DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[Lonewarrior]

SO it means in some areas , DRDO not able to crack technologies or talent missing in India.

DRDO need to create core team with highly talented peoples from around the world with high pay packages than we able to build highly critical technologies.

Not quite simple

First of all the problem with your idea.
We definitely have very very talented people with us but no matter how anti-national or Librandu I may sound, we are still quite far from achieving the level of talent it needs. Just go through all the Indigenously developed projects and try to identify whether it's a concept that's being tried for the first time in the world or we're simply playing catch-up with rest of the world. In previous posts I've quite elaborately mentioned that why we don't have innovation driven mindset in India and as long as that's going to persist we'll lag behind.
Now coming to acquiring people from other countries, it's very tough. Earlier it used to be quite easy because countries like Germany and South Africa were doing pretty good in R&D and poaching from these countries was a cakewalk for us; from Marut to Arjun to Dhruv you'll find good examples. But nowadays the maximum R&D has been consolidated into just USA and EU; and poaching here is very tough. The first hurdle is local laws that prevent outflow of technology (ITAR) and even if you succeed then the costs are extremely high.

But in my personal opinion, perhaps the most overlooked reason why our defence R&D is not this advanced is because lack of proper non-defence industry. The problem with defence R&D or manufacturing is that the cost is very high but number of output is quite low, so in most cases you never truly achieve economies of scale. And in civilian (electronics, telecommunication, automobile) they don't have the R&D capabilities but has huge customer base which both provides captial and drives down the cost. So in US DARPA may start research on a new navigation system because both DoD and Tesla/Ford is financing it. Or DARPA can buy something from General Motors instead of making that from ground up. This kind of interaction for "dual-use" technology is quite low in India. If this thing develops then DRDO will having having enough of disposable income to start projects on their own.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Can anyone interpret this.

Are the wind turbine being manufactured here.

 

[Jimih]

100% tech transfer??

Misleading news?

 

[Chinmoy]

Can anyone interpret this.


View attachment 210087

Are the wind turbine being manufactured here.

Reliance Industries to enter captive offshore wind power

"RIL has been evaluating the segment for over a year now. Initially, it plans to set up capacity for captive consumption, with up to 5 MW, and increase later," said an official aware of the discussions, adding that RIL already has operational experience in the offshore segment through its...

m.economictimes.com

 

[AnantS]

100% tech transfer??

Lets wait for details. I doubt 100% ToT. I guess it will be along the lines (but with lesser flexibility) of similar deal with Sweden or turkey.

 

[skunk works]

Who said it got rejected ?
Give source ?

BCES is a basically a cluster of PCB ( penetration cum blast ) munitions, each powered by a rocket motor, inorder to penetrate hardened targets and then explode. It is a area weapon for destroying airfields, weapon/ammo storage sites, staging sites etc

And AFAIK in active service, Prithvi missile launchers are followed by warhead carrying vehicles to allow warhead installation of any specific type in the battlefield itself

Around 4 types of warheads are carried in each warhead carrying vehicle each enclosed in a armoured air tight container, I even posted the pics

Average DRDO scientist

 

[johnj]

100% tech transfer??

'' Manufacturing in India '' - the key word
'' Manufacturing in India '' is a part of 2009 deal with 100% TOT for F414
GE F414 Engines Selected to Power India Light Combat Aircraft Program
John Flannery, President & CEO, GE India said, "The LCA selection is a big step forward for GE and demonstrates our strong commitment to India. GE Aviation will supply the initial batch of F414-GE-INS6 engines and the rest will be manufactured in India under transfer of technology arrangement."

 

[Chinmoy]

Archer ng? Well it needs to take it first flight before we can integrate weapons on it right? And as for integration goes maybe helina

Let me give you two scenario.

1- You build a drone to carry payload of 5 kg, but after all it came up that it has to carry a payload of 10kg.

2- You build a drone to carry a payload of 20 kg, but it came up that the payload is just 5 kg.


So what you think regarding this two scenario?

 

[Lonewarrior]

What weapon would you integrate on it?

2x SAAW (for precision/HVT strike); or
6x Hellfire (for anti-armour); or
6x Helina (for anti-armour); or
12x Grad HE Warhead (for general purpose)

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Let me give you two scenario.

1- You build a drone to carry payload of 5 kg, but after all it came up that it has to carry a payload of 10kg.

2- You build a drone to carry a payload of 20 kg, but it came up that the payload is just 5 kg.


So what you think regarding this two scenario?

I would rather have scenario 2 if I had to choose

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

2x SAAW (for precision/HVT strike); or
6x Hellfire (for anti-armour); or
6x Helina (for anti-armour); or
12x Grad HE Warhead (for general purpose)

Hellfire is murican right?

 

[Lonewarrior]

Hellfire is murican right?

Yup
And of all the air launched ATGMs in our inventory, Hellfire is the most abundant one. We ordered quite a good number of them with AH-64s

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Yup
And of all the air launched ATGMs in our inventory, Hellfire is the most abundant one. We ordered quite a good number of them with AH-64s

That's great would be a great addition to archer ng whenever it comes

 

[Raj Malhotra]

View attachment 209917

PDC is expected to be completed by July 2023.

Seems there are 12 version of Nirbhay

Army would be surface launch
IAF should be air launch
Navy would be ship, submarine launch ( 4 versions)

Seeker would be RF, EO, IR

So 4*3=12

RF seeker for land target and anti ship are normally different. So there can be more versions

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Amm what?

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[Lonewarrior]

Seems there are 12 version of Nirbhay

Army would be surface launch
IAF should be air launch
Navy would be ship, submarine launch ( 4 versions)

Seeker would be RF, EO, IR

So 4*3=12

RF seeker for land target and anti ship are normally different. So there can be more versions

> Air Force would use air dropped; base variant
> Army would use surface launched; not a variant but a modification (base variant + booster)
> Navy would use surface launched; same as Army
> Navy would use torpedo tube launched; different variant

Total 3 launching variants

> EO and IR are not different. EO is a broader term meaning anything using a photosensor and IR, IIR, CCD are all it's subcategories
> These kind of missiles tend to have four different kinds of guidance in a single seeker; GPS for cruise, RF for terrain hugging, EO for scene matching and INS in case GPS gets messed up.

Total 1 seeker type

> RF seeker for land target and anti-ship are not same; Ruskies are successfully using Yakhont from anti-ship costal defence batteries to strike land target in Ukraine.
> No one is dumb enough to use a slow and fat-a** missile like Nirbhay in anti-ship role. It's neither fast like BrahMos nor stealth like LRASM. Even US retired Tomahawks from AShM role.

Again 1 seeker type

3 launch variants, each with all four guidance method and either of three warhead types (unitary, nuclear, sub-munition).

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[jai jaganath]

 

[Lonewarrior]

Wut iz dis behaviour German Human Rights Commission!?