Chinese Navy Destroyers

[SexyChineseLady]

How well can type 055 defend itself from anti ship missiles ?

Type 055 is designed to defend the whole battlegroup.

Layered AA -- Long (HQ-9), Medium (HQ-16), Short (FM-3000N, quad-packed) and Point (HQ-10.) The first three in the HT-1 UVLS (HT-1E for exports!) HQ-10 is mounted on a separate system.

The average cell in the Chinese UVLS has three times (!!) the volume of the one in MK41 which allows very big and very long ranged missiles so an ABM is expected as well.

HT-1 AA systems are basically tested against MACH 3 and MACH 4 anti-ship missiles in PLAN's possession like the YJ-12, YJ-18 and CX-1 and also the Sunburn on the Sovremenny.

 

[India Super Power]

Type 055 is designed to defend the whole battlegroup.

Layered AA -- Long (HQ-9), Medium (HQ-16), Short (FM-3000N, quad-packed) and Point (HQ-10.) The first three in the HT-1 UVLS (HT-1E for exports!) HQ-10 is mounted on a separate system.

The average cell in the Chinese UVLS has three times (!!) the volume of the one in MK41 which allows very big and very long ranged missiles so an ABM is expected as well.
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HT-1 AA systems are basically tested against MACH 3 and MACH 4 anti-ship missiles in PLAN's possession like the YJ-12, YJ-18 and CX-1 and also the Sunburn on the Sovremenny.

Can u provide English translated pics

 

[THESIS THORON]

Bro except Indians no one else have said about well effectiveness of bharmos
I agree it's a deadly missile but they too have supersonic missiles some of designs copied from p-800 ones and when it comes to ad effectiveness then no one knows so it can be very good or very bad
Overall many vls can provide a better firepower they too can fire their supersonic counterpart then how much can Barak 8 save us although it's effectiveness has been tested

there are some international studies conducted on this system.

brahmos cheif confirmed this

 

[India Super Power]

there are some international studies conducted on this system.

brahmos cheif confirmed this

Might be a marketing gimmick

 

[vampyrbladez]

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If you take USAN's CGB as reference, it normally includes 2 crusier, 3-5 destoryers...
The role of 055 in this kind of combination is same as Ticonderoga class, 052D or 052DL as Arleigh Burkeclass. Just my personal POV.

Type 055 is more of an Arleigh Burke Flight IIA / III equivalent. VLS load 96 vs 112 is similar although Type 055 can pack bigger missiles.

AN SPY 6 has a far superior radar but Type 055 can perform Carrier Flag Ship role like Ticonderoga Class.

US DDGX on the other hand, despite looking visually similar (128 vs 112 VLS) is a different beast due to a complex integrated electric drive which can power even railguns and lasers unlike the Type 055 which is a more conventional warship.

 

[Angel of War]

Bro except Indians no one else have said about well effectiveness of bharmos
I agree it's a deadly missile but they too have supersonic missiles some of designs copied from p-800 ones and when it comes to ad effectiveness then no one knows so it can be very good or very bad
Overall many vls can provide a better firepower they too can fire their supersonic counterpart then how much can Barak 8 save us although it's effectiveness has been tested

Oh yeah ? You have no idea what a slavo of 6 brahmos missiles will do to a CBG . This has been stimulated during exercise malabar and the results were disastrous for the US navy . You should do more research about brahmos

 

[Angel of War]

there are some international studies conducted on this system.

brahmos cheif confirmed this

not only a research , there were several exercises to confirm this . Any Anti Ship missile fired in salvos can totally wreck any CBG

 

[Angel of War]

Type 055 is designed to defend the whole battlegroup.

Layered AA -- Long (HQ-9), Medium (HQ-16), Short (FM-3000N, quad-packed) and Point (HQ-10.) The first three in the HT-1 UVLS (HT-1E for exports!) HQ-10 is mounted on a separate system.

The average cell in the Chinese UVLS has three times (!!) the volume of the one in MK41 which allows very big and very long ranged missiles so an ABM is expected as well.
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HT-1 AA systems are basically tested against MACH 3 and MACH 4 anti-ship missiles in PLAN's possession like the YJ-12, YJ-18 and CX-1 and also the Sunburn on the Sovremenny.

what's the range of the missiles onboard .

 

[India Super Power]

Oh yeah ? You have no idea what a slavo of 6 brahmos missiles will do to a CBG . This has been stimulated during exercise malabar and the results were disastrous for the US navy . You should do more research about brahmos

Ok brata but anyway bharmos is not a silver bullet
That's from my side

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Too be perfectly honest, CX-1 was most likely based on the Yakhont just like the Brahmos was based on the Yakhont. It was a MACH 3 missile with latest variants marketed as MACH 4! (Yes, it is mainly for export. Type 055/052D/DL will use YJ-12.)

CX-1 and the Yakhont were not considered special. Maybe Brahmos is special but if it is based on Yakhont then China knows about it and decided not to use it as a frontline weapon.

 

[rockdog]

THAT TOOO UVLS so no body knows how many AD mijjile it is carrying.

but it is researched that no ad can defend against 2 brahmos (salvo), and if you launch around 4 then be sure that it will hit

Dude, during 2000, China got 4 Russian‘s Sovremenny class destroyers. Each has 8 SS-N-22 Sunburn anti warshp missile, and all the Chinese fans called it as "Aircraft Carrier Killer". We expected those 32 missiles would threat USAN's CBG in western Pacific...

But the more we built single warships and comprehensive system like (X-band radar, AC, GSP network, datalink, AEW ), the more we learned that the single killing weapon couldn't challenge the system advantage.

I think Indian members is on the similiar learning process now.

 

[Angel of War]

Ok brata but anyway bharmos is not a silver bullet
That's from my side

no missile is a silver bullet . It all depends on how you use them in a war . Our Navy is very much aware of various tactics required to sink aircraft carriers in their battle groups . Brahmos is much more advanced than Oniks in guidance and better in maneuverability ( block III can perform double S maneuvers at supersonic speeds to evade Air defences ). It's also faster by a difference of 0.5 mach than the oniks . Brahmos literally outclasses any Ashm in the world other than zicron or the NSM

 

[Angel of War]

Dude, during 2000, China got 4 Russian‘s Sovremenny class destroyers. Each has 8 SS-N-22 Sunburn anti warshp missile, and all the Chinese fans called it as "Aircraft Carrier Killer". We expected those 32 missiles would threat USAN's CBG in western Pacific...

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But the more we built single warships and comprehensive system like (X-band radar, AC, GSP network, datalink, AEW ), the more we learned that the single killing weapon couldn't challenge the system advantage.

I think Indian members is on the similiar learning process now.

SSN 22 or the P270 was a pathetic missile with a patethic range . If anyone calls it a carrier killer then they were very very dumb

 

[Angel of War]

I think Indian members is on the similiar learning process now.

China has never fought a naval war , so what are you on about ? Our Navy has experience in all of this . China is the in learning process

 

[Angel of War]

the best chance of survival for a CBG against anti ship missiles is to eliminate all enemy warships within the firing radius . If a missile is launched within the firing radius then it's highly unpredictable whether a CBG will survive or not .

 

[India Super Power]

Dude, during 2000, China got 4 Russian‘s Sovremenny class destroyers. Each has 8 SS-N-22 Sunburn anti warshp missile, and all the Chinese fans called it as "Aircraft Carrier Killer". We expected those 32 missiles would threat USAN's CBG in western Pacific...

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But the more we built single warships and comprehensive system like (X-band radar, AC, GSP network, datalink, AEW ), the more we learned that the single killing weapon couldn't challenge the system advantage.

I think Indian members is on the similiar learning process now.

Bro seriously we have fought Naval battles we have necessary doctrine to engage
Experience and instincts come through battles for which we need to pay with blood but still it can create a havoc for a very large Navy
U are be building more which is increasing your quality but plan would never understand what's necessary for battle unless you fight it

 

[rockdog]

SSN 22 or the P270 was a pathetic missile with a patethic range . If anyone calls it a carrier killer then they were very very dumb

If you consider its speficiation 25 yrs ago, it was truely almsot the best in the world.

China has never fought a naval war , so what are you on about ? Our Navy has experience in all of this . China is the in learning process

Yes, that's ture. So building new fleet and better system would minimize the disadvangate on experiences.

Just like India joined WTO in 1995, thoeratically it has better experience on trading ... And China joined at 2002. See what's the situation now, sometimes experience is advantage, but not a big thing to show off.

 

[India Super Power]

Dude, during 2000, China got 4 Russian‘s Sovremenny class destroyers. Each has 8 SS-N-22 Sunburn anti warshp missile, and all the Chinese fans called it as "Aircraft Carrier Killer". We expected those 32 missiles would threat USAN's CBG in western Pacific...

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But the more we built single warships and comprehensive system like (X-band radar, AC, GSP network, datalink, AEW ), the more we learned that the single killing weapon couldn't challenge the system advantage.

I think Indian members is on the similiar learning process now.

SS-N-22 missile is best
Pls bro don't speak like this

 

[India Super Power]

If you consider its speficiation 25 yrs ago, it was truely almsot the best in the world.



Yes, that's ture. So building new fleet and better system would minimize the disadvangate on experiences.

Just like India joined WTO in 1995, thoeratically it has better experience on trading ... And China joined at 2002. See what's the situation now, sometimes experience is advantage, but not a big thing to show off.

Warfare is not business

 

[rockdog]

SS-N-22 missile is best
Pls bro don't speak like this

I said it was among the best, 25 yrs ago. And Chinese fan expected the single weapon would be the killer, but the more we built, the more we learned, we realized we were naive.