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It's funny how one lone firm can go so far as taking special care of soft-mushy boobies and the other firm is making this abomination after collaborating with DRDO...
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Anyways, as for a better BPJ here you have one from MKU with combined vest and backpack. Comes with quick release system too
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The DRDO one may provide better coverage, but it is clear from the design that the designers had zero clue what they were doing.
 

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The DRDO one may provide better coverage, but it is clear from the design that the designers had zero clue what they were doing.
Not really, those additional protection pads are usually not included in vests coz they are either of no use or hamper mobility.

You think yourself, a 7.62x39mm bullet hitting someone in the nuts Vs a 7.62x39mm bullet hitting a floppy piece of Kevlar and transferring all the energy to the nuts...would there be any considerable difference!?
I mean except for the texture of red paste that would be left behind

Further more, you can attach neck, shoulder, groin and side protecting pads in almost all modern BPJs if you require so, coz all of them are modular in nature.
 

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Not really, those additional protection pads are usually not included in vests coz they are either of no use or hamper mobility.

You think yourself, a 7.62x39mm bullet hitting someone in the nuts Vs a 7.62x39mm bullet hitting a floppy piece of Kevlar and transferring all the energy to the nuts...would there be any considerable difference!?
I mean except for the texture of red paste that would be left behind

Further more, you can attach neck, shoulder, groin and side protecting pads in almost all modern BPJs if you require so, coz all of them are modular in nature.
I'm well aware of all that. Moving on, when it comes to safeguarding the family jewels from the blunt force trauma of bullet, do you reckon incorporating something like this in addition to a bulletproof flap could provide some assistance?
 
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Fregat radar is currently present on 12 of our warships. It will also be on the 4 upcoming frigates. It is there for Shtil missile system but as we move forward towards the VL-SRSAM, what can be the possible replacement for the Fregat radar?
 

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Fregat radar is currently present on 12 of our warships. It will also be on the 4 upcoming frigates. It is there for Shtil missile system but as we move forward towards the VL-SRSAM, what can be the possible replacement for the Fregat radar?
If I'm not wrong then Fregat are simple surface search radar that provides targetting data to the Shtil "system", they themselves are not targetting radar.
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So as long as you have those 3K92E1 radar illuminators you can use very much any good 3D radar to fire Shtil missiles.

Coming to VL-SRSAM, it's way way more advanced than Shtil. One, it has onboard datalink and probably the most important, it's active radar homing not semi-active like Shtil or Buk where you need an illuminator to constantly focus on a target.

We can use virtually any radar to guide the missile using datalink and then switching to active-seeking as soon as its onboard radar seeker detects the target.

Edit : You asked about Fregat's replacement too. Sorry, missed that
We recently signed for Lanza-N radar, those can pretty well be the replacement. Rather they're better in almost all criteria, from range to weight
 
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Alright, listen up. Here's the deal. As AI systems become increasingly sophisticated and powerful, and as big tech companies inevitably embrace them more and more, fresh CS graduates will face a progressively growing challenge in landing their dream jobs. And honestly, this isn't just limited to the software industry. If the current trend continues, AI has the potential to disrupt every sector out there. But let's be real, we're probably looking at least a decade down the road for that kind of scenario.
Haha, here is the issue,
Question is about 5 to10 years, you crossed that limit
not all CS graduates gets their dream jobs.

Right now, there is a necessity of CS graduates to develop that sophisticated and powerful AI s/m and they need fresh CS graduates for at least 1.5 decade
AI will disrupt every sector, from top to bottom & bottom to top, its a major issues for near future CS graduates, but not present & until AI mature enough to handle itself
second issue- big tech companies, how many big company are there today & future, how many coders work for these big tech companies today.
I had seen graduates refusing these big tech companies[80lpa] for civil exam/jobs - only few dream for these big tech companies & very very few get selected
The issue is- you giving importance to == dream jobs in big tech companies today & neglecting the fact that at that time entire CS curriculum also changes to improve chances for getting - dream jobs in big tech companies In future there will be new courses & maybe AI eats up a large portion of IT sector jobs. Yes, we will see some small scenario in this decade, and it will give some hints about future. You also see groups against and supportive of these development, including gov [I thought you talking about those who getting fired - today they can easily find a new job, but in near future it becomes very difficult] Lots of people learned dos for top CS jobs in big tech companies, when they approached these companies, HMR said, they only need people with C knowledge
 

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Alright, listen up. Here's the deal. As AI systems become increasingly sophisticated and powerful, and as big tech companies inevitably embrace them more and more, fresh CS graduates will face a progressively growing challenge in landing their dream jobs. And honestly, this isn't just limited to the software industry. If the current trend continues, AI has the potential to disrupt every sector out there. But let's be real, we're probably looking at least a decade down the road for that kind of scenario.
Yes, we will see some small scenario in this decade, and it will give some hints about future. You also see groups against and supportive of these development, including gov [I thought you talking about those who getting fired - today they can easily find a new job, but in near future it becomes very difficult] Lots of people learned dos for top CS jobs in big tech companies, when they approached these companies, HMR said, they only need people with C knowledge
Question to both of you - what are govs going to do if a lot of people are unemployed? How are these companies who fire all the people going to make money? A lot of people are made unemployed and their living conditions are worse. How are govs going to get tax? This is going to be affecting all countries.
 

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Question to both of you - what are govs going to do if a lot of people are unemployed? How are these companies who fire all the people going to make money, if a lot of people are unemployed and their living conditions are worse? How are govs going to get tax? This is going to be affecting all countries.
Not all, but few- some gain &, some lose -
gov - if you want to do business in here then create x no.of jobs & create laws to reduce AI usage in multiple fields - gov also demand tax from products & services in receptive countries
 

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Never thought I would see a BPJ with it from a PSU.
Trust me, you're not seeing one
I'm quite sure what MIDHANI did was make that ceramic plate, that's their field of expertise. How can they even make a vest!?

That vest is most probably outsourced from someone else. Maybe even imported

Edit : Main jeet gaya 😎

As I had guessed, they only made the ceramic insert not the vest. The vest is from an Israeli firm by the name Source Tactical Gear.
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If I'm not wrong then Fregat are simple surface search radar that provides targetting data to the Shtil "system", they themselves are not targetting radar.
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So as long as you have those 3K92E1 radar illuminators you can use very much any good 3D radar to fire Shtil missiles.

Coming to VL-SRSAM, it's way way more advanced than Shtil. One, it has onboard datalink and probably the most important, it's active radar homing not semi-active like Shtil or Buk where you need an illuminator to constantly focus on a target.

We can use virtually any radar to guide the missile using datalink and then switching to active-seeking as soon as its onboard radar seeker detects the target.

Edit : You asked about Fregat's replacement too. Sorry, missed that
We recently signed for Lanza-N radar, those can pretty well be the replacement. Rather they're better in almost all criteria, from range to weight
"Indra is currently installing its naval version, Lanza-N 3D, on one of the Indian Navy’s destroyer ship, beginning the delivery of the 23 radars that it will provide to the Indian Navy over the next decade."

Apparently these will be equipped to 23 ships.
So far I have the 7 P-15s and 7 P-17s down for the upgrade but not sure about the other 9.
 

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If I'm not wrong then Fregat are simple surface search radar that provides targetting data to the Shtil "system", they themselves are not targetting radar.
View attachment 207520
So as long as you have those 3K92E1 radar illuminators you can use very much any good 3D radar to fire Shtil missiles.

Coming to VL-SRSAM, it's way way more advanced than Shtil. One, it has onboard datalink and probably the most important, it's active radar homing not semi-active like Shtil or Buk where you need an illuminator to constantly focus on a target.

We can use virtually any radar to guide the missile using datalink and then switching to active-seeking as soon as its onboard radar seeker detects the target.

Edit : You asked about Fregat's replacement too. Sorry, missed that
We recently signed for Lanza-N radar, those can pretty well be the replacement. Rather they're better in almost all criteria, from range to weight
Just a thought but how would the Talwar-class stack up against Pakistan's the new Tughril-class if we upgrade it with Lanza-N and VL-SRSAM?
Is the LY-80N just a Chinese Shtil?
Seems like 10 upgraded Talwars would be a useful second line frigate for region operations if the upgrade isn't too expensive.
 
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Question to both of you - what are govs going to do if a lot of people are unemployed? How are these companies who fire all the people going to make money? A lot of people are made unemployed and their living conditions are worse. How are govs going to get tax? This is going to be affecting all countries.
If that scenario ever becomes a reality, we will have no choice but to embrace Sam Aultman's Universal Basic Income scheme or something along those lines. AI has the potential to become the ultimate equalizer.
 

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Just a thought but how would the Talwar-class stack up against Pakistan's the new Tughril-class if we upgrade it with Lanza-N and VL-SRSAM?
If we upgrade all Talwars with BrahMos then it would be quite a close competition in terms of types of armaments; as some number would be more on Talwar and some on Tughril.

But ultimately Lanza-N will have a slight edge in terms of range, so Talwar might fire its BrahMos before Tughril can engage with CM-302. Also we have double the AShM load.
Is the LY-80N just a Chinese Shtil?
Yup, kinda
 

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