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[BlackViking]

5 kg Aashirwad aata. Let's drop it in that country and then see the mayhem.

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[TopWatcher]

Lagta hai hum drone nahin bana pa rahe hai.

Sometimes i feel why we not able to make jet engines/drone/aircraft but able to send satellites/lander to space. Very weird.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Lagta hai hum drone nahin bana pa rahe hai.

Sometimes i feel why we not able to make jet engines/drone/aircraft but able to send satellites/lander to space. Very weird.

Why is you so good at "xyz" but your neighbour doesn't know sh*t about "abc"!?

> Making rockets and landing vehicles on Mars are way easier than making a turbofan engine that's safe enough to operate just few meters away from passenger for hundreds of fligh hours. Germany was flying liquid fuelled rockets way before their first turbojet engine.
> Jet engine and rocket or Defence and Astronomy for that matter are not incremental fields, like you first develope defence R&D to its fullest and then proceed for space R&D...they are just interlinked.
> As an organisation ISRO is way more innovation driven than any other government R&D wing. Period

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Lagta hai hum drone nahin bana pa rahe hai.

Sometimes i feel why we not able to make jet engines/drone/aircraft but able to send satellites/lander to space. Very weird.

We can make drone, no problem. Problem is making drone with specific specs, low cost, low program budget, easy maintenance, long term reliability and so on.

 

[TopWatcher]

Why is you so good at "xyz" but your neighbour doesn't know sh*t about "abc"!?

> Making rockets and landing vehicles on Mars are way easier than making a turbofan engine that's safe enough to operate just few meters away from passenger for hundreds of fligh hours. Germany was flying liquid fuelled rockets way before their first turbojet engine.
> Jet engine and rocket or Defence and Astronomy for that matter are not incremental fields, like you first develope defence R&D to its fullest and then proceed for space R&D...they are just interlinked.
> As an organisation ISRO is way more innovation driven than any other government R&D wing. Period

As we know HAL building jet engines inhouse for Sukhoi 30 MKI for many years but still we not learnt to build jet engines.

 

[TopWatcher]

We can make drone, no problem. Problem is making drone with specific specs, low cost, low program budget, easy maintenance, long term reliability and so on.

You are right, problem is why we buying predator drone from US ? Rustom drone cant do that task.

 

[Lonewarrior]

building

Assembling, assembling is the word

 

[TopWatcher]

Assembling, assembling is the word

At least we can reverse engineer that.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Assembling, assembling is the word

They have repeatedly quoted "from raw material stage"... that seems to indicate it is manufacturing, not assembling.

 

[Lonewarrior]

They have repeatedly quoted "from raw material stage"... that seems to indicate it is manufacturing, not assembling.

It is impossible that on one hand they're making engines from ground up and on other looking for consultation from foreign firms to develop one.

No doubt they're making parts from raw material, but I don't think that's true for all the subcomponents or at least the core

 

[TopWatcher]

It is impossible that on one hand they're making engines from ground up and on other looking for consultation from foreign firms to develop one.

No doubt they're making parts from raw material, but I don't think that's true for all the subcomponents or at least the core

That's the fakeness comes here. It means they are doing screwdriving only. They have a book of configuration, so they just make parts with that specification and assembled it. Then why they saying manufacturing.

 

[Lonewarrior]

You are right, problem is why we buying predator drone from US ? Rustom drone cant do that task.

Definitely it can do. Not just that but it can do that in a fraction of what Reapers would need. But not as of now

Until we start churning out UAVs like Turkiye, we need something. Our P-8I fleet is overburdened and will reach their service life way sooner if we continue using them this frequently

 

[binayak95]

It is impossible that on one hand they're making engines from ground up and on other looking for consultation from foreign firms to develop one.

No doubt they're making parts from raw material, but I don't think that's true for all the subcomponents or at least the core

As much as I know HAL - there are groups within the organization that are driven and passionate - and without fail, are squashed flat by a moronic management that refuses to move out of their comfort zone

HAL has refined and bettered the titanium fabrication process for the blades of the AL31F, they perfected the Jaguar landing gear (which BAe stole - there was a huge court case back in the day) and yet the management doesnt allow these things to progress any further.

 

[jai jaganath]

That's the fakeness comes here. It means they are doing screwdriving only. They have a book of configuration, so they just make parts with that specification and assembled it. Then why they saying manufacturing.

This raw material stage ToT is again a jumla
They will manufacture many parts infact maximum here but that's not even an iota of critical tech
Core will come directly from USA and even necessary critical parts required for it will also come from USA
Coming to 100% ToT it could be assembling tech or manufacturing tech or other unnecessary terms

 

[Lonewarrior]

As much as I know HAL - there are groups within the organization that are driven and passionate - and without fail, are squashed flat by a moronic management that refuses to move out of their comfort zone

HAL has refined and bettered the titanium fabrication process for the blades of the AL31F, they perfected the Jaguar landing gear (which BAe stole - there was a huge court case back in the day) and yet the management doesnt allow these things to progress any further.

Spoiler

There is a reason why Soviet Union used to make its factories compete with each other despite all being owned by the government itself.

 

[TopWatcher]

I know everything cant make in India but India should master jet engine technology as soon as possible.

 

[Lonewarrior]

I know everything cant make in India but India should master jet engine technology as soon as possible.

Not happening, Manohar Parrikar is dead now

 

[TopWatcher]

Not happening, Manohar Parrikar is dead now

That man was the hope.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

You are right, problem is why we buying predator drone from US ? Rustom drone cant do that task.

Ones Hale and ones male both of different class predator will fly at higher altitude for a longer period so this buy is justified as long as we don't have a Hale project and hell our Hale project hasn't even kicked off yet it's just a plan for now

 

[Fatalis]

So it seems, BEL will be developing Variable Depth Towed Array Sonar for IN based on product of DRDO. Anyone having more insight on this?