Civil war in Ukraine

[omaebakabaka]

Ukraine doesn't need to be part of NATO, it will become its client state like S.Korea, Japan and Taiwan.

He has just thrown down the gauntlet and put them on notice....he would not have been more clear about the intent. Basically questioned the existence of Ukraine. West is becoming victim of their greed to own everything and everyone. Outcome of that is very clear....historically

 

[Maveli]

epic fail

Explain how it is epic fail. What do you think this video clip is trying to show?

Here's another clip:

 

[Jimih]

I highly doubt Russia will stop at Donbass. They will invade Ukraine completely. The more they delay the worse it gets for them in the future.

Current NATO's talking point.

They have to admit that they failed.

 

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

haan ye karlo pehle

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

I highly doubt Russia will stop at Donbass. They will invade Ukraine completely. The more they delay the worse it gets for them in the future.

This move might give them legitimacy to invade Ukraine, bound to be a few clashes they can escalate.

 

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

 

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

haan ye karlo pehle

We have no skin in the game, no need to make a statement on it

 

[omaebakabaka]

The National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine is considering a decision to introduce martial law.

Your puppet leaders are the scum who are putting the existence of your country at risk. Instead of playing their own game, they got pimped out by one or other. I think finally world is catching up to the level of Bharat's political pimpsthat sold us to various bidders to this day. Only Santhan Dharma protected us to this day....you have none of that to hold you Ukraine together unfortunately. Georgia probably shitting their pants now lol

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

Ukraine doesn't need to be part of NATO, it will become its client state like S.Korea, Japan and Taiwan.

Not Taiwan. The United States has explicit treaty obligations for the defense of Japan and South Korea. It has no such obligation to Taiwan.

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

About the Bolsheviks stuff in Putin's speech, that part can definitely be called true. It was the Soviet Bolsheviks and Communists that created Ukraine.

 

[Jimih]

We are good at only making memes and laugh at them.

Putin is the man of his words and actions, that's why citizens of Non-Western countries admire and love him.

Great lesson for our Political Cucks back home.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Not Taiwan. The United States has explicit treaty obligations for the defense of Japan and South Korea. It has no such obligation to Taiwan.

Chinese will not be able to do that with force, they have not a war efficiently forever and no combat experience....they might get Taiwan with their economic bribery if they keep rising buying out Taiwanese leadership with US losing its relevance steadily. Japan won't stand by either.....

 

[Jimih]

About the Bolsheviks stuff in Putin's speech, that part can definitely be called true. It was the Soviet Bolsheviks and Communists that created Ukraine.

Were the bolsheviks 'Js'? I believe once Putin mentioned this.

 

[WARREN SS]

That air offensive alone will wipe out 60-70% of the Ukrainian Ground forces in max 4-5 days

If the real military offensive starts

With no Credible Airforce aur AAD like Patriots

It's walkover

 

[Shuturmurg]

We are good at only making memes and laugh at them.

Putin is man of his wordsand actions, that's why citizens of Non-Western countries admire and love him.

Great lesson for our Political Cucks back home.

Historically russia has not been shy of using force to achieve its strategic objectives. Indians have been generationally cucked by our "non-violent" independence movement. Will take years to come out of that cucked mentality.

 

[Jimih]

Historically russia has not been shy of using force to achieve its strategic objectives. Indians have been generationally cucked by our "non-violent" independence movement. Will take years to come out of that cucked mentality.

We were laid to believe that it was a "Non-violent" movement.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Strongly agree with you but not sure about invade till Dneipr.

Well, they have to secure water supplies to Crimea, so there is that objective. Rivers make good natural boundaries and cut off the sea access to remaining Ukraine but it wont happen immediately. They will continue to see Ukraine remains a fire pit one way or other and that is why he issued a threat that if West does go forward with anything more like Nato or setting up bases then full invasion is on the table. That is how I read his speech.

 

[Optimistic Nihilist]

Chinese will not be able to do that with force, they have not a war efficiently forever and no combat experience....they might get Taiwan with their economic bribery if they keep rising buying out Taiwanese leadership with US losing its relevance steadily. Japan won't stand by either.....

The point either way is that the US has no firm commitment or obligation to defend Taiwan from attack.

Agree with the point about China not having won a proper war with any country for centuries, I had made a post about that. Same thing though, could be said about the US too. Hell, don't even consider China vs USA, take China vs Russia, even then it doesn't look good for USA.

Yes, in a nuclear war the US can destroy Russia. Russia can also destroy the US in the same war. So that hardly counts as a point in favor of the US being "more powerful" than Russia.

The notion that a war between Russia and the US/NATO in Ukraine would be a stalemate is highly questionable. The reality is that the US has not fought a peer adversary since 1945. Many military experts don't believe the US has the capability to fight a conventional war against a peer adversary, having drained all its training and resources beating up Third World countries. Based on Russian strategic doctrine, the US won't be allowed to enter a conflict in Ukraine, because every means will be denied them.

Air fields and ports will be destroyed, and the Russian air defense systems will cover Ukraine and make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for US aircraft to operate in the theater. Certainly US cruise missiles fired from US Navy ships can eventually take out the air defense - if they are allowed to remain afloat - which they won't be. Russian aircraft and subs and even corvettes sailing in Russian rivers will sink every US ship within a 1,000 km.

The real problem is any attempt by the US or NATO to involve themselves in a Ukraine conflict with Russia will almost certainly end up going nuclear as the US faces a catastrophic defeat in conventional terms. And if it doesn't go nuclear, that catastrophic defeat will alter the security situation in Europe - and possibly elsewhere - for decades.

And all this stems from America's stubbornness to militarize Ukraine.

As for your last point, I think that is probably the biggest factor stopping China from militarily making a move on Taiwan. They do not want to risk the rearmament and a comeback of Imperial Japan.

Then again, they don't have to. Considering the present economic and political system set up in Taiwan, Taiwan will offer itself up on a platter to China in a matter of years, had made a post about this too.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Historically russia has not been shy of using force to achieve its strategic objectives. Indians have been generationally cucked by our "non-violent" independence movement. Will take years to come out of that cucked mentality.

Our independence being falsely credited to “non-violence” movement, and subsequent political parties cashing upon this, has made multiple Indian generations to become weak-willed and risk-averse.
The idea that conflicts can be resolved by “peaceful methods” has been romanticised.

Whereas, Russia has grown on the foundations of fierce national pride and “fighting for motherland”. Of course, it will birth strong leaders like Putin.