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[nitesh]

Business Line : Industry & Economy / Government & Policy : Odisha ordnance factory likely to produce Pinaka rocket

 

[nitesh]

DRDO delivers 5 Daksh ROVs; Limited order for 20 more | India Defence

2012-02-02 The first batch of five remotely operated vehicle (ROV) Daksh, designed and developed by Research and Development Establishment (Engineers) [R&DE (E)], Pune, was handed over to Maj Gen Rakesh Bassi, SM, Director General Combat Engineers, by Shri S Sundaresh, DS and CC R&D (ACE&SI), DRDO, in a flagging off ceremony held on 19 December 2011 at R&DE (E).

A limited-series-production order for 20 Daksh has been placed by the Indian Army after extensive trials, testing and acceptance.

 

[nitesh]

DRDO seeks nod for domestic AWACS - Indian Express

Buoyed by the success of its indigenous eye-in-the-sky last December, the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) has pushed for a homemade version of the advanced Airborne Warning & Control System (AWACS) that can peer deep into enemy territory from higher altitudes.

Days before testing the maiden flight of its Airborne Early Warning & Control system in Brazil, the DRDO shot off a proposal to the Defence Ministry seeking Rs 850 crore to "design and develop AWACS for the IAF".

The DRDO's proposal does not identify a technology partner but keeps open the option of taking on consultants as and when required. The aim is to develop long-range radars with onboard command, control and communications for both tactical and air defence forces from higher altitudes, says the proposal sent on November 21.

The AWACS is extremely useful for India in large conflicts as it surveys a wider expanse of airspace and coastlines, and can monitor large number of aircraft and warships from a greater height than the AEWCs. Moreover, it can provide a 360-degree coverage of aircraft movement and troop build-up nearly 400 km inside neighbouring terrains compared to normal 250 km (375 km extended) detection with a 240-degree vision of AEWCs.

The DRDO proposal highlights this ability of AWACS to track multiple targets through large distances, said sources.

So far, India has got three Phalcon AWACS, the last of which was delivered in mid-2011, from Israel's Elta. A major follow-on contract has been rumored since April 2008 but the contract is yet to be signed.

Armed with more than double the number of control operator stations, AWACS can trap more electronic intelligence and communications intercepts from air as well as maritime and key border stations.

The Rs 1,800-crore AEWC development programme, approved by the Cabinet Committee on Security in October 2004, was "a major milestone" towards realising the dream of indigenous AEWC to put India into a select club of countries.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

The title makes it obivious about what this thread is about, we all know the huge short comings in DRDO.

Let alone parts of the Missile development program(MDP). Almost everything else is either stuck perpetually or abandoned.

Many projects that would be considered easy even in small island states like Singapore, we end up spending millions to buy like the TAR rifles from Israel or a Howitzer which are pretty much the lower rungs of Defense development and mandatory for a large nation such as India.

So where is it going wrong, what are the causes of it and should it be privatized whole sale?

 

[plugwater]

They are not a failed organization, They always deliver but one or two decades late

 

[Param]

OK just imagine if DRDO started delivering world class products in time. What would happen?

We wont buy weapons from Russia, Israel, France, Europe or US.

As a result most of these countries with the exception of US will start selling stuff to China and even Pak.

 

[Folk hero]

ow do i put it DRDO is not a failed org yet, let's face it our entire defense industrial setup is cr^p and we think it's very organized but it's not.

where it's going wrong, ask our mod our government they know pretty well but not doing anything about it.

what are the causes, they don't feel the urgency because we are not in any kind war or cold war so why hurry, because of our government they don't know already in cold war with china and pakistan.

should it be privatized, no we don't have any effective laws to prevent leaks in our defense industry may in future but not now.

 

[SpArK]

DRDO is not a failed organisation but a poorly organised organisation.

When professionalism is induced into it , it can deliver . Now its a reminiscent of a govt office.

 

[Dovah]

OK just imagine if DRDO started delivering world class products in time. What would happen?

We wont buy weapons from Russia, Israel, France, Europe or US.

As a result most of these countries with the exception of US will start selling stuff to China and even Pak.

Ok dude, what??

 

[SpArK]

Ok dude, what??

Expectation of a developing country to deliver on par with west.

 

[balai_c]

West can keep on developing technology because of substantial investments in the past. Without the critical mass of technology that takes to churn out a mature product, asking to develop mature battle capable technology is ludicrous. And creating that critical mass takes both money and time. And more important, west sticks together. Creating a world beating equipment in a western country is easy,because almost all the critical technology are possessed by them. Why do you think sanction worked against development of Tejas? A very simple example would be if we try to buy a large aerospace company like lets say Boeing. Even if we have buy the company itself, transferring the technology would require government clearance.


DRDO has many ventures in many fields. Some very visible, some not so visible. A very noteworthy example would be its food laboratories. MRE rations created by DRDO really are a lifesaver. Another very noteworthy example would be electronic warfare. Under DRDO's supervision, the samyukhta electronic warfare system was created, one that is highly appreciated by all arms of armed forces.

DRDO is a large organization with a very wide spread. It succeeds sometime, while it fails sometime. But calling it a failure would be a bit of a stretch.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

So what can be done to improve the situation? Those who criticize should also give remedies.

The following are failures by any standards.

1) Kaveri= Failure

2)LCA= Partial Failure(no advancement in avionics like radar or engine and many other stuff we know about)

3)Arjun

4)Trishul

5)UAVs we still buy from the outside

6)Guns we still buy from the outside

7)???

Anyone want to add?

You call that a successful organization?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

So what can be done to improve the situation? Those who criticize should also give remedies.

The following are failures by any standards.

1) Kaveri= Failure

2)LCA= Partial Failure(no advancement in avionics like radar or engine and many other stuff we know about)

3)Arjun

4)Trishul

5)UAVs we still buy from the outside

6)Guns we still buy from the outside

7)???

Anyone want to add?

You call that a successful organization?

look at the successes, all the missile programs and BMD and radars are successful.

 

[Param]

look at the successes, all the missile programs and BMD and radars are successful.

I would not add BMD.
I believe its good but no one acknowledges the Israeli input.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

look at the successes, all the missile programs and BMD and radars are successful.

Apart from a few missiles most other stuff are failures or partial failures, which push us to buy radars from Israel etc.,

Not to mention we can only hope those nukes work if ever the need arises. We havent even tested them.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Apart from a few missiles most other stuff are failures or partial failures, which push us to buy radars from Israel etc.,

Not to mention we can only hope those nukes work if ever the need arises. We havent even tested them.

They might be tested on supercomputers??

 

[Godless-Kafir]

They might be tested on supercomputers??

That is not close to any real test, they say they test in the lab but In the real world something may go wrong.

 

[methos]

OK just imagine if DRDO started delivering world class products in time. What would happen?

We wont buy weapons from Russia, Israel, France, Europe or US.

As a result most of these countries with the exception of US will start selling stuff to China and even Pak.

Only Russia, all other of the listed countries don't sell weapons to China following the Tianmen square massacre. And Russia is quite pissed off because China copies their equipment after they bought a small number.

 

[Armand2REP]

I always thought NAG was at least one success DRDO could claim... where is it? They work on every project under the sun and finish nothing. Quit wasting time reinventing bug spray and devote resources into strategic technologies. Their portfolio is all over the map.

 

[Oracle]

People, you need to understand the sanctions India had for decades in terms of critical technology. What DRDO has achieved indigineously still, is something to be proud of. I agree with Spark though, that professionalism should be given more attention.