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[Mantospace]

No, they need to send these to India first: after all, there are 1.4 b living there but 0 on the mars.

Dont need.My sh** to these bat eaters.

 

[rockdog]

 

[SexyChineseLady]

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Worried about 10-foot robotic arm?

Wait till China begins building the Space Elevator!!!

China Shoots for Stars With Plans to Build Space Elevator by 2045

www.yicaiglobal.com

Chinese team says it has the key to building a space elevator. A what?

It may sound like science fiction, but the idea has been around for more than a century.

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[SexyChineseLady]

These chinki cunts just post these CCP space missions to gloat and boast only...

Let them do that...USSR did the same when they had money but in 90s their space scientists had to beg for daily wages

They even stole food packets meant for soviet space station resupply

I am sure CCP commie cunts are destined for the same

Using racial and misogynistic slurs will not change the fact that Chinese space activity is increasing at furious pace that is matched only by Americans.



And very unlike the Soviets, China has a huge private component!

China will go into the space business just like any other industry

China's private space industry is rapidly gaining ground on SpaceX

China now has around 100 private space companies. They're creating reusable rockets, sending payloads into orbit and quickly catching up with SpaceX

www.wired.co.uk

China’s surging private space industry is out to challenge the US

An explosion of space startups in China is supercharging tech innovation, opening new markets around the world, and expanding the country's influence.

www.technologyreview.com

China to construct commercial spaceport to support booming space industry - SpaceNews

China is to establish a commercial spaceport in the coming years to support the rapid growth of private space activities in the country.

spacenews.com

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[ketaki]

Using racial and misogynistic slurs will not change the fact that Chinese space activity is increasing at furious pace that is matched only by Americans.



And very unlike the Soviets, China has a huge private component!

China will go into the space business just like any other industry

China's private space industry is rapidly gaining ground on SpaceX

China now has around 100 private space companies. They're creating reusable rockets, sending payloads into orbit and quickly catching up with SpaceX

www.wired.co.uk

China’s surging private space industry is out to challenge the US

An explosion of space startups in China is supercharging tech innovation, opening new markets around the world, and expanding the country's influence.

www.technologyreview.com

China to construct commercial spaceport to support booming space industry - SpaceNews

China is to establish a commercial spaceport in the coming years to support the rapid growth of private space activities in the country.

spacenews.com

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Huge private component huh? Like jack ma? Who got kidnapped by CCP thugs

Lol

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Huge private component huh? Like jack ma? Who got kidnapped by CCP thugs

Lol

Many many entrepreneurs besides Jack

China has over 100 space-related companies.

That is only reason China has this kind of money to go head to head with US in launches .

Actual commies would leave China too poor like North Korea.

 

[rockdog]

Zhurong is pretty big, i think next time we need a drone, might DJI would helps.

 

[rockdog]

China will go into the space business just like any other industry

Chinese GPS/Beidou system and ecosystem in 2020 is a $USD65 Billion industry ...
By 2025, it will be $160 Billion.

 

[smooth manifold]

A Long March 2C rocket launched Yaogan-30 Group 08 satellites from Xichang on 7 May 2021.
It is the 369 flight of Long March series.

Orbital launches from Chinese launch centers: 401
(Long March/Kuaizhou/Smart Dragon/Hyperbola/Ceres)
Jiuquan Space Launch Center - 142
Xichang Space Launch Center - 154
Taiyuan Space Launch Center- 91
Wenchang Space Launch Center - 12
Haiyang Eastern Space Launch Port (Sea Launch)- 2
Ningbo Commercial Space Launch Center(under construction)-0

A Long March 4B rocket launched Haiyang-2D oceanography satellite from Jiuquan on 18 May 2021.
It is the 370 flight of Long March series.

Mission Insignia

Orbital launches from Chinese launch centers: 402
(Long March/Kuaizhou/Smart Dragon/Hyperbola/Ceres)
Jiuquan Space Launch Center - 143
Xichang Space Launch Center - 154
Taiyuan Space Launch Center- 91
Wenchang Space Launch Center - 12
Haiyang Eastern Space Launch Port (Sea Launch)- 2
Ningbo Commercial Space Launch Center(under construction)-0

Coming up next:
A Long March 7 rocket will launch Tianzhou-2 resupply ship to dock with the Chinese Space Station from Wenchang on 29 May 2021.
A Long March 3B rocket will launch Fenyun-4B meteorological satellites from Xichang on 30 May 2021.

 

[ketaki]

dont bore us by making day to day updates on rocket launches...tell us only when something interesting happens like human spaceflight or robotic extra terrestrial exploration-images videos

nobody cares how many stupid rockets are fired by CCP, used to study the same Planet-Earth and later added into space junk

 

[skywatcher]

Tianzhou-2 cargo spacecraft

 

[skywatcher]

Long March 7 rollout. Launch window May 29 - June 1

 

[skywatcher]

ISS & CSS core module through 14" telescope

 

[skywatcher]

ALL "First Tracks on Mars"

 

[skywatcher]

Gif of Zhurong Mars rover rollout

 

[johnq]

pretty sure US dont share tech with China, especially space tech. as for stolen, all NASA core tech are on secure network, even their external network have layer upon layers of firewall. If china able to steal it without US knowledge than their cyber offense is MUCH better than US, which is not true. as for personal income, they are still consider developing nation, around $12k GDP/cap. however, all you need to see is how many chinese tourist/student travel oversea to know their income are raising each year. as for corruption, its widely spread in china, but you might want to check india corruption and compare to china.
also you are contradicting yourself, if you are saying they stole tech that mean they dont need spend that much on R&D space tech, however you also said they spend alot $$ on their pet project Its contradicting
Now i'm not chinese but american, and i'm not fan of CCP. however, you need to recognize they achieve something only US able to achieve. and they are quickly catching up, hence why US consider china as Near peer. i mean you can say whatever word about china, but it doesn't change the facts here.

Nope, I was also talking about Qian Xuesen, the father of the Chinese rocket program who basically stole the technology from the US after being educated there. Also, it is a known fact that Chinese hackers, students and workers have been stealing intellectual property secrets from the US for decades. Speaking of Chinese students, workers and tourists, most of them are funded by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and sent to the US to steal intellectual property from US universities, companies, and even government organizations like NASA, so they are basically CCP agents. Overseas Chinese are more loyal to China than to the US even after becoming American citizens, and often spy for the CCP (one example is Eric Yuan, the CEO of Zoom, who was sending data of Zoom users to China). Chinese living in US often take CCP's side, due to them having been brainwashed by CCP propaganda their whole lives.
As far as the money being spent by CCP on its pet projects like space exploration, that is well worth it for CCP because it helps CCP to keep the Chinese people impressed and under CCP control. But that doesn't change the fact that CCP has had to spend much less money on research and development due to CCP spies and hackers stealing intellectual property from the US. Plus there was a time when NASA willingly helped Chinese space program in the name of cooperation with China. Of course all technology being dual use, CCP is weaponizing space now, and it will come back to haunt the US.
Your use of GDP to conclude that Chinese are not poor is wrong. 70 percent of the GDP of China goes to the wealthiest top 10 percent of the people in China, which are mainly the CCP and their families and friends in big cities. The poorer 50 percent of the Chinese population only gets 10 percent of the GDP, and they are dirt poor. Recently Xi Jinping was going around saying that he lifted Chinese people out of poverty, when in fact the standard he used for below poverty was 620 dollars a year, which is a laughable amount of money per year. And even those numbers were fudged up because CCP government officials were getting signatures from people under threat; also 42 dollars a month was given to an entire family of five members which was then changed to 42 dollars per individual on paper. The only difference between Indian and Chinese poor is that the Indian poor are exposed to the world due to free Indian media, while Chinese poverty is hidden from the world through CCP media censorship and CCP policing. But that is necessary for CCP so that CCP can spend all this money on the military and its pet projects in space, while ignoring the poor. CCP bots continuously posting CCP propaganda showing pictures and videos of shiny Chinese cities, big CCP military and CCP space program are only peddling their CCP masters' agenda while hiding the truth about the poverty in China from the world so as to avoid embarassing their CCP masters like Xi Jinping. But by covering up the truth, CCP bots are certainly not helping Chinese poor because you can only fix a problem if you acknowledge it exists. It reminds me of Mao's famine where common Chinese were so scared that they lied that they were producing extra food when they were starving, so Mao exported all this food while tens of millions of Chinese people starved to death.

China Claims It Has Eliminated Poverty But Is That True?

As state-run media trumpet milestone to burnish President Xi Jinping’s image ahead of the Communist Party’s 100th anniversary in July, many remain in dire circumstances, according to international standards

www.voanews.com

China Claims It Has Eliminated Poverty But Is That True?

Beijing continues to use World Bank standards for the world’s poorest nations even though it is classified as an upper-middle-class country.

China defines extreme rural poverty as annual per capita income of less than $620, or about $1.69 a day at current exchange rates, according to Reuters.

That compares to the World Bank’s global threshold of $1.90 a day.

“In 2021 … measuring progress using the official poverty lines of the world’s poorest countries as a benchmark may be the very definition of underachievement,” wrote Brookings Institution economist Indermit Gill.

Huang Xiaomin, a rights activist in Chengdu, Sichuan Province, told VOA Mandarin that, in some places, records used by Xi and other top officials can be inflated.

In Sichuan province, for example, many residents of Heshu town in Peng’an county appear to have received social security and health care benefits. But, the activist said, the reality is different because several people in one family share the money that arrives as a cash payment or bank transfer.

According to Huang, the one-month minimum living allowance for one person is about $42 to $56. When shared among four or five family members of one household, each person got about $11, he said.

“It’s definitely not enough to get out of poverty. But under pressure from the government, [unless the poor people] sign their names to claim everyone has got the full amount, they won’t get any money,” he told VOA’s Mandarin Service “So there’s definitely adulteration."

“There are over 600 million people whose monthly income is barely 1,000 yuan (USD $140), not enough to rent a room in Chinese cities,” he said at his annual press conference.

Xia Ming, professor of political science at the City University of New York, said he now expects CCP loyalists to parrot Xi's questionable claims about the success of China's poverty alleviation efforts, and possibly work to generate supporting evidence.

Wu Qiang, former lecturer in the political department at Tsinghua University, told VOA that Xi's declaration shows he has nothing else to highlight in his eight years in power. He said declaring the end of poverty is a way to maintain stability in the face of income inequality.

“In the market economy, China's rich and poor are divided to an unprecedented extent," said Wu. "...Xi's efforts to alleviate poverty are in fact for political security and the need for stability. Xi's publicity is in fact to show other Party leaders that he has the ability to solve the urgent problems of instability through poverty alleviation and prevent the potential impact on the Party.”

 

[Illusive]

Gif of Zhurong Mars rover rollout
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Good achievement.

 

[skywatcher]

Zhurong rover’s twin on Earth

 

[mandestiny]

Realty of chineze space knowledge.

Just take out one component from any space system, they cant fix it.

They just barking on stolen technology.

 

[skywatcher]

NASA Administrator Nelson cites China’s growing space prowess, calls for sustained funding

Nelson cites China’s growing space prowess, calls for sustained NASA funding – Spaceflight Now

NASA Administrator Bill Nelson holds up a picture of China’s Zhurong Mars rover during a virtual hearing with a House of Representatives subcommittee Wednesday. Credit: NASA/U.S. House of Representatives

Holding up a photo taken by China’s new Mars lander, NASA Administrator Bill Nelson warned Congress Wednesday that his agency faces increasingly stiff competition on the high frontier and that sustained funding for a new moon lander, infrastructure upgrades and other critical programs is vital for America’s space program.

In his first congressional appearance since confirmation in the Senate, Nelson, a former lawmaker who flew aboard a space shuttle in 1986, told a House appropriations subcommittee that China plans to send multiple landers to the south pole of the moon in the not-too-distant future, the same area NASA is targeting in its Artemis program.

And the moon isn’t the only arena where NASA faces competition from China’s increasingly capable space program.

“I want you to see this photograph,” he said in the virtual hearing, holding up a photograph taken this week by China’s Zhurong rover, which successfully landed on Mars last week. “This is the Chinese rover that has now landed on Mars and has sent back this picture.”

The successful Mars landing followed the April launch of the first module of a new Chinese space station. Nelson said China is gearing up for multiple missions to the moon’s south pole, leading up to a “flyby and a lunar lander in the decade of the 2020s.”

“I think that’s now adding a new element as to whether or not we want to get serious and get a lot of activity going in landing humans back on surface of the moon,” he said.

He was speaking to a sympathetic audience.

“China’s dramatic progress with moon and Mars robotic elements, plus their space station elements, means that we cannot lose focus or momentum in developing our own programs,” said Rep. Robert Aderholt, R-Alabama, whose district includes parts of Huntsville and NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center.

The hearing was called to discuss the Biden administration’s preliminary, or “skinny,” budget for fiscal 2022, which includes $24.7 billion for NASA, an increase of 6 percent above current funding levels.

NASA’s most ambitious program — Artemis — will consume a large fraction of the agency’s budget through the rest of the decade. The program is built around the gargantuan new Boeing-managed Space Launch System rocket, which will propel four-person astronaut crews to the moon aboard Lockheed Martin-built Orion capsules.

After braking into orbit, the astronauts will board a waiting lander and head for touchdown near the moon’s south pole where ice is believed to exist in ultra-cold, permanently shadowed craters. If ice is, in fact, present, future astronauts may be able to break it down to provide water, air and rocket propellants.

The SLS rocket is being assembled at the Kennedy Space Center for a maiden flight late this year to boost an unpiloted Orion capsule on a long looping trip around the moon. A piloted flight is planned in the 2023 timeframe followed one to two years later by what NASA bills as a mission to land the first woman and the next man to walk on the moon.

But that assumes a new lunar lander is available. Earlier this year, SpaceX won a $2.9 billion contract for the initial lander mission, beating out higher bids from a “National Team” led by Blue Origin, owned by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, and Huntsville-based Dynetics.

Just like it did for commercial resupply missions and crew ferry flights to the International Space Station, NASA originally planned to select two winners. The goal was to ensure competition for multiple Artemis moon landings after the initial flight and provide redundancy in case of problems that might affect one company buy not the other.

But Congress only appropriated a quarter of the requested HLS funding, and NASA ultimately awarded a single contract to SpaceX on April 16.

Blue Origin and Dynetics promptly challenged the award, citing a variety of alleged improprieties and claiming NASA did not give them an opportunity to revise their bids when it became apparent the agency would not receive the requested funding.

The Government Accountability Office is reviewing the protest, forcing NASA to stop work on the lander contract until the issue is resolved.

“With China’s progress, and the lack of U.S. government ownership of the lander, it is unacceptable for the fate of the U.S. access to cislunar space to be in the hands of only one company,” said Aderholt. “I will have to admit that I have concerns about the process and how it was used to make a single award.”

Nelson told the panel he is committed to competition.

“But this is where you all become extremely important partners in this whole competition, because if we are going to the surface of the moon with humans, it is going to cost some money,” he said.

In the fiscal 2021 budget, he said, NASA asked for $3.4 billion to fund lander development but only $850 million was appropriated.

“They just simply didn’t have enough to keep going forward (with) more than one lander,” Nelson said. “If the bid protest is successful … then everything starts over, and you do (another) competition. If it is not successful … what’s been done is done.”

If so, there will still be opportunities for competitors, he said “because this first competition was only as a demonstrator to show that you can land and bring humans safely back home. There are many additional landings that are planned for on the moon.”

He said Congress could help by adding $5.4 billion to a jobs bill to help fund lander development and infrastructure upgrades to replace or repair aging NASA facilities. Such funding also could help pay for development of the spacesuits moon walkers will need and development of new propulsion technology to shorten the time needed for voyages to Mars.

Nelson cites China’s growing space prowess, calls for sustained NASA funding – Spaceflight Now