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....but Novator is not anti-radiation missile...
It’s just a very long range, active RF seeker based AAM
nor did I claim so.. comparison was made in the kind of role they play.. anti awacs.
 

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nor did I claim so.. comparison was made in the kind of role they play.. anti awacs.
The ‘role’ of this presumptive missile is purely speculative at this time.
India spent a good deal of money in sponsoring Russian R&D to develop Novator (400 km range). Not sure there’s an immediate need to an ‘indigenous awacs killer’ (given that such missiles are normally required in such small quantities)
 

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The ‘role’ of this presumptive missile is purely speculative at this time.
yes.. its speculation onlee. Regarding Indian investment in Novator - that story is as credible as Indian lease of TU 22 or presence of Indian Mig 29's at Farkhor. I have been hearing this story almost since dawn of 21st century.
 

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Vijaindra k Thakur is claiming that Rudra-M3 is a air to surface anti radiation missile with range of 100-150 km , while NGARM is a air to air anti radiation missile .



Damn everything turned into kitcheri :confused1:

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I don't buy the news of Rudra being an ARM. I would wait for a single confirmation on project Rudra from DRDO. As of now, I would just stick to my belief of what Rudra is for all these years.
 

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yes.. its speculation onlee. Regarding Indian investment in Novator - that story is as credible as Indian lease of TU 22 or presence of Indian Mig 29's at Farkhor. I have been hearing this story almost since dawn of 21st century.
Even if the 'investment' story is not credible enough....at least we all know that India DOES have Novator missiles (a true AWACS killer) in its arsenal.
Unless Novator missiles shelf life is up (and not serviceable anymore), development of a new AWACS killer (with only 100 km range??????) doesn't sound likely.
 

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The ‘role’ of this presumptive missile is purely speculative at this time.
India spent a good deal of money in sponsoring Russian R&D to develop Novator (400 km range). Not sure there’s an immediate need to an ‘indigenous awacs killer’ (given that such missiles are normally required in such small quantities)
Everything must be indigenous as there is no telling of how many quantity of any missile may be needed. One may need to make large number of AEWACS killers if the enemy starts mass producing smaller planes like Do228 and mounting even mini-AEWACS on them. So, indigeisation of every important defence items regardless of the number of usage, is needed.

yes.. its speculation onlee. Regarding Indian investment in Novator - that story is as credible as Indian lease of TU 22 or presence of Indian Mig 29's at Farkhor. I have been hearing this story almost since dawn of 21st century.
India had invested in Su30 with Russia in 1996 too. So, the investment in K100 is perfectly possible and so is the investment in Brahmos. Since India assisted the development of these weapons systems and thus prevented their delay, India was given the ToT of the weapons.

Even if the 'investment' story is not credible enough....at least we all know that India DOES have Novator missiles (a true AWACS killer) in its arsenal.
Unless Novator missiles shelf life is up (and not serviceable anymore), development of a new AWACS killer (with only 100 km range??????) doesn't sound likely.
I too find it suspicious that an ARM missile is Air-Air which I have never heard of before. Also, the replacement for K100 being a 100km missile is also appearing quite odd.
 

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I don't buy the news of Rudra being an ARM. I would wait for a single confirmation on project Rudra from DRDO. As of now, I would just stick to my belief of what Rudra is for all these years.
Multiple official documents confirms the existance of multiple Rudras.
 

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Even if the 'investment' story is not credible enough....at least we all know that India DOES have Novator missiles (a true AWACS killer) in its arsenal.
Any official source? most online sources are speculations and hearsay
Unless Novator missiles shelf life is up (and not serviceable anymore), development of a new AWACS killer (with only 100 km range??????) doesn't sound likely.
I doubt on 100 km range part if arm aam project is true.. should be much more. But there have been arm aam's in the past with 100+- km range and with having anti awacs role envisioned for them. Nothing bizarre about concept.
 

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Just a rough idea of the communication wagon of the Agni rail mobile launch system

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The canopy of the communication wagon is made of composite realised via VARTM process and is radar transparent to all installed communication systems and satellite tracking antennas. ( 4 different sections for 4 different frequencies aka 4 different communication equipment types )

And according to DRDO there is a total of eight such Agni rail mobile systems. Seriously why give this info out , are they crazy ?

And the Agni missile in question should be imo Agni 3
 
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Just a rough idea of the communication wagon of the Agni rail mobile launch system

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The canopy of the communication wagon is made of composite realised via VARTM process and is radar transparent to all installed communication systems and satellite tracking antennas. ( 4 different sections for 4 different frequencies aka 4 different communication equipment types )

And according to DRDO there is a total of eight such Agni rail mobile systems. Seriously why give this info out , are they crazy ?

And the Agni missile in question should be imo Agni 3
Interesting to note the nondescript rust coloration of the canopy!
 

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Interesting to note the nondescript rust coloration of the canopy!
However humit can identify the wagons by looking at the sides / underneath the body ie the reinforced base fuselage and distinctive W shaped bars .

Not a good move by DRDO to reveal it publically. Can now be targetted by anti social and anti national elements.
 

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However humit can identify the wagons by looking at the sides / underneath the body ie the reinforced base fuselage and distinctive W shaped bars .

Not a good move by DRDO to reveal it publically. Can now be targetted by anti social and anti national elements.
In all probability rail-mobile systems maybe de-inducted shortly in preference to the road mobile systems.
 

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Multiple official documents confirms the existance of multiple Rudras.
Official documents? There is nothing official on RUDRA in media. Its just some IAF official like recently or Journos who have spin one or other theory. As per these reports RUDRA Mk1 2 and 3 are totally different projects. But it is not a norm from DRDO end.
 

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Official documents? There is nothing official on RUDRA in media. Its just some IAF official like recently or Journos who have spin one or other theory. As per these reports RUDRA Mk1 2 and 3 are totally different projects. But it is not a norm from DRDO end.
Any official source? most online sources are speculations and hearsay
Yes, parliamentary standing committee report on DRDO projects and DRDO newsletter for starters.
 

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Yes, parliamentary standing committee report on DRDO projects and DRDO newsletter for starters.
None of the DRDO news letter I came across talks about Project Rudra though. The parliamentary committee report only talk of sanctioned project of Rudra M-III. But what about Rudra M1 or 2 are then? What are they?

RUDRA is the weaponized ALH, but what is project Rudra? We know its a missile, but what kind of missile exactly?
 

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None of the DRDO news letter I came across talks about Project Rudra though. The parliamentary committee report only talk of sanctioned project of Rudra M-III. But what about Rudra M1 or 2 are then? What are they?

RUDRA is the weaponized ALH, but what is project Rudra? We know its a missile, but what kind of missile exactly?
You should follow things carefully before making assumptions.

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