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[GaudaNaresh]

Dr. George Gheverghese Joseph, a member of the research team, says the findings should not diminish Newton or Leibniz, but rather exalt the non-European thinkers whose contributions are often ignored.


In few words there were poeple in India that helped but calculus still a result of Newton and Leibniz

It does diminish Newton or Leibniz - no prizes for coming second when it comes to inventions, sorry.
Calculus is a result of Newton and Leibniz ?
Ok. Then entire computer science is a result of Indians and Chinese.
Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Historical fact Spain and portugal with caravel ships came to America and went to Asia, no the other way around

But you guys have ships because we Asians built ships and taught you europeans how to build ships in the first place.

Frank Whittle develped jet engines, British citizen seems you do not like to acknowledge the western contributions

Because you want to give credit to westerners for things they didn't invent, so i wont give credit to westerners for things they did. Sounds fair, doesn't it ?

So by your playbook, in a few words, there are western people who helped but modern technology is there due to us Asians.

I know fairness is not a concept western civilisation is accustomed with.

Now, answer my question instead of dodging them.

Tell us why USA and Canada shouldn't be grateful to us for gracing them with our presence and improving their country in every single metric.

 

[NutCracker]

You guys are posting lot of OffTopic content. It might vanish into thin air if relevant thread is not found.
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Don't waste your precious time like this.

 

[MiG-29SMT]

All possible because Indians invented binary mathematics:

binary number system and indian history

Binary numbers, number system, decimal codes, computer and technology, Binary codes , information theory, digitallogic gate these things are co-realated with each other . Binary numbers we generall…

internationaljournalofresearch.com

all was possible thanks to contributions by all humanity not a single civilizaton


In in Guadalajara Mexico, Guillermo Gonzalez Camarena was an electrical engineer credited with the invention of a colour-wheel type of television. His was the first colour TV patented in the US and Mexico, and is still used by NASA today.


2. Neonatal artificial bubble. Born in Perú, Claudio Castillón Lévano invented the "neonatal artificial bubble", designed to improve the intensive medical care of high-risk newborns.
3. The contraceptive pill. Mexican chemist Luis E. Miramontes co-invented the first oral contraceptive pill in 1956.
4. The electric brake. Victor Ochoa was a Mexican inventor and revolutionary who patented the electric brake in 1907. It uses magnetic attraction to make it easier for trains to slow down. Ochoa is also known for inventing the ochoaplane, an adjustable wrench, and a pen and pencil clip, among other inventions.
5. Photography. Hércules Florence, a French-Brazilian inventor, is considered one of the pioneers of photography, developing a photograph some three years before Louis Daguerre.
7. The ballpoint pen. László József Biró, Argentinian by naturalization and Hungarian by birth, was a journalist and inventor. He designed a pen with oil-based ink and a tungsten ball that allowed the ink to roll smoothly on to paper.
8. The artificial heart. Dr Domingo Liotta was born in Argentina, the son of Italian immigrants. In 1969, he created the first artificial heart to be successfully transplanted into a human being. His creation is on display at the Smithsonian Museum.
9. Captcha codes. The annoying online access code format used to prevent spam was invented by Guatemala-born doctor Luis Von Ahn.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/06/11%20surprising%20inventions%20from%20latin%20america/

 

[GaudaNaresh]

all was possible thanks to contributionsall humanity not a single civilizaton
In in Guadalajara Mexico, Guillermo Gonzalez Camarena was an electrical engineer credited with the invention of a colour-wheel type of television. His was the first colour TV patented in the US and Mexico, and is still used by NASA today.

So when i point out these inventions come from Asia, your comment is ' all was possible thanks to contributions of all humanity, not a single civilisation'. But then you want me to acknowledge western inventions for being western inventions.
Ie, when west invents something, credit goes to the west, but when non west invents something, its ' all humanity'. So i ask again- why is your ethics so shit ? Your shit ethics and shit values are a testament to why your people are inferior to ours in your own countries at everything.
Coz your principles, values and worldview are shit.

Still waiting for answers to my question.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

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Historical fact Spain and portugal with caravel ships came to America and went to Asia, no the other way around

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Frank Whittle develped jet engines, British citizen seems you do not like to acknowledge the western contributions
Doug Engelbart reportedly conceived the mouse during a conference lecture in 1961. His first design, in 1963, used rolling wheels inspired by mechanical area-measuring devices called planimeters invented in the 1800s.

Engineers at Germany’s Telefunken also invented a mouse in the mid-1960s. First described in 1968, their version used a rolling ball—essentially a small, upside-down trackball—which became the standard for decades.

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Computer History Museum

The MouseTrackballs, light pens, and other clever pointing devices were widespread. Then the mouse was invented. Twice. (Well, at least twice.)Doug Engelbart reportedly conceived the mouse during a conference lecture in 1961. His first design, in 1963, used rolling wheels inspired by mechanical...

www.computerhistory.org

@MiG-29SMT You arguing with this nut job @GaudaNaresh ?? Put him on ignore list and move on. He has lost his mental balance and is out of touch with reality.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

Meanwhile Chinese are seeking IT jobs. Got any?

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

By the way @MiG-29SMT , how come Mexico has not summoned Chinese ambassador and given a stern warning not to launder money through the Mexican cartels?

 

[rockdog]

Different batches of J20 on front changes.

 

[sameer3694]

Lot of Chinese migrants coming to the US, settling in Chinatowns. They seem to like their lives in the US.

From China to New York, by Way of the Southern Border

Thousands of Chinese migrants have made their way to Queens, Brooklyn and Chinatown after first passing through Central and South America.

www.nytimes.com

Note that a lot of Indian migrants are going to the US too, but what's surprising is that despite China being almost 5-6 times richer than India on a per capita basis so many people are fleeing.

 

[Overlord]

@MiG-29SMT You arguing with this nut job @GaudaNaresh ?? Put him on ignore list and move on. He has lost his mental balance and is out of touch with reality.

Lol, the cope of amreeki jeet & the likes of them
Can't handle truth when countered with actual facts & the articles. Keep ignoring the truth & live life of a frog, your little bubble will burst & would be the worst hit when amreeka show it's true anti Indian colours.
Na Ghar ke rhoge na ghat ke.

Already started with Indian hatred there & recent killings of Indians

 

[omaebakabaka]

Lol, the cope of amreeki jeet

bhai I think he is a bhaiyya from lucknow

 

[Overlord]

bhai I think he is a bhaiyya from lucknow

That's why I said "amreeki jeet" not amreeki

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

Lol, the cope of amreeki jeet & the likes of them
Can't handle truth when countered with actual facts & the articles. Keep ignoring the truth & live life of a frog, your little bubble will burst & would be the worst hit when amreeka show it's true anti Indian colours.
Na Ghar ke rhoge na ghat ke.

Already started with Indian hatred there & recent killings of Indians

Another loony baba. Amreeka has already showed its anti-Indian colors several times in the past. In foreign policy, nothing is constant. Right now Amreeka sees us favorably and is a security partner. What happened in the past or what will happen in the future is irrelevant to discussions now. In any case you are not exposed to what exactly is happening to Indian Americans in the US as I am. I may live in Lucknow but I travel quite a bit to the US and other western countries. Indian Amreeksis are finding it tough not because of what you say but because of lobbies like BLM, DEI, etc which are depriving opportunities for them. Amreeka is also going the aatma nirbhar way. So that will impact their foreign policy hugely but that does not mean they are not our security partner.
Relationship between nations is not simple like between kids in school - friends or enemies. It is complicated and based on each country’s interests, which sometimes converge and other times diverge.
Example: Amreeka pissed off France massively with the AUKUS nuclear submarine deal, kicking out France. Since then, Amreeka-France relations have not been good though they are all G7.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Lot of Chinese migrants coming to the US, settling in Chinatowns. They seem to like their lives in the US.

From China to New York, by Way of the Southern Border

Thousands of Chinese migrants have made their way to Queens, Brooklyn and Chinatown after first passing through Central and South America.

www.nytimes.com

Note that a lot of Indian migrants are going to the US too, but what's surprising is that despite China being almost 5-6 times richer than India on a per capita basis so many people are fleeing.

More than a few of the migrants became big stars on Douyin -- Chinese TikTok -- with millions of views. In fact, some of them funded their trips that way!

Chinese migrants are flocking to the southern border, and some have Chinese TikTok guides on how to enter the US: CBS

Chinese migrants entering the US through a gap in a border fence told 60 Minutes that they learned about it on Douyin, the Chinese version of TikTok.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[MiG-29SMT]

By the way @MiG-29SMT , how come Mexico has not summoned Chinese ambassador and given a stern warning not to launder money through the Mexican cartels?

they have reported in the news but I have not hear other news.

In addition to lowering the commission for money laundering from 10 to 1 percent, the Chinese mafia delivers the laundered money almost immediately, which caused the cartels to replace their Mexican compatriots with Asians, who are punctual, methodical, disciplined and “ honest.” In the last five years alone, the DEA detected a dozen networks that constitute a sophisticated “new threat” to the fight against organized crime.

https://www.milenio.com/policia/mafia-china-cobra-menos-lavar-dinero-carteles-mexicanos-clientes

 

[MiG-29SMT]

Another loony baba. Amreeka has already showed its anti-Indian colors several times in the past. In foreign policy, nothing is constant. Right now Amreeka sees us favorably and is a security partner. What happened in the past or what will happen in the future is irrelevant to discussions now. In any case you are not exposed to what exactly is happening to Indian Americans in the US as I am. I may live in Lucknow but I travel quite a bit to the US and other western countries. Indian Amreeksis are finding it tough not because of what you say but because of lobbies like BLM, DEI, etc which are depriving opportunities for them. Amreeka is also going the aatma nirbhar way. So that will impact their foreign policy hugely but that does not mean they are not our security partner.
Relationship between nations is not simple like between kids in school - friends or enemies. It is complicated and based on each country’s interests, which sometimes converge and other times diverge.
Example: Amreeka pissed off France massively with the AUKUS nuclear submarine deal, kicking out France. Since then, Amreeka-France relations have not been good though they are all G7.

The USA has no border with India, this reduces conflict, the USA does not share areas where resources can be found.

In terms of conflict, China is more of a threat simply because the common border means resources are on dispute, same other nations in Asia.


Mexico in the other hand has potential conflcit with the USA due to drugs, Illiegal Immigration and even water.

Another factor is India is not in conflict with USA allies, in fact Australia or Japan are allied to India.

Both China and Russia would love Mexico get in conflict with the USA, some loons in the USA and even in Mexico think we have not common interest.

However like you said for the Moment the USA is not in direct conflict with Mexico or India.

China has conflcit wth the USA because China is willing to reduce the american presence in the Asia-Pacific.
Further more commercial policies are affecting the american interests in Asia and in commerce
.

Politics are another factor both India and Mexico are democracies, China is not, thus that generates more conflict..

Recent history is another factor.

Mexico last conflcit with the USA was in 1917 when US forces entered Mexico, however India had conflcit with China in the late XX century and China is armed with nuclear weapons.


Mexico has abandoned the nuclear option thus reducing the potential conflcit with the USA.

In my personal opinion India has much less threat from the USA than from China simply because a common border and military conflict for the same border in recent history.

Thus the military aid of the US is to help an ally with a common rival aka Chna which represents a common geopolitical threat

 

[GaudaNaresh]

The USA has no border with India, this reduces conflict, the USA does not share areas where resources can be found.

In terms of conflict, China is more of a threat simply because the common border means resources are on dispute, same other nations in Asia.


Mexico in the other hand has potential conflcit with the USA due to drugs, Illiegal Immigration and even water.

Another factor is India is not in conflict with USA allies, in fact Australia or Japan are allied to India.

Both China and Russia would love Mexico get in conflict with the USA, some loons in the USA and even in Mexico think we have not common interest.

However like you said for the Moment the USA is not in direct conflict with Mexico or India.

China has conflcit wth the USA because China is willing to reduce the american presence in the Asia-Pacific.
Further more commercial policies are affecting the american interests in Asia and in commerce

And USA is in conflict with an ally of India - Russia.
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Politics are another factor both India and Mexico are democracies, China is not, thus that generates more conflict..

Yes, because USA has had such conflict with the countless autocracies in Latin America and Middle east, eh ?

In my personal opinion India has much less threat from the USA than from China simply because a common border and military conflict for the same border in recent history.

Thus the military aid of the US is to help an ally with a common rival aka Chna which represents a common geopolitical threat

Your opinion is wrong. USA has deemed India as a long term threat to USA, because as India develops, India will steal the crown of 'leader of the free world', as India too is a democracy. This is why USA has consistently funded anti-Indian missionary activities, supports & shelters anti-Indian terrorists and sponsors propaganda through its media houses.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

The USA has no border with India, this reduces conflict, the USA does not share areas where resources can be found.

In terms of conflict, China is more of a threat simply because the common border means resources are on dispute, same other nations in Asia.


Mexico in the other hand has potential conflcit with the USA due to drugs, Illiegal Immigration and even water.

Another factor is India is not in conflict with USA allies, in fact Australia or Japan are allied to India.

Both China and Russia would love Mexico get in conflict with the USA, some loons in the USA and even in Mexico think we have not common interest.

However like you said for the Moment the USA is not in direct conflict with Mexico or India.

China has conflcit wth the USA because China is willing to reduce the american presence in the Asia-Pacific.
Further more commercial policies are affecting the american interests in Asia and in commerce
.

Politics are another factor both India and Mexico are democracies, China is not, thus that generates more conflict..

Recent history is another factor.

Mexico last conflcit with the USA was in 1917 when US forces entered Mexico, however India had conflcit with China in the late XX century and China is armed with nuclear weapons.


Mexico has abandoned the nuclear option thus reducing the potential conflcit with the USA.

In my personal opinion India has much less threat from the USA than from China simply because a common border and military conflict for the same border in recent history.

Thus the military aid of the US is to help an ally with a common rival aka Chna which represents a common geopolitical threat

Every country acts on its own interests - border or not. It is proven that nations with borders have a lot more Friction, unless the neighbor is completely in your orbit like Canada is in US orbit. Mexico is simply not and has a lot more independent foreign policy than Canada has, like, for example, when former Mexican president gave the finger to Trump when he asked for money to build the wall. That way India and Mexico are similar. We don’t bow down to much larger economies in the neighborhood.
The US is very different. Its real allies are probably the 5is nations. But even here, the US exerts hegemony when it suits its interests - for example, the US diverted Wuhan virus vaccines meant for Canada to the US right on the airport tarmac. Canada could not do a thing.
The US‘ policy is to dominate. And they are having significant meltdowns from not being able to dominate outcomes of Russian-UK war, Israel-Hamas war, loss of Saudi Arabia as a key ally etc. So they have retreated into a shell.
Now the China-US standoff is interesting. While the US is securing its strategic interests vis-a-vis China, there is a huge Wall Street lobby that favors re-engagement with China. This is because, unlike India, China threw the doors open to US investment without much restrictions. This has produced several billionaires in the US who pretty much dictate US policy these days.
India is much more standoffish and won’t allow the US to get rich off of India as generously as CHina did. Indian government coming up with its own digital payment system while China completely surrender to American banks for payment mechanism management thereby allowing American Banks especially Investment Banks to get filthy rich. Look at how Mitch McConnell married a Chinese lady who is the daughter of the chairman of the largest Chinese shipping company. Later this lady was made US transportation secretary due to Mitch’s influence. The US politicians and Chinese CCP have always had a symbiotic relationship. So the Wall Street still loves China and the CCP.
The US has to work harder and woo India a lot more if it needs to get India’s trust. They have made some beginnings with strategic tech transfer and weapons deals to look like India’s ally for now. The jet engine tech transfer is huge. But it is very possible that they get frustrated and revert to a neutral position - neither help nor harm. - on India. And once again count China as their Asian partner of choice which will piss off Japan, Taiwan,S.Korea, Australia etc. But the good news is we can count on CCP under Xi to make stupid moves and completely push Americans to form a strategic ring around China with Japan, India, the Philippines, S.Korea and Australia as partners. All this game is just evolving. By 2030 it should be much clearer as to who stands with whom and how the long term geopolitical and geostrategic positions look due to India’s rise.
By economy size; the US, China and India will be the big 3 by 2030 and strategic alliances and games will be played among these economies. But the chances of these economies going to big scale war are pretty limited (unless Xi does something really really stupid of course like the invasion of Taiwan). This is the only long term thing that is clear as of now. Everything else is in rapid swings here and there too difficult to speculate what will happen.

 

[MiG-29SMT]