DRDO, PSU and Private Defence Sector News

[dfcool]

Guys read this & you will know what exactly is wrong with our defence ecosystem.
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"Mr. Pandey, you are absolutely wrong. It is more than 90% of the DRDO manpower which is involved in Project Management. If you see the realization and even production supply and customer clearance of big Projects like MRSAM for Air Force (being done by RCI-Hyderabad), Air Borne Early Warning Radar (being done by CABBS), PINAKA system (being done by ARDE Pune) are some of the examples where the Production/Delivery to the User is also done by DRDO Labs. Apart from that most of the DRDO is involved in realization and proving (including long duration of field trials) of first off systems of Missile, Radars etc. Hence, an organization which should be doing design, simulation and analysis of latest and future generation systems and concentrating on Future Technologies is only busy in procurement, fabrication, quality control, testing, field trials and customer clearance of prototype systems".

This para sums it all up. Its like an "All hats & no cattles" type situation.

DRDO is great for product development, but atleast from prototype fabrication, we need a corporate body. Because apparently the Sub systems suppliers treat DPSUs as 'cash cow's' & try to milk the most out of these sarkari agencies.

NDA has done a great job in reducing corruption in Defence procurement. But we need bigger reforms in our weapons development & procurement process, this bureaucratic red tapism is killing our defence industry. Tejas M2, AMCA all have fallen prey to the same problem.

what is the source of images, any book or report? or just self published on twitter.

 

[Jambudweepa]

what is the source of images, any book or report? or just self published on twitter.

He describes himself as ex general manager of bharat electronics ltd .

And , i am not sure if the following news is associated with him . As there is a MM pandey mentioned in the article . Only he can conform .

Delhi High Court revokes suspension of BEL whistleblowers

The officials have exposed the alleged irregularities in a multi-crore project

www.google.com

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

Guys read this & you will know what exactly is wrong with our defence ecosystem.
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"Mr. Pandey, you are absolutely wrong. It is more than 90% of the DRDO manpower which is involved in Project Management. If you see the realization and even production supply and customer clearance of big Projects like MRSAM for Air Force (being done by RCI-Hyderabad), Air Borne Early Warning Radar (being done by CABBS), PINAKA system (being done by ARDE Pune) are some of the examples where the Production/Delivery to the User is also done by DRDO Labs. Apart from that most of the DRDO is involved in realization and proving (including long duration of field trials) of first off systems of Missile, Radars etc. Hence, an organization which should be doing design, simulation and analysis of latest and future generation systems and concentrating on Future Technologies is only busy in procurement, fabrication, quality control, testing, field trials and customer clearance of prototype systems".

This para sums it all up. Its like an "All hats & no cattles" type situation.

DRDO is great for product development, but atleast from prototype fabrication, we need a corporate body. Because apparently the Sub systems suppliers treat DPSUs as 'cash cow's' & try to milk the most out of these sarkari agencies.

NDA has done a great job in reducing corruption in Defence procurement. But we need bigger reforms in our weapons development & procurement process, this bureaucratic red tapism is killing our defence industry. Tejas M2, AMCA all have fallen prey to the same problem.

Is it ATAGS Program went on to DRDO-Private partnership? You can see some design changes done in TATA and BF variants. DRDO slowly started to move on that phase for some time. They transferred the tech of Pinaka to EEL and now EEL also working on extended range rockets for Pinaka. Current issue with Indian Weapons Development is lot of products, platforms are completed trials and for unknown reason they are not ordered. Even Ordering a small arms becoming a herculean task for Armed Forces nowadays.

I don't know guys when was a last major large foreign deal was signed, MMRCA came nothing happened, P75I is on indefinite delay, LPD got delayed too, in the end nothing happened to any of Indian Army RFI to foreign vendors. Only C295 happened though IL214 got axed.

I am blackpilled and almost sure that nothing will happen to MRFA unless MoD wants a private player into aircraft manufacturing and not withstating the fact that the first plane won't be out of Indian factory before 2030 if it happens at all, putting all reasonable doubts on inducting a 4+gen plane in face of Tejas mk2 mwf.

Sometimes I think if there is even a sense of urgency in MRFA and all this drama of urgency is utter sham, apparently the RFP is to be out somewhere near 2024 and God knows if it will even reach deal signing. Only things that seems achievable are indigenous projects and yet I don't know why people are so optimistic about MRFA.

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The recent 'JV' is basically MRFA calling. First, we need foreign tech and then we need foreign jet. We will just need years to get access to source code to do changes. They will not allow you during production phase. For them we are customer and sell it. And the so-called Offset. Last year I came across a news where LM made to pay fine since they failed to do Offset contracts for the purchase of C-130 Hercules. So, we are chasing them for a product bought decade back.

 

[mist_consecutive]

People making fun of ACM Chaudhari is hilarious, first, you misinterpret what he says, then try to show your superior keyboard warrior knowledge gathered from reading a few news articles and Twitter videos, pitying a person who literally is the Air Chief of 4th strongest Air Force in the world

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

People making fun of ACM Chaudhari is hilarious, first, you misinterpret what he says, then try to show your superior keyboard warrior knowledge gathered from reading a few news articles and Twitter videos, pitying a person who literally is the Air Chief of 4th strongest Air Force in the world

Sorry shaktiman

 

[Fatalis]

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Hoping we will get some serious updates on our projects

 

[karn]

Hoping we will get some serious updates on our projects

If they roll out Tejas mk2 by then I'll ask my gf to marry me .. cause anything is possible at that point .

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

If they roll out Tejas mk2 by then I'll ask my gf to marry me .. cause anything is possible at that point .

Bookmarking this msg

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

If they roll out Tejas mk2 by then I'll ask my gf to marry me .. cause anything is possible at that point .

You should propose your GF before the Tejas MK2 prototype and post it here.

 

[SavageKing456]

Old but gold video
Have already said that bigger version of CATS is also under development
Little smaller one prototype is developed for sure

 

[The Shrike]

just me or does this company seem all PR and no substance .

It's a small company and that's probably all they can develop with the funding they have, they'll probably need 10's of millions $ to make those CGI vehicles reality.
Can't blame them really, we are also smoking Kuntal, Harshal's CGI images hopium for Tejas Mk-2, AMCA etc at this point.

 

[Suryavanshi]

If they roll out Tejas mk2 by then I'll ask my gf to marry me .. cause anything is possible at that point .

 

[Alamarathan]

I know idrw credibility is not that great but this news is bit interesting to ignore it,

DRDO plans to work on a new air-to-air missile
Published November 28, 2022 | By admin
SOURCE: RAUNAK KUNDE / NEWS BEAT / IDRW.ORG

ASTRA MK1
The Defense Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) plans to develop a new air-to-air missile that will have a range greater than the present (Astra Mk2) but will have a similar range to the air-breathing ramjet air-to-air missile (Astra Mk3 ) that is under development. Air-breathing ramjet propulsion beats traditional solid fuel in terms of range but is too costly to acquire in large numbers.

DRDO plans to develop a new air-to-air missile that has traditional solid fuel propulsion but with a wider dimension that will allow it to reach the 280km+ mark while costing half as much that could have cost for an Air-breathing ramjet propulsion BVRAAM.

DRDO already has developed Astra Mk1 with a range of 110km and Astra Mk2 with a range of 160km which is pending trials and is working on Astra Mk3, which has a range of 340km for targets such as AWACS/Tankers/FRA. Astra Mk2 uses a Dual-Pulse motor and Mk3 uses an Air-breathing ramjet propulsion motor. DRDO plans to use develop a Multi-Pulse Motor (MPM) solid-propellant rocket motor that will allow three or more pulses on a single motor to achieve such range while keeping unit cost on the lower side.

DRDO plans to work on a new air-to-air missile – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Yayy small numbers but its something probably for para sf

 

[Chinmoy]

I know idrw credibility is not that great but this news is bit interesting to ignore it,

DRDO plans to work on a new air-to-air missile
Published November 28, 2022 | By admin
SOURCE: RAUNAK KUNDE / NEWS BEAT / IDRW.ORG

ASTRA MK1
The Defense Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) plans to develop a new air-to-air missile that will have a range greater than the present (Astra Mk2) but will have a similar range to the air-breathing ramjet air-to-air missile (Astra Mk3 ) that is under development. Air-breathing ramjet propulsion beats traditional solid fuel in terms of range but is too costly to acquire in large numbers.

DRDO plans to develop a new air-to-air missile that has traditional solid fuel propulsion but with a wider dimension that will allow it to reach the 280km+ mark while costing half as much that could have cost for an Air-breathing ramjet propulsion BVRAAM.

DRDO already has developed Astra Mk1 with a range of 110km and Astra Mk2 with a range of 160km which is pending trials and is working on Astra Mk3, which has a range of 340km for targets such as AWACS/Tankers/FRA. Astra Mk2 uses a Dual-Pulse motor and Mk3 uses an Air-breathing ramjet propulsion motor. DRDO plans to use develop a Multi-Pulse Motor (MPM) solid-propellant rocket motor that will allow three or more pulses on a single motor to achieve such range while keeping unit cost on the lower side.

DRDO plans to work on a new air-to-air missile – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

Triple pulse motor.

Already discussed.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Yayy small numbers but its something probably for para sf

More good news soon happy to know sss is being trusted makes me hopeful for there snipers and carbines

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Does france have any competent uavs that we wanna work the french with?

 

[NotASussyBoi]

Yayy small numbers but its something probably for para sf

huh signs of army prefering indian mods over israelis?

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

huh signs of army prefering indian mods over israelis?

Definately probably way cheaper than fab ones too