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[Shaitan]

"Development of Trishul missile system has been completed as technology demonstrator," Defence Minister A K Antony said in a written reply in Rajya Sabha.

Right, nice job at hiding the failure..

 

[Armand2REP]

That's funny, Trishul was part of a five point indigenous missile plan and it was a FAIL.

 

[Galaxy]

Right, nice job at hiding the failure..

It's not failure.

We don't need Trishul when we have Akash which is advance version of Trishul. Successful. Isn't it ? Already Indian armed forces order is more than 5 Bn $.

 

[Galaxy]

That's funny, Trishul was part of a five point indigenous missile plan and it was a FAIL.

Why we need Trishul when we will have Akash ? Care to explain ??

Trishul range was only 12Km but Akash is around 25-40 Km.

How come Trishul can fail when Akash was successful ??


Trishul Surface To Air Missile Not A Failure Says Government

2007-05-17 Trishul missile system is not a failure. Technically it has met the performance objectives as per original Qualitative Requirements (QRs) though delayed. The main reason for this delay are technical problems in achieving perfect 3-beam guidance and obtaining millimetric wave components from abroad.

http://www.india-defence.com/reports-3210


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akash_(missile)

 

[Godless-Kafir]

That's funny, Trishul was part of a five point indigenous missile plan and it was a FAIL.

I smell cheese...

 

[Armand2REP]

Trishul was part of a quick reaction naval defence, nothing like Akash. It was a FAIL because IN had to buy Barak instead.

 

[Armand2REP]

I smell cheese...

I smell gau jal...

 

[Galaxy]

Trishul was part of a quick reaction naval defence, nothing like Akash. It was a FAIL because IN had to buy Barak instead.

Barak range will be 70-110 Km whereas Trishul range was mere 10-12 Km. Do you even know the difference ?

Trishul and Akash both were initiated for short range SAM for 2 or 3 armed forces. But eventually, Since Akash was successful. Hence, Trishul was not needed. Indeed, after closing Trisul project, IA+IAF combined ordered reached more than 5 Bn $ for Akash SAM. Decade back, we needed some 10Km range SAM but not any more. We bought SpyDer as well as Barak-8 mainly because we didn't had tech for active radar seeker nor DRDO ever claimed. We have started working on that couple of years back only.

Trishul was just very short range SAM which is useless when we have Akash which is far better in every aspect.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

I smell gau jal...

what is that?

 

[Armand2REP]

Barak range is 70-110 Km whereas Trishul range was mere 10-12 Km. Do you even know the difference ?

Barak has a range of 10km. You have no clue.

Trishul and Akash both were initiated for short range SAM for 2 or 3 armed forces. But eventually, Since Akash was successful. Hence, Trishul was not needed. Indeed, after closing Trisul project, IA+IAF combined ordered reached more than 5 Bn $ for Akash SAM. Decade back, we needed some 10Km range SAM but not any more. We bought SpyDer as well as Barak-8 mainly because we didn't had tech for active radar seeker not DRDO claimed. We have started working on that couple of years back.

Akash is no SHORAD, it is an MR-SAM. I am sure you don't know what those terms mean, SHORAD = short range air defence, MR-SAM = medium range surface-air missile.

Miatri was supposed to be the JV for a land based SHORAD. Currently India has no programme.

Trishul was just very short range SAM which is useless when we have Akash which is far better in every aspect.

Throwing the concept of SHORAD out the window...

 

[Folk hero]

I smell gau jal...

i think you referring cow urine, gau (cow) jal water or in your case urine.

kindly don't use abusive words.

 

[Galaxy]

Barak has a range of 10km. You have no clue.

Obviously, I was referring to Barak-8 which has range 70-110km or you didn't knew about that ??

Akash is no SHORAD, it is an MR-SAM. I am sure you don't know what those terms mean, SHORAD = short range air defence, MR-SAM = medium range surface-air missile.

Don't explain me meaning. Akash is Short range and not MR SAM, So Trisul was. What's your point ?? Didn't i said the same thing?.

Trishul was called off. Because we had Akash (IA, IAF) and Barak-1 (Navy). Barak-8 will replace Barak-1. So why to make something like Barak-1 ? :shocked:

Miatri was supposed to be the JV for a land based SHORAD. Currently India has no programme.

Yes, true. We don't have any programme for SHORAD. Maitri was but we closed due to lack of tech. What's your point ??

Throwing the concept of SHORAD out the window...

Do you know the difference between SAM and Air-defense ??

We didn't had capability to make something like SpyDer and Barak. So, We bought from Israel.

SAM, we were successful. So we closed Trisul and continued with Akash.

Why to make something like Barak-1 when we will have Barak-8 on almost every warship in next few years ?? Trolling with Non-sense post ??

 

[Godless-Kafir]

I smell gau jal...

You want some, you french b@stard.

 

[Armand2REP]

Obviously you weren't comparing it to Trishul and its 9km range.

Apparently you need plenty of explaining. If Trishul was called off because you had Akash, there would be Akash on naval ships instead of Barak. Akash and Trishul were two completely different programmes, one never replaced the other. :shocked:

You advocate scrapping land based SHORAD with more MR Akash. That is the non-sense post.

 

[Armand2REP]

Why? You want some cheese?

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Why? You want some cheese?

How about some Frogs?

 

[Galaxy]

Obviously you weren't comparing it to Trishul and its 9km range.

Apparently you need plenty of explaining. If Trishul was called off because you had Akash, there would be Akash on naval ships instead of Barak. Akash and Trishul were two completely different programmes, one never replaced the other. :shocked:

You advocate scrapping land based SHORAD with more MR Akash. That is the non-sense post.

Well, we bought Barak-1 in 1997. (15 years back). JINSA Online -- Israel-India Military and Civil Trade Ties Skyrocket

Why we will make something like Trishul to replace Barak once we already bought ? Armed forces always look forward and that's why Trishul project was closed.

So, What was the point of Trishul ?? Only possibility was for IA, IAF and more number for IN. But for IA, IAF - we already had successful Akash with even better range as well as quality. Navy - It wasn't needed as we signed JV for Barak-8 (5 years back) which will ultimately replace Barak. Why to make something for 10km range when we will be operating 70-100 Km range system in near future?

Trishul was merely tech demonstrator in order to get some experience for futuristic project. How can we fail in Trishul but successful in Akash ? Not possible.

For system like Barak & SpyDer - We didn't had tech nor we ever claimed. That's why we bought worth multi-billion $ system from Israel. Now, we started working on that, nevertheless Barak is JV. One can say DRDO failed in that segment.

But not in SR SAM......It was successful with some delay which i agree. :cool2:

 

[Godless-Kafir]

There is no point defending the Thrishual is a fail but the Barak is only an intermediary for an local missile to take its place.. Other missiles like the Akash and Shurya will take its place. The problem is the Ships where fitted with silos made for Barak.

 

[Armand2REP]

One can say DRDO failed in that segment.

Yes, DRDO failed with domestic Trishul. That is all that was said. We can go on all month about DRDO failures... what are the successes? Akash is half success since they needed Polish radar, but that is fine.

 

[Folk hero]

like i mentioned before until our government show some urgency develop military project quickly DRDO will stay like a failed org.

Q) why did our Arjun mbt project forty years to complete.
A)because we have to hurry we could easily buy tanks from russia or europe

Q)why did kavari engine still not complete.
A)why simple we buy tons of engines from russia europe or US.

Q)why did LCH tejas also took too long to complete.
A)because we are not under military sanctions like china or iran we can buy jet fighters from global military market, eg when a person can buy vegetables market he no need to grow him self like we don,t have to hurry our military development.

above is sad but it is the truth.

so what about israel and singapore they have no choice to make their own military hardware, israel is surrounded nations that want to destroy it and they are not rich enough to buy every military hardware from us or europe.

and singapore is too small and you can guess the rest.