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johnj

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Ig we need the aircraft
ISTAR sensors have been developed by drdo
Infact that was what drdo proposing right it has all resources to convert an aircraft into istar
Infact in 2020 there was a report India procuring 5 istar platform 3 being completely us last 2 with drdo sensor
If wrong then sorry
No, ISRO cant design ISTAR aircraft like Raytheon Sentinel currently, but one with limited capability - yes.
A reason why IAF/GoI showing big interest in Raytheon Sentinel
 

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R&D&D - Research Design & Development. Its good if its being fabricated by private industries - pvt cos get necessary ToT and they can leverage their existing infrastructure.
What infra ?? Tata setting up infra for c295
 

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No, ISRO cant design ISTAR aircraft like Raytheon Sentinel currently, but one with limited capability - yes.
A reason why IAF/GoI showing big interest in Raytheon Sentinel
Yeah that was the news 3 American 2 Indian sensor ones
But yeah Raytheon ones are world's most capable istar platform
Infact in 2020 it was about sentinel
 

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Except for brains, most of the DRDO labs don't have much. People are visionary, they have ideas but the overall internal infrastructure is more or less like every other government department. Ever been to SBI? Quite similar. You need tonnes of paperwork for even basic things, even procurement of nut bolts requires everything from RFI to RFP to L1 bidding.

We still use old CAD softwares, FEA softwares are even older, you won't find a single gaming PC/laptop, we are yet to use 3D printing on a large scale, the tools & equipment are old, there is an utter lack of 5-axis CNC machining...
Very aptly put, especially the last paragraph. By the way, do you happen to be a mechanical engineer or something?? I'm asking because you really seem to know your way around all the technical stuff.
 

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Except for brains, most of the DRDO labs don't have much. People are visionary, they have ideas but the overall internal infrastructure is more or less like every other government department. Ever been to SBI? Quite similar. You need tonnes of paperwork for even basic things, even procurement of nut bolts requires everything from RFI to RFP to L1 bidding.

We still use old CAD softwares, FEA softwares are even older, you won't find a single gaming PC/laptop, we are yet to use 3D printing on a large scale, the tools & equipment are old, there is an utter lack of 5-axis CNC machining...
Do DRDO labs have internet connectivity. Last I heard they were prohibited to access internet?
 

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Maybe you haven't heard about Samyukta and Himshakti land-based EW systems, also SAP-14/SAP-518 pods for the Su30 MKI.
Arre ChaCha... 🤦‍♂️
our EW, surveillance, intelligence, reconnaissance sucks in Aerial forces. We have zero EW warfare platform, way inadequate numbers of AWACS, no proper ISTAR platform
Samyukta and Himshakti can't fly...now don't say you'll put one in C-130J and fly that

SAP-14/518 both are "jamming pod" instead of proper EW warfare platform like EA-18 or EC-130H. Jamming pods are good at protecting an attack package from enemy SAM and AAM by generating false targets...but that's all, it can't do anything other than that. Proper EW platforms can jam communications, radars, record radar positions on maps, even guide ARMs to them. And on top of everything, we don't have adequate number of even those jamming pods, only a handful.
 

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15 for the Navy is overkill. Do they want to be omnipotent in every inch of the ocean around India or what?

IAF & IA seems to be getting a limited order only and will have to rely on indigenous options to fulfill larger requirement.
Army and Air Force are getting 16 UAVs for a hostile land border of approximately 8,000km (Pakistan, Afghanistan, China, Nepal, Bhutan)

Navy is getting 15 UAVs for a maritime border of almost 7,500km

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Shouldn't the IAF have all the 16 drones? Why give it to IA?
Then by that logic shouldn't Army Aviation Corps have all the Apaches? They're one who would be calling for close air support, or will be doing combined arms warfare. Why lengthen the chain of command by including air force in it?

See, the problem here is we still don't have sensible commands in tri-services who think like a team. What we have are three young siblings who keep fighting for the treats their parents give. "If he's getting that, then I also need it".
Or even worse, sabotaging others procurement process. For example, Indian Navy has always wanted to maintain an aircraft carrier force of at least three, do you who has objected to this idea the most?
 

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Arre ChaCha... 🤦‍♂️

Samyukta and Himshakti can't fly...now don't say you'll put one in C-130J and fly that

SAP-14/518 both are "jamming pod" instead of proper EW warfare platform like EA-18 or EC-130H. Jamming pods are good at protecting an attack package from enemy SAM and AAM by generating false targets...but that's all, it can't do anything other than that. Proper EW platforms can jam communications, radars, record radar positions on maps, even guide ARMs to them. And on top of everything, we don't have adequate number of even those jamming pods, only a handful.
 

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