakistan where they sell them in few dollars and get bankrupt in return.

I think people now days are not listening Jayshankar carefully. "Taking extra care about Russian interest"

 

[slayingheaven]

What weapons Russia sold to Pakistan?? Tell me precisely.

You people actually want India to behave like Pakistan where they sell them in few dollars and get bankrupt in return.

I think people now days are not listening Jayshankar carefully. "Taking extra care about Russian interest"

Mi-17 Helicopters? Kornet-E(52-Systems+Missiles)?

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

What weapons Russia sold to Pakistan?? Tell me precisely.

You people actually want India to behave like Pakistan where they sell them in few dollars and get bankrupt in return.

I think people now days are not listening Jayshankar carefully. "Taking extra care about Russian interest"

their whole jk17 fleet is using rd33 engines supplied by russia

 

[vishnugupt]

Mi-17 Helicopters? Kornet-E(52-Systems+Missiles)?

Mi-17 is not a attack helicopter. 52 Kornet-E missiles only. This deal happened during peacetime.

Now you want India to supply shell to Ukraine which will directly cause Russian casualty.

Now ask UN generals how they are going to manage their inventories without Russia.

I mean one can try to sell weapons to Ukraine but I believe consequences will be far reaching.

 

[vishnugupt]

their whole jk17 fleet is using rd33 engines supplied by russia

JF-17 manufactured by China and they have aggreement before Pakistan come into picture.

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

JF-17 manufactured by China and they have aggreement before Pakistan come into picture.

ok then what bout 4 mi35 ,48 mi17 helis ,kornet ,small arms there was supposed to be a 15 more mi35 order which was scrapped due to invasion of ukraine

 

[vishnugupt]

ok then what bout 4 mi35 ,48 mi17 helis ,kornet ,small arms there was supposed to be a 15 more mi35 order which was scrapped due to invasion of ukraine

It's mean nothing.

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

It's mean nothing.

i mean that if ruskies are selling openly then we may sell ammo to ukraine too in limited amount