DEFEXPO-2022

[pipebomb]

Key takeaways from DEFEXPO-2022

The CVRDE-designed & L & T-built Zorawar Light Tank will have a combat weight of 27.5 tonnes, will be powered by the very same 1,000hp MTU/RENK powerpack that is used by the K-9 Vajra tracked 155mm/52-cal SPH, and will have a power-to-weight ratio of almost 30hp/tonne. The turret will be totally unmanned & the crew complement of 3 will be seated in the hull.

Has CVRDE confirmed this

 

[Fatalis]

Mobility issues with 6 launcher configuration.

Damn.

First flight of Prahar in 2010s and finding out the mobility issue in 2022.

Also, what happened to the Pranash missile? Is it still on the table or shelved?

 

[Akula]

Can anyone confirm this?

udti udti khabar aayi... 2 different variants of ATAGS MGS are being exhibited: one from Kalyani Group using the BEML armoured high-mobility vehicle (HMV) & the other by TATA using a TATA-developed HMV.

Anyone got pics of the TATA truck MGS?

I think TATA has displayed a small model of MGS.

 

[Fatalis]

Can anyone confirm this?

udti udti khabar aayi... 2 different variants of ATAGS MGS are being exhibited: one from Kalyani Group using the BEML armoured high-mobility vehicle (HMV) & the other by TATA using a TATA-developed HMV.

Anyone got pics of the TATA truck MGS?

Is this the one?

 

[thebakofbakchod]

so is garuda aerospace actually going to produce the drones here or going to pass of chini drones as their own again? someone should have asked them this

 

[Tiwariji]

so is garuda aerospace actually going to produce the drones here or going to pass of chini drones as their own again? someone should have asked them this

Dont know but they are benificiary of PLI scheme . And had got export order of 12000 drones .

 

[ezsasa]

Manpack Software defined radios for IA and accessories didn't show up at defexpo?
have been curious about how the form factor will look like.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

Not sure ...WhAP mostly excels in anti-IED & anti-mines. To bed allover STANAG IV without those composites it'll be 35tons at is massive size.

Check one of the poster of Whap someone posted before, it's written STANAG level 4 all around there and tbh 14.5mm ap protection is basic for apcs nowadays

 

[flanker99]

so is garuda aerospace actually going to produce the drones here or going to pass of chini drones as their own again? someone should have asked them this

Makes sense there vajra drone that they are peddling is most likely fully made by LM and they will just be assembling those here...forces would be wise not to trust them

 

[Arihant Roy]

Key takeaways from DEFEXPO-2022

While the Rudram-1 NG-ARM is meant for destroying X-band target engagement radars of ground-based SHORADS, the Rudram-2 NG-ARM is meant for neutralising the L-band & S-band gapfiller radars of MR-SAM systems. The Rudram-3 ARM is meant for destroying the low-band long-range airspace surveillance radars. Hence, HQ-17A-type SHORADS will be destroyed by Rudram-1, while the LY-80E LOMADS will be destroyed by Rudram-2 & LR-SAMs like HQ-9 HIMADS will be destroyed by Rudram-3.

The Prahaar SS-BSM will be used for engaging time-urgent targets like ground-based formation HQs. Each Prahaar Regiment will comprise 14 high-mobility vehicles each carrying 2 Prahaar SS-BSMs inside cannisters, or 28 missiles per Regiment. They will replace the existing Prithvi SS-150s in the three IA Missile Groups.

The Pralay SS-BSM, on the other hand, will be employed for destroying ammunition depots located within the hinterland in Pakistan’s case, and ammo depots in rear-areas in China’s case. BrahMos-1 SS-BSMs will be reserved for very high-end targets like politico-military HQs & strategic bridges & railway nodes.

The CVRDE-designed & L & T-built Zorawar Light Tank will have a combat weight of 27.5 tonnes, will be powered by the very same 1,000hp MTU/RENK powerpack that is used by the K-9 Vajra tracked 155mm/52-cal SPH, and will have a power-to-weight ratio of almost 30hp/tonne. The turret will be totally unmanned & the crew complement of 3 will be seated in the hull.

Given the demonstrated capabilities of Iran’s The Shahed-136/ASN-301 drone (a clone of the IAI Harpy), which is launched at a rate of five per target, both the IA & IAF need to go back to the drawing boards for procuring suitable cost-effective terminal air-defence systems. To this end, preferred choice is still the AK-630M six-barrelled CIWS integrated with an optronic fire-control system using an all-passive infra-red search-n-track sensor. In addition, far cheaper SHORADS SAMs need to be procured for shooting down such attack-drones as well as subsonic cruise missiles.

The A320 LRMR/MPA design configuration shown at the LRDE/CABS booth mistakenly shows it with IN markings. In fact, it is meant for the Indian Coast Guard & it will be the optimum long-range airborne surveillance/maritime patrolling platform for the ICGS within the IOR.

IAF-developed SAMAR air-defence system is just a conceptual technology demonstrator, with no production orders to be placed.

Pls stop posting from that nincompoop. He knows shit and always acts as if he's on the top of things with connections at all the right places.

1. ASN-301 isn't Shahed -136 or Geran -2. ASN-301 is a small drone which has hardly 200 km range with a much smaller payload. Shahed 136 is a much bigger ASN-301.

2. No on will except the Americans will use a 6 barrelled Gatling gun in a CRAM and counter UAS role coz it consumes a lot of ammo for each kill. That's why everyone uses either 35 mm of 40 mm programmable ammo. Russians are looking to use 57 mm rounds. IAF has already decided upon the L70 derived Sudarshan from L&T . So there's no scope for PK's brain farts.

3. Indian army hasn't placed any orders for either Prahaar of Pralay. It remains to be seen what will be the regiment composition and structure. And Brahmos will be used against a wide variety of targets from buried ammo depots and WMD storages to taking out bridges and other critical infrastructure .

4. NGARM aka Rudram -1 has two Passive homing head options- Low and high band. As a result it can cover any emitter from 1-18 GHz. It will also have a MMW seeker in the near future. So it will not be limited to striking X band engagement radars only.

5. Same is the case for Rudram -2. Can be used against a wide variety of radars from 1.2 to 18 GHz.

6. CVDRE designed Zorawar doesn't feature the chassis or hull of K-9. It's a brand new design.


Pls stop listening to what he says. He predicted us invading PoK and liberating many swathes with Air mobility for our troops being provided by USAAF and USMC assets including Ospreys.
What do we have now? Congress just approved the 450 million sustainment deal for Pakis F-16.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Meanwhile on r/IndianDefense people getting confused between Dhanush MGS and ATAGS MGS be like:-

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See? DRDO can't do anything, only private sector can lol.

Man this subreddit is a cesspool of idiots.
I used to visit this subreddit about 2 years ago when it was far better, now all idiots from r/india come to this subreddit

 

[Chinmoy]

@abingdonboy well if they are preparing for mk-2 I think mk-1 is not gonna make an appearance

The NAMICA with 8 missile configuration was Mk1. Mk2 is with 6 missile configuration.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Thank you for sharing these detailed takeaways. I think 6 Prahar missiles are carried in the launcher. Are you sure about just 2 missiles?

That is on the 12x12 Tata HMV, which js not really all that mobile given our terrain.
So they are planning to use the 8x8 HMV launcher instead which is capable of handling 2 missiles per truck.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Pls stop posting from that nincompoop. He knows shit and always acts as if he's on the top of things with connections at all the right places.

1. ASN-301 isn't Shahed -136 or Geran -2. ASN-301 is a small drone which has hardly 200 km range with a much smaller payload. Shahed 136 is a much bigger ASN-301.

2. No on will except the Americans will use a 6 barrelled Gatling gun in a CRAM and counter UAS role coz it consumes a lot of ammo for each kill. That's why everyone uses either 35 mm of 40 mm programmable ammo. Russians are looking to use 57 mm rounds. IAF has already decided upon the L70 derived Sudarshan from L&T . So there's no scope for PK's brain farts.

3. Indian army hasn't placed any orders for either Prahaar of Pralay. It remains to be seen what will be the regiment composition and structure. And Brahmos will be used against a wide variety of targets from buried ammo depots and WMD storages to taking out bridges and other critical infrastructure .

4. NGARM aka Rudram -1 has two Passive homing head options- Low and high band. As a result it can cover any emitter from 1-18 GHz. It will also have a MMW seeker in the near future. So it will not be limited to striking X band engagement radars only.

5. Same is the case for Rudram -2. Can be used against a wide variety of radars from 1.2 to 18 GHz.

6. CVDRE designed Zorawar doesn't feature the chassis or hull of K-9. It's a brand new design.


Pls stop listening to what he says. He predicted us invading PoK and liberating many swathes with Air mobility for our troops being provided by USAAF and USMC assets including Ospreys.
What do we have now? Congress just approved the 450 million sustainment deal for Pakis F-16.

Who is this guy we are talking about?

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Man this subreddit is a cesspool of idiots.
I used to visit this subreddit about 2 years ago when it was far better, now all idiots from r/india come to this subreddit

Sub is filled with liberals should see the comments sometimes and worst part most are kids who are active in simon says sub

 

[Love Charger]

Who is this guy we are talking about?

Let him be X

 

[binayak95]

Who is this guy we are talking about?

Prasun Sengupta, who has his own spy organisation XD
bhai saab aisi maal phunkne mujhe bhi miljaaye

 

[flanker99]

Pls stop posting from that nincompoop. He knows shit and always acts as if he's on the top of things with connections at all the right places.

1. ASN-301 isn't Shahed -136 or Geran -2. ASN-301 is a small drone which has hardly 200 km range with a much smaller payload. Shahed 136 is a much bigger ASN-301.

2. No on will except the Americans will use a 6 barrelled Gatling gun in a CRAM and counter UAS role coz it consumes a lot of ammo for each kill. That's why everyone uses either 35 mm of 40 mm programmable ammo. Russians are looking to use 57 mm rounds. IAF has already decided upon the L70 derived Sudarshan from L&T . So there's no scope for PK's brain farts.

3. Indian army hasn't placed any orders for either Prahaar of Pralay. It remains to be seen what will be the regiment composition and structure. And Brahmos will be used against a wide variety of targets from buried ammo depots and WMD storages to taking out bridges and other critical infrastructure .

4. NGARM aka Rudram -1 has two Passive homing head options- Low and high band. As a result it can cover any emitter from 1-18 GHz. It will also have a MMW seeker in the near future. So it will not be limited to striking X band engagement radars only.

5. Same is the case for Rudram -2. Can be used against a wide variety of radars from 1.2 to 18 GHz.

6. CVDRE designed Zorawar doesn't feature the chassis or hull of K-9. It's a brand new design.


Pls stop listening to what he says. He predicted us invading PoK and liberating many swathes with Air mobility for our troops being provided by USAAF and USMC assets including Ospreys.
What do we have now? Congress just approved the 450 million sustainment deal for Pakis F-16.

He writes for force magazine owned by u know who!..
Hint-worlds only grand admiral chief Marshall and field gernail

 

[Eagle Eye]

Let him be X

Let him be X

he writes in trishul blog...

 

[Vamsi]

brace for impact,more screwdrivers incoming