Chinese Navy Destroyers

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051 go to museum. they're too old to be resold.
two 052s, one 051B and four Russian Sovremennys are old but they haven't retired. these destroyers could be resold in the future.
Even giving them away would still bring contracts to shipyards for the renovation of the ships. Chinese shipyards must be so busy they do not care and let them rust away never to be touched again. It is a bit wasteful if you ask me.
 

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Oct.1 2019. Jiangnan shipyard update

055#1(pennant number 101), 055#2 with two 052ds




two 052ds on the left together with two 055s on the right


seems 055#1 is yet to be commissioned.
 
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They started upgrades in 2014... they aren't finished yet?
They didn't start until late '16.
1st on is done refitting, 2nd is going on.
Changes include sunburn to yj12, shtil to ram+vls.
 

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Anything about 054b? Or will they wait until huangpu is done with 075?
 

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32 054/054As are enough. more frigates would be a waste of money.
I hope you are joking, the frigates are not only responsible for coastal defense but also sealane protection and anti piracy missions.
Having less frigates will only make larger combatants like 052d to be diverted to low intensity but necessary tasks like these. 054a was a limited design with an incremental approach and a better replacement for older frigates was already being thought off as these ships were being launched.Besides, 054a follow on has been indicated quite a few times by now.
 

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I hope you are joking, the frigates are not only responsible for coastal defense but also sealane protection and anti piracy missions.
Having less frigates will only make larger combatants like 052d to be diverted to low intensity but necessary tasks like these. 054a was a limited design with an incremental approach and a better replacement for older frigates was already being thought off as these ships were being launched.Besides, 054a follow on has been indicated quite a few times by now.
I know 054A is not that advanced. it's 90's tech. don't forget 60+ 056/056A for coastal defense. if 054B is 6,000+ tonne, it'll overlap with 052d. if 054B is <= 5,000 tonne, what's the point? ships under 5,000 tonne sailing on high seas look like this.

it's not suitable for long distances. larger ships are the trend in the future. it's temporary expediency to let 054A to handle those missions that destroyers should undertake. I think what China needs is a 9,000 tonne class ship filling the gap between 055 and 052d, aka the rumored 052E.
 
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as to 054A's role in the future, they'll just stay in South and East China Sea, they won't go far and undertake expeditions any more. It's my personal opinion, maybe I will be totally wrong.
 

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I know 054A is not that advanced. it's 90's tech. don't forget 60+ 056/056A for coastal defense. if 054B is 6,000+ tonne, it'll overlap with 052d. if 054B is <= 5,000 tonne, what's the point? ships under 5,000 tonne sailing on high seas look like this.

it's not suitable for long distances. larger ships are the trend in the future. it's temporary expediency to let 054A to handle those missions that destroyers should undertake. I think what China needs is a 9,000 tonne class ship filling the gap between 055 and 052d, aka the rumored 052E.
Larger ships means more money.
For specialized systems like antisub warfare, 054a size is the best.
Any larger and you have to redefine mission profile for the entire class like providing it capabilities of a destroyer. 054a requires incremental update rather than a overhaul of design to entirely different class.
Hq16 to hq 9
Yj 83 to yj 12
Aesa radar
an improved sonar would suffice.
And none of these require redesigning the hull.
 

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as to 054A's role in the future, they'll just stay in South and East China Sea, they won't go far and undertake expeditions any more. It's my personal opinion, maybe I will be totally wrong.
China has sent some 32 anti piracy task forces to gulf of aden, and most of them had the flagships as one or two of the 054a ships. These missions have become staple in these ships' deployments.
 

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China has sent some 32 anti piracy task forces to gulf of aden, and most of them had the flagships as one or two of the 054a ships. These missions have become staple in these ships' deployments.
maybe currently they're just OK. but you know small ships have no future. it's a trend.
 

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ships will evolve into multi role and integrated platform. specialized ships such as anti-sub will be gradually phased out. omnipotent ship is the future:biggrin2:
 

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China has sent some 32 anti piracy task forces to gulf of aden, and most of them had the flagships as one or two of the 054a ships. These missions have become staple in these ships' deployments.
found a contract notice about some components of XX4B ship. don't know if it's 054B.
 
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