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Ok guys whatever it is , it is definitely not a ICBM .

It could be simply a model also and nothing more. And given the outlandish design i am kind of inclined to believe so.
You are right. Somebody got bored and made this. If not this is some kind of special purpose missile.

Ayudh means warhead in missile tech parlance so maybe the body is a useless distraction.
 

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You are right. Somebody got bored and made this. If not this is some kind of special purpose missile.

Ayudh means warhead in missile tech parlance so maybe the body is a useless distraction.
Completely irrelevant but you a Blackadder fan as well??
 

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Interesting possibilities with Shaurya

Erect a common non descript house around it with a retractable roof and voila !

Or simply install the launch fixture into the ground with a retractable lid and voila !

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Also note the similarity with the cannister round above and below

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Identical round indicating easy interchangeability between fixed and mobile launchers.
As I have said repeatedly, I would not be surprised to see a SLBM A5 getting termed as A6 or a higher throw weight SSM as A6.
 

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As I have said repeatedly, I would not be surprised to see a SLBM A5 getting termed as A6 or a higher throw weight SSM as A6.
A SLBM A5? Agni-5 is already exploit all the potential capability of India's current solid engine. You will need a new solid rocket engine, new shell material, new navigation system, new RV, etc, etc. After finishing all these, you get a completely new missile.
 

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A SLBM A5? Agni-5 is already exploit all the potential capability of India's current solid engine. You will need a new solid rocket engine, new shell material, new navigation system, new RV, etc, etc. After finishing all these, you get a completely new missile.
Yes... A completely new missile.

By quoting A5 I meant just a missile of its caliber in range and payload.
 

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Kalyani ALSV prototype trials

Dayum that is one ugly thing.

Goes to show that Kalyani group has never a made a vehicle in their lifetime. I love Baba Kalyani and his spirit but maybe he should stay out of this game.

Contrast this with offerings from actual vehicle manufacturers like Tata, Mahindra and Ashok Leyland.
 

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Dayum that is one ugly thing.

Goes to show that Kalyani group has never a made a vehicle in their lifetime. I love Baba Kalyani and his spirit but maybe he should stay out of this game.

Contrast this with offerings from actual vehicle manufacturers like Tata, Mahindra and Ashok Leyland.
Military vehicles are built for prostituting or soliticiting sex in the battlefield ?

Let's not be like fanboys who jump over irrelevant things which have no utility in operational use.

Aesthetics has ZERO relevance in war
What matters is HUNDRED percent functionality
 

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Dayum that is one ugly thing.

Goes to show that Kalyani group has never a made a vehicle in their lifetime. I love Baba Kalyani and his spirit but maybe he should stay out of this game.

Contrast this with offerings from actual vehicle manufacturers like Tata, Mahindra and Ashok Leyland.

Definitely ugly, but Bharat Forge should get deep into armour development. This program's requirement had to been changed, because the previous avatar of LSVs didnt look like the current bunch. They've managed to keep pace with IA's demands it seems. They're all being trialed, modified as fit from trial data, etc. Im glad to see the rapid development, prototyping of such systems in the private sector. Indians should be proud to have such private industry - not yet fully utilized, but each year adds incremental gains. More big orders are needed and inked. Partially subsidized competitive bids are good for big programs too. And red tape, lethargic-for-no reason on current and future programs need to go.
 
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Definitely ugly, but Bharat Forge should get deep into armour development. This program's requirement had to been changed, because the previous avatar of LSVs didnt look like the current bunch. They've managed to keep pace with IA's demands it seems. They're all being trialed, modified as fit from trial data, etc. Im glad to see the rapid development, prototyping of such systems in the private sector. Indians should be proud to have such private industry - not yet fully utilized, but each year adds incremental gains. More big orders are needed and inked. Partially subsidized competitive bids are good for big programs too. And red tape, lethargic-for-no reason on current and future programs need to go.
I am all for private sector including Kalyani to dive head first into armour development. The more the merrier.

But this ALSV is a "what do we have lose" idea. They are not a vehicle manufacturer i.e. don't have a readily available assembly line or skilled manpower from the get go unlike other private players. SAme goes for sub-systems like engines which AFAIK they don't make.

As I said earlier, Kalyani group is an awesome conglomerate but this is not exactly a shining example of their ingenuity.

Compare this with AL's approach. They bought out LM's design and put Indian sub-systems in it to bring out a very competent product (at least on paper).

 
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I am all for private sector including Kalyani to dive head first into armour development. The more the merrier.

But this ALSV is a "what do we have lose" idea. They are not a vehicle manufacturer i.e. don't have a readily available assembly line or skilled manpower from the get go unlike other private players. SAme goes for sub-systems like engines which AFAIK they don't make.

As I said earlier, Kalyani group is an awesome conglomerate but this is not exactly a shining example of their ingenuity.

Compare this AL's approach. They bought out LM's design and put Indian sub-systems to bring out a very competent product (at least on paper).


They didnt make artillery guns, either, but their approach of buying out assembly lines, forging technical partnerships with outside OEMs and tech developers like DRDO, etc. they have a whole line of artillery guns for several requirements and some of which isnt a requirement.

It helps having auto background and connections, you're right, but historically, several companies have gotten into defence and aerospace production from making things like fridges, etc. That's the phase India private sector is going through. You have a spring company in India making sniper rifles and short piston AKish prototypes right now, they're on their mark 5 or something based off of user feedback. Hell, look at the flashy recent Turkish armor designs, what auto background do they have? The likes of Bharat Forge and L&T can most definitely get into armour and they are. They have already fostered a culture of excellence in their own domains which they can transition into defence and aero.

I have seen all the LSV designs. You dont need to show me. Let the actual competitive trialing show the outcome, because even that ugly OFB MPV beat out Mahindras.
 
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Insight of Project VL-SRSAM.

The VL-SRSAM is intended for Indian Navy warships and will be installed inside 8-cell VLS. Critical technologies for VL-SRSAM has already been developed by DRDO and overall development will be done under Development-cum-Production Partner (DcPP). VL-SRSAM will be based on Astra.
 

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