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Much of that is also due to pandemic-based economy. The fact remains that most Chinese workers saving dried up during the pandemic and many are worse off for it; a fact not shown by Chinese Communist Party propaganda. The Chinese Communist Party data also fails to show how millions more (minorites and political prisoners from Hong Kong and elsewhere) have become slaves in labor camps, factories and prisons. They are much worse off, but that is never reflected in big macro-economic figures that only show the totals, whether due to higher power consumption in factories or greater profits due to the exploitation of Chinese laborers and slaves in concentration camps.
I m very happy see your conclusion about how China's econpmy running. Please circluate your logic as much as possible in Indian's academic area. I hope most India's economic policy decision maker buy it, it would help India's ambition to catch up China.
 

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I m very happy see your conclusion about how China's econpmy running. Please circluate your logic as much as possible in Indian's academic area. I hope most India's economic policy decision maker buy it, it would help India's ambition to catch up China.
We are not in a race of catching up ,we are deciding our trajectory with our own goals , own shortcomings , our government don't have luxury of control over whole of land of country , our land area is smaller than yours , our policy makers sabotaged our own growth multiple times , we didn't got full backing of west that china got initially , we have a service sector more developed than our manufacturing , but we are trying to fill gaps in manufacturing and increasing service sector manifold .

We didn't occupied some nation like tibet , in steel production we are sufficient for our demand rught now ,and on second position world wide in production , as we grow more this gonna increase , our road construction frenzy is going on to fill needs which will bring down our logistics cost , freight corridor are being built , inland waterways development frenzy is on boards and wil start from this year only .


No one is copying china model , we don't do tianmen square massacre , we don't fuel insurgency in neighborhood to destabilize like china do in indian NE .

We are luring industries with pli schemes , and more to follow , results will be visible in 5 yeaes or so .

Our population won't be shrinking after 20 years , but China's will .

We have time and we are using it
 

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No communist or "slave" society could create wealth like China's. Communist and slave societies are consumption poor. China, on the other hand, consumes more than anyone else on the world and has the largest manufacturing sector by FAR -- half of the world's steel is used by China alone!

There is no way a communist society (like North Korea or USSR) could ever be number one in the global market for movies or computer and internet games like China. And there is no way for a slave society (like the American Confederacy which was based on plantations) to be manufacturing giant like China.

In order to consume the most cars, beef, beer, $2k handbags, high speed rail, ships, movies, etc. in the world as China does you need a broad based middle class. China has the world's biggest middle class. And this middle class is still growing.


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In the 1950s, over 90% of the global middle class resided in Europe and North America. Today, over 20% live in China. China is experiencing the fastest expansion of the middle class the world has ever seen ... By 2027, we estimate that 1.2 billion Chinese will be in the middle class, making up one quarter of the world total.

China already makes up the largest middle-class consumption market segment in the world and is a priority market for major multinational firms. Chinese middle-class consumption initially followed the growth path of the Western middle class, with increasing consumer demand for higher quality products, large investments in home ownership, and vehicle purchases. It is now setting its own middle-class trends. Chinese fintech and e-commerce platforms are changing the way consumers and sellers interact, and they are exporting this knowledge to other developing countries."

Also, China is 94% Han Chinese. So the Chinese market is very homogenous and very unified. People get wealthy and advance in a pretty broad front.
 

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We are not in a race of catching up ,we are deciding our trajectory with our own goals , own shortcomings , our government don't have luxury of control over whole of land of country , our land area is smaller than yours , our policy makers sabotaged our own growth multiple times , we didn't got full backing of west that china got initially , we have a service sector more developed than our manufacturing , but we are trying to fill gaps in manufacturing and increasing service sector manifold .

We didn't occupied some nation like tibet , in steel production we are sufficient for our demand rught now ,and on second position world wide in production , as we grow more this gonna increase , our road construction frenzy is going on to fill needs which will bring down our logistics cost , freight corridor are being built , inland waterways development frenzy is on boards and wil start from this year only .


No one is copying china model , we don't do tianmen square massacre , we don't fuel insurgency in neighborhood to destabilize like china do in indian NE .

We are luring industries with pli schemes , and more to follow , results will be visible in 5 yeaes or so .

Our population won't be shrinking after 20 years , but China's will .

We have time and we are using it
No interest at all to debate politics in this thread, only talk one related issue:

U have almost same population as ours, but only 60% of them are labour force comparing China. One side your social structure is old so your women are not go out for work, also massive of your youth are not well educated. Your demographic dividend are wasted.

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Not true at all. The entire Roman empire was built on the backs of slaves. WW2 Germany was built on the backs of slaves (Jewish and other minorites from several countries). Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is just another in a long line of exploitation states. The CCP and their friends make up the top class that live in shiny big cities and buy luxury items, but the wealth in those shiny cities comes from the profits earned from slave labor camps as well as exploitation of the Chinese workers who work for a pittance while the CCP keeps all the profits. These workers make up the majority of the Chinese population (Han or otherwise) and the day they get sick of the Chinese CCP, police and exploitation and rise up, it will be the end of the CCP. Of course the greatest profits come from the slave labor camps with Uyghurs, Tibetans, Mongolians, Muslims, other minorities and political prisoners, because they work for next to nothing. Even their organs are taken out and sold by CCP officials for profit.
CCP has actually pushed millions more people into slave labor camps in the last 2 decades after they were unfairly imprisoned by the police. These are not just minorities and political prisoners, but even common Han people arrested unfairly by the police.
 
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Chinese Police Rip People from Motorcycles and Steal Scooters
Chinese roads have a reputation for being dangerous place. But the Chinese Communist Party has launched a new mass campaign to crack down on bad driving and accidents. It involves stealing people's motorcycles and scooters and making a buck off them.
 

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Even their organs are taken out and sold by CCP officials for profit.
Do you seriously wanna talk about this kind of issues here?


According to the World Health Organisation (WHO), South Asia is now the leading transplant tourism hub globally, with India among the top kidney exporters. Each year more than 2,000 Indians sell their kidneys, with many of them going to foreigners.

... with India among the top kidney exporters.

 
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It has been happening for the last 2 decades in China, especially the millions in slave labor camps. But because of the censorship by the Chinese Communist Party, it never gets reported.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...-to-harvest-organs-for-transplant-new-report/
China Killing Prisoners To Harvest Organs For Transplant: BMC Report Accuses China Of ‘Falsifying’ Data
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China Killing Prisoners To Harvest Organs For Transplant: BMC Report Accuses China Of ‘Falsifying’ Data
A new study alleges the data behind China's claims that forced organ harvesting has ceased have been falsified and manipulated.

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China Killing Prisoners To Harvest Organs For Transplant: BMC Report Accuses China Of ‘Falsifying’ Data


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In June, I reported on the China Tribunal in London, which found evidence of "forced organ harvesting" from Chinese prisoners, including Falun Gong and Uighur Muslims. The Tribunal’s final judgment concluded that this "forced organ harvesting has been committed for years... on a significant scale.” China has said that the practice has been outlawed, replaced with a system of voluntary donations. But a new report, published on November 14 in the BMC Medical Ethics journal, has refuted this, alleging that those claims of reform are being supported by the “systematic falsification and manipulation of official organ transplant datasets in China.”

The China Tribunal used first-hand testimony from former detainees and implausible transplant availability and short waiting times to shape its findings. The witness reports were horrific—including organ extractions on live victims, subsequently killed by the procedures. A 2015 documentary claimed China’s illegal organ transplant industry is worth $1 billion each year—but China insists that forced extractions have stopped, that its efforts to reform date back to 2010, with a system of voluntary donations replacing forced organ harvesting from prisoners.

Not so, says the BMC article, claiming that China is “artificially manufacturing organ transplant donation data.” The report says its findings mean that any trust in China’s organ harvesting system “has been violated,” that the reforms were “a mask for the continued use of non-voluntary donors or donors who are coerced into giving organs.” In short, the allegation is that the new system of voluntary donations operates alongside and not instead of forced extractions. The giveaway, according to the report, is patterns in the state’s data which are too neat to be genuine—they must be falsified.

Sources behind the forensic data analysis deployed by the report’s authors included the China Organ Transplant Response System (COTRS) and the Red Cross Society of China. Data that found mathematical patterns that defy expected statistical anomalies. In others words, the official China reports emanate from a PR spreadsheet and not from any kind of genuine on the ground analysis and genuine data.

Susie Hughes from the International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse in China (ETAC), which initiated the China Tribunal, welcomed the findings, warning that the report “exposes the lies and deception that mark China’s so-called transplant ‘reforms.’ The falsification of the China Organ Transplant Response System (COTRS) data appears to be part of an elaborate coverup that disguises the state-run mass murder of innocent people for their organs in China.”

Earlier this year, David Spiegelhalter, a former president of the Royal Statistical Society, reviewed the core analysis, commenting that “the anomalies in the data examined follow a systematic and surprising pattern—the close agreement of the numbers of donors and transplants with a quadratic function is remarkable and is in sharp contrast to other countries who have increased their activity over this period. I cannot think of any good reason for such a quadratic trend arising naturally.”

Responding to the Tribunal’s findings in June, the Chinese Embassy in London said its "government always follows World Health Organisation’s guiding principles on human organ transplant, and has strengthened its management on organ transplant in recent years. On 21 March 2007, the Chinese state council enacted the regulation on human organ transplant, providing that human organ donation must be done voluntarily and gratis.” The embassy has been approached for any comments on the claims made in this latest report. The China Red Cross and China Medical Board have also been approached for any comments on the study and its findings.

As tensions continue between the U.S. and China over alleged human rights abuses, with sanctions including restrictions placed on leading Chinese companies, this report will be seriously unhelpful to Beijing and its claims that the U.S. is painting a misleading picture of the country. This is especially true of Xinjiang and the region’s Uighur Muslim minority, which has prompted sanctions on a number of China’s surveillance technology giants and which also finds itself central to claims of forced organ harvesting. By contrast, the case being made by the U.S. will be strengthened.
 

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No interest at all to debate politics in this thread, only talk one related issue:

U have almost same population as ours, but only 60% of them are labour force comparing China. One side your social structure is old so your women are not go out for work, also massive of your youth are not well educated. Your demographic dividend are wasted.

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Cause mr genius , we have a huge unformal economy unaccounted , also your jibe on women participation is a matter of time , we already have lot of women and more are going to join in upcoming decade ,
 

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China is harvesting thousands of human organs from its Uighur Muslim minority, UN human-rights body hears
  • The UN Human Rights Council heard on Tuesday that China is engaged in widespread harvesting of human organs from persecuted religious and ethnic minorities.
  • The China Tribunal made the accusation at the council's meeting in Geneva, Switzerland. It said Uighur Muslims and the Falun Gong religious group were affected.
  • The China Tribunal is a group backed by an Australian human rights charity that's investigating the issue.
  • A lawyer for the group said China was "cutting out the hearts and other organs from living, blameless, harmless, peaceable people," describing the situation as an atrocity.
  • China has denied large-scale harvesting of organs. It has acknowledged using executed prisoners' organs in the past but says it stopped in 2015, according to Reuters.
China was accused on Tuesday of harvesting human organs from persecuted groups in the country.

The China Tribunal, a group that's investigating the organ harvesting, said at a tense meeting of the United Nations Human Rights Council that the Chinese government was taking hearts, kidneys, lungs, and skin from groups including Uighur Muslims and members of the Falun Gong religious group.

The China Tribunal describes itself as an "independent, international people's tribunal, and was backed by the International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse in China, an Australian human rights charity made up of lawyers, academics, and medical professionals.

China has denied carrying out mass harvesting of organs in any circumstance.

Addressing UN representatives, a lawyer for the China Tribunal, Hamid Sabi, said the group had proof of the organ harvesting.

Sabi said the group had found that China was committing "crimes against humanity" by harvesting organs from religious minorities like the Uighurs and members of Falun Gong, which has been banned and widely persecuted by the Chinese government.

Read more: A wave of Islamic countries started to stand up to China over its persecution of its Muslim minority. But then they all got spooked.

"Forced organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience, including the religious minorities of Falun Gong and Uighurs, has been committed for years throughout China on a significant scale," Sabi said in a video published on the China Tribunal website.

Members of Falun Gong spiritual movement. Jewel Samad / AFP / Getty
Sabi was presenting evidence from the tribunal's final report, published in June, which found that a "very substantial number" of prisoners were "killed to order" by the Chinese government.





They were "cut open while still alive for their kidneys, livers, hearts, lungs, cornea and skin to be removed and turned into commodities for sale," the report said.

The body parts were then used for medical purposes, it said, citing extremely short wait times for organ transplants in Chinese hospitals as evidence of the practice.

The report was led by Sir Geoffrey Nice, a British lawyer who was the lead prosecutor in the trial of Slobodan Milosevic, the former Yugoslavian president.

Read more: Chilling undercover footage taken inside China's most oppressive region shows it's virtually impossible to escape the paranoid police state





Hamid Sabi, a lawyer for the China Tribunal. Screenshot/The Independent
Sabi told the UN council on Tuesday that China's efforts involved "hundreds of thousands of victims," describing it as "one of the worst mass atrocities of this century."





He did not specify how many organs the China Tribunal believes had been harvested, or the number taken from Uighurs and from Falun Gong members.

"Victim for victim and death for death, cutting out the hearts and other organs from living, blameless, harmless, peaceable people constitutes one of the worst mass atrocities of this century," he said.

"Organ transplantation to save life is a scientific and social triumph, but killing the donor is criminal."

Reuters said China has insisted that it "stopped using organs from executed prisoners in 2015."





The Chinese government did not immediately respond to Business Insider's request for comment on Sabi's testimony.

Sabi concluded by saying that it is the duty of international bodies like the UN to investigate the tribunal's findings "not only in regard to the possible charge of genocide, but also in regard to crimes against humanity."

China was accused on Tuesday of harvesting human organs from persecuted groups in the country.
The China Tribunal, a group that's investigating the organ harvesting, said at a tense meeting of the United Nations Human Rights Council that the Chinese government was taking hearts, kidneys, lungs, and skin from groups including Uighur Muslims and members of the Falun Gong religious group.
The China Tribunal describes itself as an "independent, international people's tribunal, and was backed by the International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse in China, an Australian human rights charity made up of lawyers, academics, and medical professionals.
China has denied carrying out mass harvesting of organs in any circumstance.
Addressing UN representatives, a lawyer for the China Tribunal, Hamid Sabi, said the group had proof of the organ harvesting.
Sabi said the group had found that China was committing "crimes against humanity" by harvesting organs from religious minorities like the Uighurs and members of Falun Gong, which has been banned and widely persecuted by the Chinese government.
Read more: A wave of Islamic countries started to stand up to China over its persecution of its Muslim minority. But then they all got spooked.
"Forced organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience, including the religious minorities of Falun Gong and Uighurs, has been committed for years throughout China on a significant scale," Sabi said in a video published on the China Tribunal website.
Members of Falun Gong spiritual movement.
Jewel Samad / AFP / Getty
Sabi was presenting evidence from the tribunal's final report, published in June, which found that a "very substantial number" of prisoners were "killed to order" by the Chinese government.
They were "cut open while still alive for their kidneys, livers, hearts, lungs, cornea and skin to be removed and turned into commodities for sale," the report said.
The body parts were then used for medical purposes, it said, citing extremely short wait times for organ transplants in Chinese hospitals as evidence of the practice.
The report was led by Sir Geoffrey Nice, a British lawyer who was the lead prosecutor in the trial of Slobodan Milosevic, the former Yugoslavian president.
Read more: Chilling undercover footage taken inside China's most oppressive region shows it's virtually impossible to escape the paranoid police state
Hamid Sabi, a lawyer for the China Tribunal.
Screenshot/The Independent
Sabi told the UN council on Tuesday that China's efforts involved "hundreds of thousands of victims," describing it as "one of the worst mass atrocities of this century."
He did not specify how many organs the China Tribunal believes had been harvested, or the number taken from Uighurs and from Falun Gong members.
"Victim for victim and death for death, cutting out the hearts and other organs from living, blameless, harmless, peaceable people constitutes one of the worst mass atrocities of this century," he said.
"Organ transplantation to save life is a scientific and social triumph, but killing the donor is criminal."
Reuters said China has insisted that it "stopped using organs from executed prisoners in 2015."
The Chinese government did not immediately respond to Business Insider's request for comment on Sabi's testimony.
Sabi concluded by saying that it is the duty of international bodies like the UN to investigate the tribunal's findings "not only in regard to the possible charge of genocide, but also in regard to crimes against humanity."
 

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No interest at all to debate politics in this thread, only talk one related issue:

U have almost same population as ours, but only 60% of them are labour force comparing China. One side your social structure is old so your women are not go out for work, also massive of your youth are not well educated. Your demographic dividend are wasted.

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Never knew I was debating with an idiot,
What are the average age of Indian and the average age of Chinese?
When you answer this, you will get to know about the labour force.

PS:- Don't be stupid on the internet.
 

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House of surrogates: Edan's story


 

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Hardeep Singh Puri:
China was India’s top imports source despite LAC crisis





Even as most of last year saw Indian and Chinese soldiers engaged in an eyeball-eyeball standoff near LAC in eastern Ladakh and violent clashes between troops in Galwan valley, China continued to remain on top of the list of countries from where India imported goods during January-December, 2020.
In 2020, India imported goods worth $ 58.71 billion from China, MoS (commerce and industry) Hardeep Singh Puri told Lok Sabha on Wednesday in reply to a question by Trinamool Congress MP Mala Roy.
In his written reply, the minister said China, USA, UAE, Saudi Arabia and Iraq were the top five countries (in that order), from where India sourced its imports.
Giving details, the reply said the top five countries from where India imported goods during 2020 (January-December) are China with goods worth $58.71 billion, the US ($26.89 billion), United Arab Emirates ($23.96 billion), Saudi Arab ($17.73 billion) and Iraq ($16.26 billion).
The minister also informed the House that, “imports take place to meet the gap between domestic production and supply, consumer demand and preferences for various items”. The major items of import from China, according to the minister, were “products such as telecom instruments, computer hardware and peripherals, fertilizers, electronic components/instruments, project goods, organic chemicals, drug intermediates, consumer electronics, electrical machinery etc.
Source: Times of India


 

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China vs Australia: Buying Up Strategic Resources
China and Australia are in a brutal trade war. But the Chinese Communist Party has successfully infiltrated Australian politics. Who will come out on top? This is a highlight from the full China Unscripted episode: How Things Can Still Get Worse in Hong Kong with activist Max Mok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W78qx...
 

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China's economy grows by a record 18.3% in the first quarter


Hong Kong (CNN Business)China just posted its strongest quarterly growth on record as the world's second largest economy continued its robust recovery from the coronavirus pandemic.
GDP growth of 18.3% year-on-year in the first quarter was the strongest since China began keeping records in 1992, and was driven by a surge in retail sales, industrial production and investment in fixed assets.
The big jump reflects the deep slump in activity in early 2020 but it keeps China on track for growth of between 8% and 9% in 2021, economists said, far ahead of the Chinese government's official target of more than 6%.


"We are fully confident that we can maintain the current recovery momentum throughout the year," said Liu Aihua, a spokeswoman for the National Bureau of Statistics at a press conference in Beijing on Friday.

First quarter retail sales jumped 34% from a year ago, while fixed-asset investment in urban areas gained nearly 26%. Industrial production increased by more than 24%.
"Growth remains pretty strong at this stage as Covid losers such as consumption and [capital expenditures] are catching up," said Larry Hu, chief China economist for Macquarie Group, in a research report on Friday.
Retail sales, which took a big hit last year because of the lockdown, had improved because Beijing eased travel restrictions after the Lunar New Year holidays in February, he added. Investments in manufacturing and infrastructure also picked up pace.
Trade also provided a strong boost. Customs statistics released earlier this week showed imports jumped more than 38% last month in US dollar terms compared to a year earlier, a sign that demand within China is picking up. Exports grew by nearly 31%.
Hu said the strength in imports was broad based, indicating a "consumption recovery." And Beijing should easily hit its target of more than 6% growth for 2021. "Growth could easily go to 8-9% with the low base," Hu added.
Nomura analysts predicted Friday that China's GDP would grow 8.9% in 2021.
Last month, Premier Li Keqiang said the government had set this year's growth target at "above 6%." That's more than enough to accomplish President Xi Jinping's long-term goal for the economy, though still less aggressive than some observers have said they would like to see. Some analysts have said the cautious target indicates that the government is taking account of the risk that Covid-19 makes a comeback.
Earlier this month, the International Monetary Fund raised its growth estimate for China to 8.4% for this year, saying that "effective containment measures, a forceful public investment response and central bank liquidity support" had facilitated the country's recovery.

Recovery 'leveling off'
But some analysts say the outlook for the rest of this year is less certain.
Chaoping Zhu, global market strategist for JP Morgan Asset Management, said quarter-over-quarter growth is a better indicator of the current strength of the Chinese economy.

GDP grew by just 0.6% compared with the final quarter of 2020. That's the slowest pace since China began its recovery from the pandemic. In the first quarter of last year, the economy shrank a record 9.7% from the previous quarter, before bouncing back as the government eased restrictions. From the second to fourth quarters of 2020, the economy grew by 11.6%, 3%, and 2.6% respectively, quarter on quarter.
"It shows that the Chinese economy has already normalized," Zhu wrote in a note on Friday.
Julian Evans-Pritchard, senior China economist for Capital Economics, also pointed out that the 18.3% surge is largely distorted by low base effects.
"This tells us little about the economy's current momentum, however, since it reflects a much weaker base for comparison from last year's Covid-19 downturn," he said. "With the economy already above its pre-virus trend and policy support being withdrawn, China's post-Covid rebound is leveling off."
 

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As India returns to positive growth, it must think why it can’t remove poverty like China has


India must be concerned about loss of economic momentum, and because it isn’t outpacing countries that are nowhere near China in growth & development.

Whichever way one looks at it, Xi Jinping’s announcement that China has abolished absolute poverty is an epochal event. From being one of the poorest societies on earth, and accounting, along with India, for the overwhelming bulk of the world’s absolute poor, China has now reached a level of per capita income that is close to the global average (measured using purchasing power parity, or PPP). And it has raised a claimed 850 million people out of poverty.


As with all Chinese statistics, there is some quibble about the numbers. China uses as its benchmark a basic World Bank-prescribed poverty-level income figure meant for poor countries, whereas it should be using a significantly higher number meant for middle-income countries. But even with that, the poor in the country would be only about one in 20. For India, it would be half the population at that higher level, and about a tenth at the lower level.

What India can claim, more modestly than China, is that it is no longer the country with the largest number of absolutely poor people. That dubious honour now goes to Nigeria, with Congo likely to move into second place. Indeed, were it not for Covid (which has probably increased the number of the absolute poor in India), the country might well have been on the road to removing absolute poverty before the United Nations target year of 2030.


As has been frequently commented, India and China were at comparable levels of development and income 40 years ago. Now China has 2.7 times India’s per capita income (again, using PPP dollars). The multiple is more than twice as large if one uses “nominal” dollars at the market rates of exchange. The gap really opened up some time ago, before India overtook China to become the world’s fastest-growing large economy. It slipped back ahead of the dip in the pandemic year, while China has continued to grow.


By various metrics, China is now 10 to 15 years ahead of India. It reached India’s current per capita income 15 years ago. Similarly, on the Human Development Index (which takes in income, health, and education parameters), it is 15 years ahead of India. And on the more complex United Nations Index for Sustainable Development Goals (with 17 parameters), India is unlikely to get to China’s current index level in another decade.

Such comparisons with China are bound to put India (and every other country) in the shade. But India has been making progress — as testified to by its steadily improving score on the Human Development Index. Besides, as the latest Economic Survey has pointed out by using a Bare Necessities Index (a composite of water supply, electricity, sanitation, housing, etc.), the picture has improved quite noticeably in recent years.

Other metrics either present a less positive picture, or are hard to track because of the absence of data. The 2017-18 personal consumption survey numbers have been withheld on grounds of reliability, but leaked numbers suggest a shocking decline from the level six years earlier. The last detailed poverty headcount numbers go back almost a decade. Reliable employment numbers too were hard to track till the Centre for Monitoring Indian Economy (CMIE) started its regular data flow. The CMIE’s numbers showed a dip in the employment rate even before the pandemic.

What should concern India is not just this emerging picture of a loss of momentum, but also the fact that the country is not outpacing others that are not even remotely like China in their record of growth and development. On the Sustainable Development Goals, for instance, the country’s rank of 112 in 2018 dipped to 117 the following year (though the absolute index itself improved), while neighbours like Bangladesh, Nepal, and Myanmar, plus others further afield like Cambodia have either overtaken India or are pulling further ahead. Surely, India should be doing better than them, just as it has outpaced Nigeria and Congo on the poverty numbers. That is something to think about as the country heaves a sigh of relief over a return to growth after two quarters of economic decline, and looks ahead to celebrating rapid acceleration next year.
 

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The China success story is a carefully crafted fiction created by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) through the use of propaganda/paid articles in foreign press, fudged/cherrypicked statistics and censorship in China. The fact is that over the last 2 decades, while the Chinese Communist Party and its friends in big cities have gotten richer; it was because of the profits harvested from slave labor camps that have increased in number in Xinjiang, Tibet, Mongolia and elsewhere. In fact millions more have been forced into these forced labor camps in Xinjiang and elsewhere over the last 2 decades. These slave (forced) labor camps have millions of Uyghurs, Tibetans, other minorities and political prisoners who work for free. Even common factory workers in China make low wages and are the cheapest labor available. Thus all the money and profits in China sit at the top with the CCP and their friends in big cities, while most of the Chinese population still lives in poverty, but since the media is controlled by the CCP, the foreigners are only shown the glimmer of the big cities populated by the CCP and friends. Note how the CCP police is stealing scooters as shown in the news story video I posted above.
 

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The China success story is a carefully crafted fiction created by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) through the use of propaganda/paid articles in foreign press, fudged/cherrypicked statistics and censorship in China. The fact is that over the last 2 decades, while the Chinese Communist Party and its friends in big cities have gotten richer; it was because of the profits harvested from slave labor camps that have increased in number in Xinjiang, Tibet, Mongolia and elsewhere. In fact millions more have been forced into these forced labor camps in Xinjiang and elsewhere over the last 2 decades. These slave (forced) labor camps have millions of Uyghurs, Tibetans, other minorities and political prisoners who work for free. Even common factory workers in China make low wages and are the cheapest labor available. Thus all the money and profits in China sit at the top with the CCP and their friends in big cities, while most of the Chinese population still lives in poverty, but since the media is controlled by the CCP, the foreigners are only shown the glimmer of the big cities populated by the CCP and friends. Note how the CCP police is stealing scooters as shown in the news story video I posted above.
You are right, not only them, but all Chinese people are being forced to work Including me. Despite paying me $1,200 a month.

But, that is also forced, I do not want to work I just want to play games, but think about the children's education, think about next year's insurance, think about the car's gas money, forget it, forced to work by money.
 

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At least the Chinese Communist Party's 50 cent propaganda army are doing a lot better than the Uyghurs, other minorities and political prisoners (as well as common innocent Chinese people imprisoned unfairly for stupid reasons) being forced to work for nothing in CCP concentration camps in Xinjiang, Tibet and elsewhere. But you will not hear about them from the CCP-controlled news media in China or from brainwashed CCP propagandists blind to the truth.
 
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