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[airstrike99]

We are lacking in overall artillery segment. Even our guns are not in numbers we want.

What you are saying is just increase in range rather then numbers. We need increment in both segments. DRDO is already working on Rocket artillery caliber increment. But when it comes to gun range increment, we have done nothing.

no one cares about gun range increment. its useless. we need rocket range increment. the effective kill radius is 50m for 155mm shell. pinaka and smerch are of 212mm but range of only 90km. the chinese have deployed 300mm caliber with 250km range. if you dont have the same amount, you cannot have standoff power. you will have to send air power or ground troops to flank them and then neutralise them without getting attacked by their air defenses and light tanks offense. instead you could spend just some 100 crores to have an entire truck of 300mm 250 - 300km range rocket artillery as a standoff weapon. much easier. just the cost of ~ 3 t90-s tanks

 

[Chinmoy]

no one cares about gun range increment. its useless. we need rocket range increment. the effective kill radius is 50m for 155mm shell. pinaka and smerch are of 212mm but range of only 90km. the chinese have deployed 300mm caliber with 250km range. if you dont have the same amount, you cannot have standoff power. you will have to send air power or ground troops to flank them and then neutralise them without getting attacked by their air defenses and light tanks offense. instead you could spend just some 100 crores to have an entire truck of 300mm 250 - 300km range rocket artillery as a standoff weapon. much easier. just the cost of ~ 3 t90-s tanks

Wow. Why I am getting a feeling of Deja Vu here?

No one cares about Gun range increment? Which gentleman in IA told you so?
If no one cares about increment in gun range, then why the FARP formulated in 1999 after Kargil, IA asked for more range in its future guns?
Why have the FH-77B which performed so well in Kargil seen a caliber increment in Dhanush?
Why ATAGS has seen further caliber increment then Dhanush?


If you want to talk about logic and all, we could talk more. But please don't bring whatever is in your mind with the tag that people in ground wants that.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

Though the Chinks claim that they have 250 km MLRS rockets, but it is basically a type of tactical BM similar to that of Prahaar, Pralay.
There is only a certain range which can be acheived by rockets of a given dimesion. For 300 mm class MBRL rocket that range is between 90-120 km. That is the maximum that even Russian's could acheive with Smerch.And China does not have any magic fuel which can increase the un-guided rocket's range. With guidance kit this range can increase slightly, but with increase costs.
Above that it is tactical BM like Prallay, Prahar etc.
India got this tactical range covered but we need these missiles in greater numbers.

 

[Chinmoy]

Though the Chinks claim that they have 250 km MLRS rockets, but it is basically a type of tactical BM similar to that of Prahaar, Pralay.
There is only a certain range which can be acheived by rockets of a given dimesion. For 300 mm class MBRL rocket that range is between 90-120 km. That is the maximum that even Russian's could acheive with Smerch. With guidance kit this range can increase slightly, but with increase costs.
Above that it is tactical BM like Prallay, Prahar etc.
India got this tactical range covered but we need these missiles in greater numbers.

And in our case, we need higher number of guns then MBRLs.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

In Chinese case, the 250 km/ 400 km range MLRS which they are bluffing about is actually a tactical BM (or Pralaay class) which can be launched from the same set up as a Smerch class MBRL set-up.

Similar to what Naval ships call Universal launcher.

The disadvantage with missile is that they are costly compared to un-guided rockets and can can only be produced in limited numbers.

 

[Chinmoy]

Soviet doctrine during ww2 focus upon massive tank assault backed heavy firepower from behind especially of long range rockets named katsuya
British strategy was to attack with help of air force and artillery. British focused more upon artillery.
So using long range rockets or artillery is totally based upon the doctrine.
Chinese military doctrine was inspired by Soviets.

Chinese have 7000 gun artillery against 1500 rocket artillery.

 

[Ayushraj]

Chinese have 7000 gun artillery against 1500 rocket artillery.

India
Artillery ratio to rocket artillery
4000:374
Chinese
7000:1500
So clearly you can see Chinese are more inspired by Soviet doctrine

 

[Deadtrap]

 

[Arihant Roy]

The Python 5 was successfully integrated with Tejas mk1 after a successful test launch from KH 2017, or LSP7 yesterday . This is a watershed moment for our Tejas .

 

[Karthi]

DRDO conducts maiden trial of Python-5 Air to Air Missile (AAM)

Tejas, India's indigenous Light Combat Aircraft, added the 5th generation Python-5 Air-to-Air Missile (AAM) in its air-to-air weapons capability yesterday, 27th April 2021. Trials were also aimed to validate enhanced capability of already integrated Derby Beyond Visual Range (BVR) AAM on Tejas. The test firing at Goa completed a series of missile trials to validate its performance under extremely challenging scenarios. Derby missile achieved direct hit on a high speed maneuvering aerial target and the Python missiles also achieved 100% hits, thereby validating their complete capability. The trials met all their planned objectives.

Prior to these trials, extensive missile carriage flight tests were conducted at Bengaluru to assess integration of the missile with aircraft systems on board the Tejas, like Avionics, Fire-control radar, Missile Weapon Delivery System and the Flight Control System. At Goa, after successful separation trials, live launch of the missile on a Banshee target was carried out. Python-5 missile live firing was conducted to validate target engagement from all aspects as well as beyond visual ranges. In all the live firings, missile hit the aerial target. The missiles were fired from Tejas aircraft of Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) flown by Indian Air Force (IAF) Test pilots belonging to National Flight Test Centre (NFTC). The successful conduct was made possible with years of hard work by the team of scientists, engineers and technicians from ADA and HAL-ARDC along with admirable support from CEMILAC, DG-AQA, IAF PMT, NPO (LCA Navy) and INS HANSA.

Hon’ble Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh congratulated the teams of DRDO, ADA, Indian Air Force, HAL and all involved in the trial.

Secretary DD R&D and Chairman DRDO, Dr G Satheesh Reddy appreciated the efforts of scientists, engineers and technicians from various organisations and industry.

 

[Vamsi]

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DRDO conducts maiden trial of Python-5 Air to Air Missile (AAM)

Tejas, India's indigenous Light Combat Aircraft, added the 5th generation Python-5 Air-to-Air Missile (AAM) in its air-to-air weapons capability yesterday, 27th April 2021. Trials were also aimed to validate enhanced capability of already integrated Derby Beyond Visual Range (BVR) AAM on Tejas. The test firing at Goa completed a series of missile trials to validate its performance under extremely challenging scenarios. Derby missile achieved direct hit on a high speed maneuvering aerial target and the Python missiles also achieved 100% hits, thereby validating their complete capability. The trials met all their planned objectives.

Prior to these trials, extensive missile carriage flight tests were conducted at Bengaluru to assess integration of the missile with aircraft systems on board the Tejas, like Avionics, Fire-control radar, Missile Weapon Delivery System and the Flight Control System. At Goa, after successful separation trials, live launch of the missile on a Banshee target was carried out. Python-5 missile live firing was conducted to validate target engagement from all aspects as well as beyond visual ranges. In all the live firings, missile hit the aerial target. The missiles were fired from Tejas aircraft of Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) flown by Indian Air Force (IAF) Test pilots belonging to National Flight Test Centre (NFTC). The successful conduct was made possible with years of hard work by the team of scientists, engineers and technicians from ADA and HAL-ARDC along with admirable support from CEMILAC, DG-AQA, IAF PMT, NPO (LCA Navy) and INS HANSA.

Hon’ble Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh congratulated the teams of DRDO, ADA, Indian Air Force, HAL and all involved in the trial.

Secretary DD R&D and Chairman DRDO, Dr G Satheesh Reddy appreciated the efforts of scientists, engineers and technicians from various organisations and industry.

When will they test fire Astra

 

[AMCA]

Python 5 + Dash-4 Helmet Mounted Display and Cueing system will make a deadly combo.

 

[fire starter]

Python 5 + Dash-4 HMDS will make a deadly combo.

Meanwhile junk fighter fans who were jumping yesterday.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Soon.

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The 19th edition oftheIndian and French Navy bilateral exercise ‘VARUNA-2021’ concluded on 27th April 2021.

Exercise VARUNA has been a key enabler in building interoperability and strengthening the coordination between the two navies. This exercise has matured over the years with increase in scope, complexity of operations and level of participation. Conducted from 25-27 Apr 2021 in the Arabian Sea, the exercise witnessed high tempo-naval operations at sea, including advanced air defence and anti-submarine exercises, intense fixed and rotary wing flying operations including cross deck helicopter landings, tactical manoeuvres, surface and anti-air weapon firings, underway replenishment and other maritime security operations. Units of both navies honed and enhanced their war-fighting skills to demonstrate their ability as an integrated force to promote peace, security and stability in the maritime domain.

The common understanding of the two navies in executing maritime operations was evident right from the start of the exercise wherein the entire planning was carried out through virtual meeting and the exercises were conducted completely in the non-contact format.

The seamless coordination, precise execution of manoeuvres, and accuracy in complex exercises characterized the conduct of Varuna-2021 and has helped further strengthen mutual confidence, inter-operability and sharing of best practices between both Navies.

Indian Navy’s guided missile frigate Tarkash will continue to exercise with the French Navy’s Carrier Strike Group (CSG) from 28th April to 1st May 2021 participating in advanced surface, anti-submarine and air-defence operations with the French CSG.

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Tom hanood aor french ,jinpe nabi ke aziz tariq bin ziyaad jo , khilafat e Umayyad se talukh rakhte the ne humla keya tha, tom dono bohot ud rahe ho.
Inshallah parwardigar , humare satth ha , tom aaksijen ke kami se maroge , hume nabi saleh allahislam ki neymat hasl ha , kyuki hum bas cycle me hawa bharne wali machine se aaksijen bana lenge , ha ha ro indians ro.


Sadela suwar , chief medical doctor , sadr aspatal , lawhorr ( ma yaah armee aspatal , GHQ Rawalpindi se deputation pe ayya ho)

 

[AMCA]

Meanwhile junk fighter fans who were jumping yesterday.
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They were yesterday saying that blk3 is better than Rafale after that image of blk3 with HMDS and Pl10 missile was leaked on internet.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

They were yesterday saying that blk3 is better than Rafale after that image of blk3 with HMDS and Pl10 missile was leaked on internet.

Any block of jf 17 bandar is and will be inferior to Rafael for next many decaDes.
Just adopting the naming convention of f 16 , won't make the bandar f 16.

 

[Ayushraj]

Any block of jf 17 bandar is and will be inferior to Rafael for next many decaDes.
Just adopting the naming convention of f 16 , won't make the bandar f 16.

Paf will use jf17 bander as cannon fodder.
So they are inducting it in large numbers 200+.
Sukhoi and rafale will waste their aam missile on these cheap jf17.
They are ready to loose 2-3 jf17 for single sukhoi or rafale
So their f16 or left over aircraft can target our high cost sukhoi and rafale when it will out of aam missile or busy fighting other aircraft.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Paf will use jf17 bander as cannon fodder.
So they are inducting it in large numbers 200+.
Sukhoi and rafale will waste their aam missile on these cheap jf17.
So their f16 or left over aircraft can target our high cost sukhoi and rafale when it will out of aam missile or busy fighting other aircraft.

That's why all these new SAM s will come in handy.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Paf will use jf17 bander as cannon fodder.
So they are inducting it in large numbers 200+.
Sukhoi and rafale will waste their aam missile on these cheap jf17.
So their f16 or left over aircraft can target our high cost sukhoi and rafale when it will out of aam missile or busy fighting other aircraft.

Pakistani F-16 Block-52s still use those outdated Pulse Doppler AN/APG-66 Radars, while all of our fleet will get AESA radars, Pulse Doppler radars are inferior to PESA radars, and PESA radars are inferior to AESA radars.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Paf will use jf17 bander as cannon fodder.
So they are inducting it in large numbers 200+.
Sukhoi and rafale will waste their aam missile on these cheap jf17.
They are ready to loose 2-3 jf17 for single sukhoi or rafale
So their f16 or left over aircraft can target our high cost sukhoi and rafale when it will out of aam missile or busy fighting other aircraft.

Pakistani F-16 Block-52s still use those outdated Pulse Doppler AN/APG-66 Radars, while all of our fleet will get AESA radars, Pulse Doppler radars are inferior to PESA radars, and PESA radars are inferior to AESA radars.

Now you’re the judge, you decide...
Gripen-E
LCA Tejas MK-II MWF (Can carry 8 BVRs simultaneously too)
F-16 Block-70/72 (Way too superior to Pakistani F-16 Block-50/52s).