DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[Vamsi]

India's first military grade scramjet engine based hypersonic cruise missile, based on HSTDV technology demonstrator

But that cruise vehicle looks more like Zircon than HSTDV

 

[Gyyan]

 

[jai jaganath]

But that cruise vehicle looks more like Zircon than HSTDV
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I think few designs in the world have to be made in a similar way
I mean few things have to have a same design to be functional

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

I think few designs in the world have to be made in a similar way
I mean few things have to have a same design to be functional

Even if it's copy of zircon doesn't matter the question is is it official

 

[WarmongerLSK]

BC hame koi TOT nahi deta, par hame sabko dena hai? Pehle thode sales tho karle, 20 saal ho jaye, tab jake TOT denge.

 

[SilentlAssassin265]

BC hame koi TOT nahi deta, par hame sabko dena hai? Pehle thode sales tho karle, 20 saal ho jaye, tab jake TOT denge.

Why Egypt even need this? the only enemy they have is sudan, who barely has any modern army

 

[Gyyan]

Do read the full article or whatever of the article is available.

 

[pankaj nema]

This is Not Going to Happen

Israel will oppose it And we cannot Antagonise Israel

Israel and Egypt have a Common Border

 

[Samasa]

BC hame koi TOT nahi deta, par hame sabko dena hai? Pehle thode sales tho karle, 20 saal ho jaye, tab jake TOT denge.

For that a export version which does nt violate MTCR treaty has to be developed . Like Iskandar - E .

 

[vishnugupt]

This is Not Going to Happen

Israel will oppose it And we cannot Antagonise Israel

Israel and Egypt have a Common Border

Israel and Egypt has peace treaty. They have no conflict on border.

 

[NeXoft007]

Will never gonna happen.

 

[Blademaster]

Why Egypt even need this? the only enemy they have is sudan, who barely has any modern army

I agree. I don't think Israel would sit for this.

 

[charlie]

After looking at the amount of re-badged weaponry on display at DefExpo 2022 by the private sector, there is zero doubt as to why these people don't get funding.
Even for something as big as Indian Navy 111 NUH program, the pvt sector was more interested in tying up with foreign vendors rather than develop something of their own.

well that is going to be there if government does not allocate fund for research for private sector, PSU can wait 20 years to get an order private will go out of business if it has to wait that long hence you see off the shelf products.

look at the hand holding government did for HAL, even after getting experience from ALH, LUH took so much time and I read in one of the reports that one of the delay was because software was not encrypted. How can a serious mistake like that happen and I don't know if any heads were rolled !

Indian navy 111 NUH government never wanted an home grown design as they knew it was not feasible by private sector as no funds or the time being allocated towards the designing of it.

they were just promising the quantity to buy, it’s a huge risk for private to come with that kind of money when you are not sure that your design will be selected for production and neither private industry had experience designing one, but it would have given them some experience in manufacturing one for sure even though if it would have been a foreign design.

let’s not have unrealistic expectation, but what the government spent on all this years on PSU if certain percentage was allocated to private industry they would have much better outcome.

and dont get me wrong it’s the same people who works at Hal will work in the private industry with a better salary but with better output. The talent remains the same it’s just working environment changes.

Not against the PSU but they are huge and heavy dinosaur, not lean and mean like the private sector of today, even US private sector companies in defence were huge and productive but even then they went through consolidation.

Defence Secretary Robert McNamara is the one who started consolidating in US and William Perry continued it in 1990’s

1998 https://www.gao.gov/assets/t-nsiad-98-112.pdf

2022 https://media.defense.gov/2022/Feb/...TITION-WITHIN-THE-DEFENSE-INDUSTRIAL-BASE.PDF

 

[jai jaganath]

This is most stupid account always or mostly writing without any source
Matlab kuch bhi

 

[NeXoft007]

well that is going to be there if government does not allocate fund for research for private sector, PSU can wait 20 years to get an order private will go out of business if it has to wait that long hence you see off the shelf products.

look at the hand holding government did for HAL, even after getting experience from ALH, LUH took so much time and I read in one of the reports that one of the delay was because software was not encrypted. How can a serious mistake like that happen and I don't know if any heads were rolled !

Indian navy 111 NUH government never wanted an home grown design as they knew it was not feasible by private sector as no funds or the time being allocated towards the designing of it.

they were just promising the quantity to buy, it’s a huge risk for private to come with that kind of money when you are not sure that your design will be selected for production and neither private industry had experience designing one, but it would have given them some experience in manufacturing one for sure even though if it would have been a foreign design.

let’s not have unrealistic expectation, but what the government spent on all this years on PSU if certain percentage was allocated to private industry they would have much better outcome.

and dont get me wrong it’s the same people who works at Hal will work in the private industry with a better salary but with better output. The talent remains the same it’s just working environment changes.

Not against the PSU but they are huge and heavy dinosaur, not lean and mean like the private sector of today, even US private sector companies in defence were huge and productive but even then they went through consolidation.

Defence Secretary Robert McNamara is the one who started consolidating in US and William Perry continued it in 1990’s

1998 https://www.gao.gov/assets/t-nsiad-98-112.pdf

2022 https://media.defense.gov/2022/Feb/...TITION-WITHIN-THE-DEFENSE-INDUSTRIAL-BASE.PDF

HAL is actively working with their partners to modify Dhruv to comply with the IN's NUH specs. Folded main rotors and tail rotors are the key requirements. And once Flight certification is done, IN will order 111 of these in tranches. Huge export potential as well.

 

[jai jaganath]

HAL is actively working with their partners to modify Dhruv to comply with the IN's NUH specs. Folded main rotors and tail rotors are the key requirements. And once Flight certification is done, IN will order 111 of these in tranches. Huge export potential as well.

Can u guess the timeline of this entire process
I mean Navy hastily needs NUH

 

[NeXoft007]

Can u guess the timeline of this entire process
I mean Navy hastily needs NUH

Hoping for updates next month at Aero India '23.

 

[Marliii]

This is most stupid account always or mostly writing without any source
Matlab kuch bhi

There is some newspaper article that is the source.he only reports it and also they are not entitled to give "source" for things they report.its upto you to either believe to or not

 

[NeXoft007]

This is most stupid account always or mostly writing without any source
Matlab kuch bhi

I can vouch his account is amongst the best for geopolitics, military updates for Indian Audience.

 

[Arihant Roy]

Wishing my fellow posters Happy Makar Sankranti .

Here's an awesome poster from DRDL. Do feast your eyes and relish every bit of it.

Pay close attention to SLRCM and HSTDV.

Supersonic Long range cruise missile is an enlarged upscaled , modified STAR missile mated to a solid booster. It's liquid fuelled ramjet missile ensures it has a greater than Mach 2.0 speed throughout the flight trajectory making it much complicated for the defender to detect and intercept this missile.

And then there's HSTDV. Gives Zircon vibes which itself looks similar to X-51A Waverider. Our hypersonic cruise missile Project , Vishnu is further along the R&D path than most people realise.

We have truly become Atmanirbhar.