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[Lonewarrior]

It's pronounced enough to get hit there

Yup, the gap between the turret and hull seems bigger than even some World War era tanks

Ah right .. turret ring is exposed .. But that would have to be a pretty lucky shot.

If the gap would have been lesser then it'd have to be a lucky shot...in this case it just need to be well aimed one

Isn't it the case that shot trap is only a problem with APHE rounds sabot rounds don't really bounce about like that.

We'll the actual problem with shot trap is not "shot trap" or turret ring but the thickness of hull's roof armour that's protecting the driver. Here's the armour layout of a T-72

The hull floor and roof armour are the thinnest at just 20mm, but the turret comes down in a flange to protect the front portion as much as possible.

So ultimately it won't matter what type of shell you're firing, that 20mm armour is vulnerable enough to be damaged by almost anything.
You fire a APFSDS, a single 30mm long sheared section of it would penetrate the hull like a hot knife in butter.
HE rounds would cause so much overpressure that the roof would crack.
Or as @SwordOfDarkness mentioned, even RPG would mess that thing up.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Or as @SwordOfDarkness mentioned, even RPG would mess that thing up.

So that thing is basically useless in a war maybe they will do something about it it's just a prototype right

 

[patriots]

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

So that thing is basically useless in a war maybe they will do something about it it's just a prototype right

2 issues I see

Their main prototype is 105 mm one, which cant handle MBTs
Turret design needs to be redone to be effective

The biggest thing is, neither will happen. Turkey isnt known for producing things that perform well in war; They are known for producing cool looking things with impressive spec sheets that will promote foreign sales. Tacticool>>>Practicool

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

2 issues I see

Their main prototype is 105 mm one, which cant handle MBTs
Turret design needs to be redone to be effective

The biggest thing is, neither will happen. Turkey isnt known for producing things that perform well in war; They are known for producing cool looking things with impressive spec sheets that will promote foreign sales. Tacticool>>>Practicool

That's true seeing all there drones getting shot down in Ukraine is proof of that witch active air defence we have seen them go silent on drones front but atleast they are trying here we have no will to innovate

 

[binayak95]

Arre ChaCha...

Samyukta and Himshakti can't fly...now don't say you'll put one in C-130J and fly that

SAP-14/518 both are "jamming pod" instead of proper EW warfare platform like EA-18 or EC-130H. Jamming pods are good at protecting an attack package from enemy SAM and AAM by generating false targets...but that's all, it can't do anything other than that. Proper EW platforms can jam communications, radars, record radar positions on maps, even guide ARMs to them. And on top of everything, we don't have adequate number of even those jamming pods, only a handful.

The IAF has one squadron of dedicated SIGINT and ELINT aircraft, you know exactly which squadron I am talking about - and aside from that the best EW platform we have is the P8I - tells you all you need to know about the IAF's topsy turvy procurement.

 

[binayak95]

15 for the Navy is overkill. Do they want to be omnipotent in every inch of the ocean around India or what?

IAF & IA seems to be getting a limited order only and will have to rely on indigenous options to fulfill larger requirement.

That is precisely why IN is buying 15. complete and total dominance of the information space in the IOR.

And to reduce the burden on the P8Is

 

[binayak95]

2 issues I see

Their main prototype is 105 mm one, which cant handle MBTs
Turret design needs to be redone to be effective

The biggest thing is, neither will happen. Turkey isnt known for producing things that perform well in war; They are known for producing cool looking things with impressive spec sheets that will promote foreign sales. Tacticool>>>Practicool

the 105mm is not good enough for MBTs is a myth of epic proportions.

You show me one MBT that remains mission capable after taking a platoon of 4 105mm guns head on.

Mission kill doesnt mean K-kill.

 

[ezsasa]

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[Fatalis]

Modularity of Pinaka system.

 

[patriots]

Guided pinaka
With unguided one
In a single truck

 

[johnj]

Is there is threads for EW, C4I2, ISTAR

Elbit Systems is unveiling the Nano SPEAR at The Paris Airshow, an advanced, digital and miniature system designed as a countermeasure against radar-guided air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles that threaten aircrews and their platforms. The Nano SPEAR is part of the Self Protection Electronic Attack and Reconnaissance (SPEAR) product family, which includes the Micro SPEAR for very small installations; Light SPEAR for installation on medium-large sized helicopters and UAVs; and the Advanced SPEAR ECM Pod currently on contract for providing active self-protection for the C-390 transport aircraft. The SPEAR product family is based on advanced hardware, including Digital Receiver Exciters, that are modular and provide ease of scalability.
The Nano SPEAR is an advanced, expendable RF decoy that uses the aircraft’s existing dispensing system, and once launched, acts independently to lure away hostile radar-guided missiles. Complementary to the aircraft’s existing EW System and operating in coordination with it, or standalone in the absence of an EW System, this ultra-smart RF decoy, weighing less than 800 grams, enhances the platform’s self-defenses and aircrew survivability, to achieve mission success. The Nano SPEAR features an advanced digital receiver, DRFM, and a sophisticated EW technique generator. This cutting-edge technology allows it to handle the most advanced radar threats. The Nano SPEAR is launched via a standard Counter Measure Dispenser System (CMDS) and provides effective RF protection to legacy and new platforms.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Does anybody knows the kind of trajectory for prahar missile? It's based on AAD so any guess.

Afaik shourya follows a rather straight flight profile

And if Pralay range is made out to be some 500km. Doesn't that mean in a purely ballistic profile, the range will be manyfolds??

 

[johnj]

Does anybody knows the kind of trajectory for prahar missile? It's based on AAD so any guess.

Afaik shourya follows a rather straight flight profile View attachment 210675

And if Pralay range is made out to be some 500km. Doesn't that mean in a purely ballistic profile, the range will be manyfolds??

Ballistic missile travel in ballistic trajectory. Shourya is not a true ballistic missile, its starts like ballistic missile, then fly like cruise missile and in thermal stage again ballistic.
prahar, pralay etc are TBM, ballistic missiles, follows ballistic trajectory

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Wtf is drdos obsession with cum

 

[Delta Squad]

 

[Fatalis]

ATGM for Arjun

 

[Fatalis]

 

[Photon]

Guided pinaka
With unguided one
In a single truck

View attachment 210655

Which rifle?