DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[debspark90]

This is excellent news. The Garudaa and Garuthma project had been successfully closed by DRDO according to the 2016-17 annual report of Drdo. So, developmental trials are complete and this duo is now undergoing user trials and will see active service soon.

There will be a step change in IAF's standoff precision strike capabilities with the induction of Garuda, Garuthma and SAAW.

Weren't they renamed as 'Gaurav' and 'Gautam' ? Or are they different projects..?

 

[sorcerer]

BDL receives Rs 200 cr worth order from DRDO for Medium Range Surface to Air Missile
In a press release, BDL said MRSAM is a joint development project between DRDO and Israel Aerospace Industries, Israel with BDL as the Nominated Production Agency.

NSE: BDL

Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/66152585.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[cyclops]

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[abingdonboy]

BDL receives Rs 200 cr worth order from DRDO for Medium Range Surface to Air Missile
In a press release, BDL said MRSAM is a joint development project between DRDO and Israel Aerospace Industries, Israel with BDL as the Nominated Production Agency.

NSE: BDL

Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/66152585.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Is this for the IA order of MRSAM??

 

[abingdonboy]

This is excellent news. The Garudaa and Garuthma project had been successfully closed by DRDO according to the 2016-17 annual report of Drdo. So, developmental trials are complete and this duo is now undergoing user trials and will see active service soon.

There will be a step change in IAF's standoff precision strike capabilities with the induction of Garuda, Garuthma and SAAW.

Awesome stuff! If these are user trials then that’s excellent news.

Garuthmaa With a 100km++ stand off range is an amazing capability to have.

Truly blown away with how quickly DRDO and Indian industry in general capacity is growing across the board. This isn’t just low end stuff anymore. Indian armed forces now have access to world class cutting edge equipment from Indian sources.

Imagine where they will be in 10 years.

 

[abingdonboy]

OIS-AT 3D bird detection Radar

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New single shot grenade launcher..............

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Who makes both?

This new 1C is half kg lighter.....................

Not enough for bloody IA! Has to be imported maal or they aren’t interested.

 

[power_monger]

Qrsam missile test sucessfull

 

[sayareakd]

Not enough for bloody IA! Has to be imported maal or they aren’t interested.

Quite strange pattern is being observed.
First IA went in from rifles to carbines to even tanks. They rejected locally made.
None of foreign made products survive Indian conditions.

Then they come up with new GSQR/Tenders. Also seen the fact that these new ones were made to circumvent desi designs. Like multi caliber rifles or FRCV. But its core had same requirements which are needed based on our doctrine and locations.

Our never say die guys of OFB/DRDO come up with their versions (like multi caliber rifle or new 7.65 rifles). Since we are here and have experience to our location and area of operations, which foreigns dont have, our product pass those tests. But foreign products are not tested to limits.

I was also surprised to see design philosophy of Russian and western countries. Russians are practical and say that quantity is itself a quality. Western ones are quality. In WW2 Soviet union build 84000 tanks. So many that German ran out of ammo.

Saw youtube documentary on SR71 and Mig31. Both operates in same area, at the edge of atmosphere, but both have different design and operational philosophy. Ofcourse SR71 now out of service.

In WW2 Germans were fast and swift. Russian took all factories to East and made tanks so fast and brought them to warzone and surprised Germans and finally won the war, with allied forces.

Another thing, we have Russian equipment but our doctrine are western. I think our doctrine should be based on our Geopolitical objectives and future conflicts. We should make and refine our doctrine based on our requirements and based on revolution in military affairs. Based on that our weapons and training and our weapons should be designed and made here.


Now lets hope any war which, we enter wont last much. Or we have to import all.

Its not that entire IA is corrupt, just some of those who are in purchase department. Ofcourse i also like brand new Mercedes-Benz or even RR. But when same thing could be done with Alto or others, which first suit our requirements and made in greater numbers. Its always better idea to go for locally made.

Warfare is nothing but effective management of resources to optimum use with better training and resource, small army could take out big army.

 

[debspark90]

Not enough for bloody IA! Has to be imported maal or they aren’t interested.

Well I agree, the other rifles for Non-combatants could have been the INSAS-1C instead of the AK-103. The 5.56 would have been just fine for them.

 

[south block]

Quite strange pattern is being observed.
First IA went in from rifles to carbines to even tanks. They rejected locally made.
None of foreign made products survive Indian conditions.

Then they come up with new GSQR/Tenders. Also seen the fact that these new ones were made to circumvent desi designs. Like multi caliber rifles or FRCV. But its core had same requirements which are needed based on our doctrine and locations.

Our never say die guys of OFB/DRDO come up with their versions (like multi caliber rifle or new 7.65 rifles). Since we are here and have experience to our location and area of operations, which foreigns dont have, our product pass those tests. But foreign products are not tested to limits.

I was also surprised to see design philosophy of Russian and western countries. Russians are practical and say that quantity is itself a quality. Western ones are quality. In WW2 Soviet union build 84000 tanks. So many that German ran out of ammo.

Saw youtube documentary on SR71 and Mig31. Both operates in same area, at the edge of atmosphere, but both have different design and operational philosophy. Ofcourse SR71 now out of service.

In WW2 Germans were fast and swift. Russian took all factories to East and made tanks so fast and brought them to warzone and surprised Germans and finally won the war, with allied forces.

Another thing, we have Russian equipment but our doctrine are western. I think our doctrine should be based on our Geopolitical objectives and future conflicts. We should make and refine our doctrine based on our requirements and based on revolution in military affairs. Based on that our weapons and training and our weapons should be designed and made here.


Now lets hope any war which, we enter wont last much. Or we have to import all.

Its not that entire IA is corrupt, just some of those who are in purchase department. Ofcourse i also like brand new Mercedes-Benz or even RR. But when same thing could be done with Alto or others, which first suit our requirements and made in greater numbers. Its always better idea to go for locally made.

Warfare is nothing but effective management of resources to optimum use with better training and resource, small army could take out big army.

Quality does matter now... Russians have realised it after soviet collapse & you see them going to quality. Just look at the shift in there armoured doctrine from light , medium to now heavy IFV & MBT in new UCP concept.

 

[sayareakd]

Quality does matter now... Russians have realised it after soviet collapse & you see them going to quality. Just look at the shift in there armoured doctrine from light , medium to now heavy IFV & MBT in new UCP concept.

True all are going for more armor from Russians, to Chinese to even Americans. Only Indian Army want light tanks.

 

[sayareakd]

Well I agree, the other rifles for Non-combatants could have been the INSAS-1C instead of the AK-103. The 5.56 would have been just fine for them.

Earlier it was 50:50 all set and managed, then they changed to 40:60, now 103 also jump in.
Elections are costly affairs.

 

[abingdonboy]

True all are going for more armor from Russians, to Chinese to even Americans. Only Indian Army want light tanks.

I sadly have to think this is all about $$ and there are historic and ongoing vested interests that have a grip on the senior brass of IA. It’s the only thing that explains the consistent approach the IA takes to sabotaging indigenous efforts and going for outdated foreign equipment- especially Russian.

Seems strange to me that the IAF and IN have totally abandoned Russian equipment as soon as their budgets would allow but the IA remains wedded to Russian equipment that literally no one else in the world wants.

You said it all above well, IA does the same thing again and again- creates requirement, when an Indian entity gets within sight of the final specs the IA ditches that effort and launches a fresh search this time with totally revised requirements.


I mean the rifle saga says it all. If they had supported OFB and DRDO they’d have world class small arms in their hands today, instead they are sending delegations on all expenses paid trips around the world scouting out the arms of other nations. The fact that they are actually considering a rifle from the UAE is beyond mind blowing. 5.56 isn’t good enough? So they ditch the INSAS. Multi-cal isn’t good enough so they ditch the AAR/MCIWS. Now OFB has created a seemingly decent 7.62*51 rifle but IA is disinterested??


WTF is IA doing pushing for AK-103 licence production now? Russians will be minting money from the licence fees they charge for decades to come. 7.62*39 is a ridiculous calibre that even the Russians themselves are moving away from but IA now all of a sudden demands it.


Same story with carbines, same story with LMGs, same story across the board.

And what Evernote happened to INSAS MK.1C??

Don’t even get me started on Arjun. For years I argued it was being intentionally sabotaged but people argued against me saying there was no obvious motive, now look the COAS is going to Russia and saying T-14 may be bought in the 1000s?!

I knew there was something sinister coming when IA floated FRCV tender. It seemed tailor made for the T-14.


Corrupt IA would have you believe that India is capable of sending men into space and orbiters to Mars but can’t make a decent rifle or tank.

 

[Aaj ka hero]

Awesome stuff! If these are user trials then that’s excellent news.

Garuthmaa With a 100km++ stand off range is an amazing capability to have.

Truly blown away with how quickly DRDO and Indian industry in general capacity is growing across the board. This isn’t just low end stuff anymore. Indian armed forces now have access to world class cutting edge equipment from Indian sources.

Imagine where they will be in 10 years.

I think part of it maybe because we are not in sanction and push from government as well as enemies

 

[NeXoft007]

Project DMRSPS. The missile that will be using this tech is not known to me as of now.
[HSTDV uses pure Scramjet Engine Propulsion, not DMRSP.]

 

[porky_kicker]

Who makes both?



Not enough for bloody IA! Has to be imported maal or they aren’t interested.

Radar OIS-AT a private company

The launcher not sure but it looks like a private company

 

[porky_kicker]

The AK upgrade kit

Pic of the stock which was missing

The below pics already posted , reposting to give a complete picture

 

[sayareakd]

Project DMRSPS. The missile that will be using this tech is not known to me as of now.
[HSTDV uses pure Scramjet Engine Propulsion, not DMRSP.]

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Great news.............................................

 

[power_monger]

Project DMRSPS. The missile that will be using this tech is not known to me as of now.
[HSTDV uses pure Scramjet Engine Propulsion, not DMRSP.]

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Just for info.


Isro’s Dual Mode Ramjet (DMRJ) engine—this uses both ramjet and scramjet engine technology designed to deliver supersonic and hypersonic speeds—successfully achieved Mach 6 (six times the speed of sound) speeds and put India in an exclusive club of four nations that have developed such capability.

The engine is a key part of Isro’s Avatar programme—a concept vehicle launch platform that can be reused, unlike the costly, less-efficient ‘expendable’ (single-use) platforms like PSLV.

 

[NeXoft007]

Both ISRO's DMRJ and DRDO's DMRSPS are independent projects with no cooperation between them whatsoever.