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Russia assured India, that chinese squatting on the LC was just an exercise when things was heating up and there was some cross intelligence between India and Russia.
Сука, сука, сука, блять
well!! thats when I realized Vladamir Putin is dumb or playing dumb
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Same quote can also go backwards.

In the meantime Russia sells its most high tech weapons to India, and offer diplomatic support to India even if India is killing Chinese soldiers in disputed areas.

What is wrong with some Chinese?


Why should we give up Russia when US will support us in any action on China anyway, regardless of if we shift to their side or not?
Reason does not seem to be a particular traot for some:

1) US gives India the best BOT whereas Russia is not even in India's top 20 trading partner
2) US does not sell weapons to China
3) India and US are both liberal democracies
4) India and US' strategic interests align in Asia
5) US is top job destination for Indians (are Indians lining up to study and work in Russia?)

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What is this about?
Nothing he's said china will not further trouble us , well realistically speaking china is not actively fomenting trouble either, is it because of Russia that I am not sure about
 

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With nearly 70% of our hardware of Russian origin, I wouldn't propose for simping in favor of Quad or NATO either.

Will the West give us an equivalent of S-400 with no strings attached?

What use is India's S-400 if China knows the ways to avoid it since Russia also sold it the same S-400... wasted money and opportunity. :facepalm:
 

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Reason does not seem to be a particular traot for some:

1) US gives India the best BOT whereas Russia is not even in India's top 20 trading partner
2) US does not sell weapons to China
3) India and US are both liberal democracies
4) India and US' strategic interests align in Asia
5) US is top job destination for Indians (are Indians lining up to study and work in Russia?)

:creepy:
All these are reasons for us to be fwb with the US, but not to marry them. There is no benefit of joining US bloc.

We already get as much benefit as we will ever get from US, and are able to balace russian relations as well. Why go for a losing play and pick either side?
 

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What use is India's S-400 if China knows the ways to avoid it since Russia also sold it the same S-400... wasted money and opportunity. :facepalm:
What are you harping on about?

1) Frequency can be chosen by operator, would be egregious oversight if not.

2) Chinese arent exactly shooting at their own jets to "practice".

3)It is oriented towards pakistan as far as we know till now. If we need to use against china, its still great. Our own XRSAMS can complement.
 

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All these are reasons for us to be fwb with the US, but not to marry them. There is no benefit of joining US bloc.

We already get as much benefit as we will ever get from US, and are able to balace russian relations as well. Why go for a losing play and pick either side?
Because Russia is now firmly in China's pocket and India will never be able to counter China's benefits to Russia. Russia is now just China's lapdog.

So who's the losing side?
 

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What are you harping on about?

1) Frequency can be chosen by operator, would be egregious oversight if not.

2) Chinese arent exactly shooting at their own jets to "practice".

3)It is oriented towards pakistan as far as we know till now. If we need to use against china, its still great. Our own XRSAMS can complement.
Somebody mentioned that Pakistan is already practicing with China against China's S-400... :bplease:
 

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Because Russia is now firmly in China's pocket and India will never be able to counter China's benefits to Russia. Russia is now just China's lapdog.

So who's the losing side?
Yet Russian embassy personally intervenes if some random media makes some documentary.

And tass calls 45 killed in galwan on PLA side.

You are living your own dream on american hopium, India is best doing multi alignment.
 

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Because Russia is now firmly in China's pocket and India will never be able to counter China's benefits to Russia. Russia is now just China's lapdog.

So who's the losing side?
Russia's short term goals are aligned with China, but unless it's willing to be it's slave nation like Pakistan, it's longevity requires a weak China.

I assure you, if China considers it feasible, it will start vying for land on Russian borders too.
And I'm pretty sure if I can predict it, Russians can too.
As has been said before, they're only aligned because of USA's ability to trample over them in a no holds barred fight.

Cracks will develop with USA's loss of edge against both as time passes.
 

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Wow they actually tried to use a gas attack false flag (or was it a false falg-false flag?). Worth a shot I guess.
 
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