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You can determine your own answer by your own imagination.

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Wow! A tweet! This surely is a much better tribute than a full state funeral like the photos you poste----WHAT B.S.!

Yeah no. I can't bend my imagination that much that I consider a tweet more than a state funeral. Looks like living under CCP makes your mind rather pliable.
 

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Wow! A tweet! This surely is a much better tribute than a full state funeral like the photos you poste----WHAT B.S.!

Yeah no. I can't bend my imagination that much that I consider a tweet more than a state funeral. Looks like living under CCP makes your mind rather pliable.
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No intrest to debate this issue on this thread, especially if we are discussing something, you go personal instead.

Just few question:

If India really "win" the battle, why there were 20+ IA soliders captured by PLA (there were news reported), you would check data for 1962 war, China won it and got 3000+ POW, India lost it and captured less than 10;

Before CCTV release the video of battle, the India side didn't release any clip, if the team didn't collapse, how possible ...

After the video been release, the only clear face from IA get rewarded ...

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It's not about CCP, it's about simple logic. Again, i don't care you insist your pov or not, I am busy.
 
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No intrest to debate this issue on this thread, especially if we are discussing something, you go personal instead.

Just few question:

If India really "win" the battle, why there were 20+ IA soliders captured by PLA (there were news reported), you would check data for 1962 war, China won it and got 3000+ POW, India lost it and captured less than 10;

Before CCTV release the video of battle, the India side didn't release any clip, if the team didn't collapse, how possible ...

After the video been release, the only clear face from IA get rewarded ...

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It's not about CCP, it's about simple logic. Again, i don't care you insist your pov or not, I am busy.
Let them get used to lies without breaking😉
 

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No intrest to debate this issue on this thread, especially if we are discussing something, you go personal instead.

Just few question:

If India really "win" the battle, why there were 20+ IA soliders captured by PLA (there were news reported), you would check data for 1962 war, China won it and got 3000+ POW, India lost it and captured less than 10;

Before CCTV release the video of battle, the India side didn't release any clip, if the team didn't collapse, how possible ...

After the video been release, the only clear face from IA get rewarded ...

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It's not about CCP, it's about simple logic. Again, i don't care you insist your pov or not, I am busy.
Typical behaviour:-
  • Bring in unrelated stuff to prove "you won", even though the argument is not about that.
  • Try to insinuate that India is no different by pointing to a photo saying "why were other Indian soldiers not awarded". Well, its public knowledge that their names were announced immediately, they ALL received state funerals with full military honours and then they also got awarded Gallantry medals by the President of India at the Defence Investiture Ceremony held on 25 January 2021. Proof: https://www.deccanherald.com/nation...try-awards-for-galwan-bravehearts-943420.html
  • Then you say "you are busy". Seems like CCP gave your people the same excuse when they refused to give state funerals to your martyrs.
Let them get used to lies without breaking😉
The level of delusions and self-projection you show even surpass Pakistani levels.

I respect past away soldiers from both sides, and i never tried to persuade any Indian members about the casualties of PLA, they believe in what they are willing to...
I am not talking about whether casualties happened or not. I am talking about publicly announced state funerals and pomp and ceremony similar to the ones whose photo you just posted on this thread today.
 

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Let them get used to lies without breaking😉
I respect past away soldiers from both sides, and i never tried to persuade any Indian members about the casualties of PLA, they believe in what they are willing to...
A Chinese is saying let them live their lies?
A propaganda state,

As you were saying about sources

Chinese are first were saying no PLA soldier died, isn't it?
 

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I respect past away soldiers from both sides, and i never tried to persuade any Indian members about the casualties of PLA, they believe in what they are willing to...
Agree, we don’t want to treat the lives of soldiers as cricket scores.
 

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Before CCTV release the video of battle, the India side didn't release any clip, if the team didn't collapse, how possible ...

After the video been release, the only clear face from IA get rewarded ...

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It's not about CCP, it's about simple logic. Again, i don't care you insist your pov or not, I am busy.
Your whole psychology revolves around videos and photos and trying to piece information together, which might be due to CCP's style of ruling: censorship. Well, here in India, we look at official statements, not "videos" or "photos". Either official statements or free media (You might not be aware but outside China, there is something called a free media which is media without censorship! Shocking for you, I know, but pretty normal for us). Maybe you missed the Gallantry awards that Indian soldiers who died in Galwan got. You can check their awards on this site, they have detailed citation for their awards:-
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4950
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4952
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4955
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4953
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4954
^These are links to the OFFICIAL DECLARATIONS of their Gallantry medals. There are more, I've only listed some of them here. You are free to visit the site and find more of them.

Agree, we don’t want to treat the lives of soldiers as cricket scores.
Cricket scores? We gave them state funerals and gallantry medals along with all the fame they deserved. Your CCP gave them nothing more than a passing mention, months after the incident. Look at it that way, and its clear that you treat your soldiers even worse than you treat cricket scores. At least you know of cricket scores, you don't even know of the soldiers of yours that died. Pathetic.
 

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I am not talking about whether casualties happened or not. I am talking about publicly announced state funerals and pomp and ceremony similar to the ones whose photo you just posted on this thread today.
Didn't post here dosen't mean it not happened. Just don't want forum members to judge passed away soldiers...

Not hard to find pics:



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Your whole psychology revolves around videos and photos and trying to piece information together, which might be due to CCP's style of ruling: censorship. Well, here in India, we look at official statements, not "videos" or "photos". Either official statements or free media (You might not be aware but outside China, there is something called a free media which is media without censorship! Shocking for you, I know, but pretty normal for us). Maybe you missed the Gallantry awards that Indian soldiers who died in Galwan got. You can check their awards on this site, they have detailed citation for their awards:-
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4950
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4952
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4955
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4953
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4954
^These are links to the OFFICIAL DECLARATIONS of their Gallantry medals. There are more, I've only listed some of them here. You are free to visit the site and find more of them.


Cricket scores? We gave them state funerals and gallantry medals along with all the fame they deserved. Your CCP gave them nothing more than a passing mention, months after the incident. Look at it that way, and its clear that you treat your soldiers even worse than you treat cricket scores. At least you know of cricket scores, you don't even know of the soldiers of yours that died. Pathetic.
Ya'll Nibbiars yeah The Paki members on the SDF were making fun of this and the Chinese members were just watching like they can't do nothing later they stopped arguing and the paki memebers ranted this for days and days a complete disgrace even on their own forum made a total fun of it's literally of the deads. Specially that memebrs named Figaro or something similar.
 

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So, it took 8 months to fabricate the bravery of '4 martyrs'. And another 5 months to remember the Regimental Commander who was butchered too. And spare the BS that peace-loving CCP didn't want to vitiate the atmosphere for disengagement talks because that had not happened until then. Yawn. Wumaos should stick to the 'Murican Liberal disheartening campaign because that's the only place they're ever gonna make a dent.
 

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Didn't post here dosen't mean it not happened. Just don't want forum members to judge passed away soldiers...

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1.) I see only one man's photo.
2.) Wonder why the photos of wreath laying ceremony are available, but not the photos of the funeral itself? Hmm...must be because these photos were staged days after the guy was killed in Galwan and the staged photos were released as a damage control option to firefight the accusations of "why China doesn't recognize its fallen soldiers when India recognizes them immediately".
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Where are photos of their coffins being driven around in decorated trucks and motorcycle escorts like these photos you posted :-
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Your whole psychology revolves around videos and photos and trying to piece information together, which might be due to CCP's style of ruling: censorship. Well, here in India, we look at official statements, not "videos" or "photos". Either official statements or free media (You might not be aware but outside China, there is something called a free media which is media without censorship! Shocking for you, I know, but pretty normal for us). Maybe you missed the Gallantry awards that Indian soldiers who died in Galwan got. You can check their awards on this site, they have detailed citation for their awards:-
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4950
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4952
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4955
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4953
https://www.gallantryawards.gov.in/awardee/4954
^These are links to the OFFICIAL DECLARATIONS of their Gallantry medals. There are more, I've only listed some of them here. You are free to visit the site and find more of them.
Awarded passed away officers and soldiers are must-do for an army, both India & China did so. I still didn't see any video of battle if IA was "controlling the battle". Anyway, no interest to debate with you.
 

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Awarded passed away officers and soldiers are must-do for an army, both India & China did so. I still didn't see any video of battle if IA was "controlling the battle". Anyway, no interest to debate with you.
Typical Chinese wumao, another pathetic attempt at misdirection. We are not debating "who won". We are debating "why Chinese soldiers' funeral processions were not photographed like how this photo was photographed":-

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But you don't have an answer so ofcourse you say "I am not interested in debating with you".
 

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No intrest to debate this issue on this thread, especially if we are discussing something, you go personal instead.

Just few question:

If India really "win" the battle, why there were 20+ IA soliders captured by PLA (there were news reported), you would check data for 1962 war, China won it and got 3000+ POW, India lost it and captured less than 10;

Before CCTV release the video of battle, the India side didn't release any clip, if the team didn't collapse, how possible ...

After the video been release, the only clear face from IA get rewarded ...

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It's not about CCP, it's about simple logic. Again, i don't care you insist your pov or not, I am busy.
You remember that you won 1962 and even we do and we accepted all our casualties
But in 1967 clash you lost and due to which your nation didn't escalate it and which led to Indian victory
And please check how many of your soldiers died and how many did you recognize
You and Pakistan are same when it comes to accepting any casualty
 

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1.) I see only one man's photo.
I gave the search word only with one soldier's name, i can search more。


2.) Wonder why the photos of wreath laying ceremony are available, but not the photos of the funeral itself? Hmm...must be because these photos were staged days after the guy was killed in Galwan and the staged photos were released as a damage control option to firefight the accusations of "why China doesn't recognize its fallen soldiers when India recognizes them immediately".
Because China didn't want escalate the conflict into a full scale war.

PLA held 20+ IA soliders just after Galwan conflict, we have enough battery to film "the tea is fantasic sir" like video to humiliate IA like Pakistan Air Force did, but the aftermath will be endless conflict in the region.

China defined India as major competitor from secondary strategic direction, it's not good time for a full scale war at moment.

This is typical oriental mindset, i don't expect you understand it, but clearly IA recieved message.

It made me recall how Nehru tookover the Goa by force, but India lost a window access to Europe world from 1960s'; But for China, it kept HK under UK's ruling for another 40 yrs, till it became a good econoimic model we could learn from.

We know when to do / broadcast things according to good timing, you don't.

Again, we are from different culture background, i don't expect you understand, sometimes it's quite time wasting to debate with you.
 
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@CockDog hides casualties and a pic comes off of one of the butchered enemy, wumaos call it fake, later it comes out true, wonder how many had been suppressed. Haven’t yet revealed 1967 or vietnam war casualties and they want us to believe their bs, cc: @VivaVietnamm
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Wasn't a blogger arrested and punished for questioning the veracity of the stats publicized by the CCP? Possibly, he couldn't understand the Oriental mindset too. SedLyf
 

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