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China's per capita GDP expected to reach 10,000 USD: Xi
Source: Xinhua| 2019-12-31 19:05:03|Editor: huaxia
BEIJING, Dec. 31 (Xinhua) -- China's per capita gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to reach 10,000 U.S. dollars in 2019, Chinese President Xi Jinping said Tuesday when delivering a New Year speech in Beijing.
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China tops chemistry research ranking, leaving US in second place
BY KATRINA KRÄMER2 JANUARY 2020

China has overtaken the US to become the biggest producer of high quality chemistry research, according to a Nature ranking. China has seen an almost 18% growth in published research since 2017, while the US’s output fell by 6% since last year.

This is the first time China has topped the Nature index, which tracks countries’ contributions to papers published in 82 leading journals. The ranking had been led by the US for three consecutive years. In November, China became home to the second largest number of highly cited researchers, behind the US.

All other top 10 nations – Germany, Japan, UK, France, South Korea, India, Canada and Spain – have kept the places they occupied since 2017. All these nations – except Spain – saw a drop in publications. The largest drop was recorded by Japan, a decrease of almost 13%. Spain, however, saw a moderate 1.3% growth in chemistry publications.

China is pushing to further increase its research output, for example by trying to recruit Chinese academics based overseas and by offering cash bonuses to domestic scientists for publications in prestigious journals. However, the country also has seen a string of scientific fraud scandals and has the seventh highest retraction rate when measured as a percentage of published papers.

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More Expat Chinese Scientists Are Returning to China
Stewart Wills
2 JANUARY 2020

The emergence of China as a research powerhouse has been one of the big themes for global science in the past four decades. Now, a study by researchers in China, the United States, and two European countries suggests that expatriate Chinese scientists working in the U.S. and Europe are increasingly returning to their homeland—a development with potentially important implications for China’s future science and research profile (Sci. Publ. Policy, doi: 10.1093/scipol/scz056).

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Since the end of the Cultural Revolution in 1976, China’s science-and-technology capabilities have experienced what the authors of the new study describe as an “exponential rise.” R&D spending in 2017 in the country reportedly amounted to RMB1.75 trillion (US$259 billion), or 2.12% of China’s rapidly expanding GDP. While that’s less than the 2.74% of GDP spent on R&D in the United States, it’s a larger percentage than the EU’s R&D share of 2.06%.

Much of China’s gain in scientific performance traces to the emergence of a large and improving scientific talent pool—which, in turn, has been tied partly to the large number of native scientists who have traveled to the United States, Europe and other areas to receive education and training. These programs are believed to have benefited China’s research performance both by virtue of the training itself, and by plugging Chinese scientists into foreign-based collaboration and publishing networks.

Since the mid-1990s, China has undertaken a series of programs to attract such expatriate scientists back to their homeland—part of a larger effort to consolidate and expand the country’s scientific leadership. But reliable statistics have been scarce, and it’s been difficult to suss out the actual impact of these programs and to quantify the impact of “mobile” researchers on Chinese science as a whole.

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To overcome some of these problems and help fill in the picture, the researchers behind the new study mined the Scopus database of the scientific-publishing conglomerate Elsevier for information on authors’ addresses over the course of their scientific careers. This allowed the team, according to the study, to “trace Chinese researchers who first published in China and subsequently published in a different country,” and to use those data as a proxy for researcher mobility.

In one result, the analysis suggested that expatriate Chinese researchers are returning to China, both from the United States and Europe, at an increasing rate. The researchers found that, as measured by their method, 4,569 Chinese scientists that had been working in the United States returned to China in 2017—69% more than the 2,703 who returned in 2010. The number who returned home from Europe, meanwhile, more than doubled, from 1,141 in 2010 to 2,371 in 2017.

High-impact returnees
The researchers also found that the impact of research published by Chinese scientists returning from foreign residence, as measured by citations, was greater than that of Chinese scientists who hadn’t left their homeland. The authors of the study tied that observation to the greater tendency of Chinese scientists who had spent time abroad both to participate in internationally coauthored collaborations and, more generally, to benefit from the “scientific social capital” built up by forging strong ties with foreign scientific systems.

One of the study’s authors, Caroline Wagner of Ohio State University, USA, noted that Chinese leaders “value the connections” with other countries as “a way to create linkages with the worldwide scientific community”—even for expatriate Chinese scientists who don’t return to the homeland. Increasingly, the new work suggests, the tendency of such scientists to return to China could bring those linkages back home, further boosting the integration of domestic Chinese science into the worldwide system.

In addition to Wagner, the authors on the study included Cong Cao of the University of Nottingham Ningbo China; Jeroen Baas of Elsevier, Netherlands; and Koen Jonkers of the European Commission, Belgium.

https://www.osa-opn.org/home/newsro...xpat_chinese_scientists_are_returning_to_chi/
 

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China's per capita GDP expected to reach 10,000 USD: Xi
Source: Xinhua| 2019-12-31 19:05:03|Editor: huaxia
BEIJING, Dec. 31 (Xinhua) -- China's per capita gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to reach 10,000 U.S. dollars in 2019, Chinese President Xi Jinping said Tuesday when delivering a New Year speech in Beijing.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-12/31/c_138669486.htm
This is quite historical, hope this year we will get last 20 millions people out of poverty line.
 

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It is fascinating to see India's foreign minister getting smitten with Chinese problem solving skills

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...ould-start-jaishankar/amp-11578327962271.html

China prepared for what they wanted to become, India should start: Jaishankar

New Delhi: A “big" lesson India can learn from China is to imbibe its problem solving mindset as India evolves from a civilisational society into a modern nation state like its giant northern neighbour, Indian foreign minister S. Jaishankar said on Monday.

“To my mind the big learning out of China is that unless a society has the mindset to decisively address its current issues you are not going to go up in the world," Jaishankar said at the launch of a book “Pax Sinica," in New Delhi. “The more that the Indian and Chinese systems deal with each other I think a lot of Indians will pick that up," he said.

The Chinese, in a sense, look at a problem and start thinking how do I solve the problem. That is a sort of systemic mindset. Those who solve it quickly efficiently are rewarded," he said adding the whole system in China was a problem solving system similar to the ones in the US and Russia.

"In India’s case, We look at a problem and we say the problem is a problem, I wish it would go away. Our instinct is not to home in on a solution, our instinct is to kick it down the road," he said. “To me the concern I have is years of doing this today we have accumulated a legacy of problems," he said adding that the Modi government had taken steps to address these issues.

Jaishankar further said: “You don’t get to be a big league power by evolution and accident. It takes leadership, preparation and diligence." India too should develop narratives like China, one example of which is to put out core interests very clearly.
 

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Don't force China too tightly, or it will do it on its own
I still prefer Indian way, no nation blocks them and they would enjoy the good stuff all over the world and no need to invent the wheel again, just buying is OK.

No like China, China paid lots of money to EU's Galileo Stellite Navigation System, but finally the EU explelled us... Even now the System is amost failed, still China forced to deploy its own Beidou navigation system ...
 

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In this lecture, Prof. Shapiro discusses China and Vietnam as the two most successful examples of capitalist authoritarian regimes that have emerged in the post-communist era. He talks about causal drivers of growth in both countries, the reform era in China before the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests, the sequencing debate of political and economic change, on why we should rethink modernization theory and expectations for the future of democracy in China.

 

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Factually incorrect. India was bombarded with sanctions even of trading to retard all its projects in second half of past century with US hostile and same country filling China up with tech in attempts to utilize USSR and later bring down economic prowess of Japan. China got from US what India could only dream of!

India still isn't living very easy. It's just recent western tensions with China and India's now bigger economy that acts as cover for it.

Only a stupid person thinks that China's transition to a great power from a fragile giant was largely on its own attempts and not foreign attempts who had vested interests in it.

Clinton was highly generous in signing wavers that allowed critical space related tech to be transferred to China between 1996-1999, despite the reservations of the intel and security agencies.

The cap on tech transfer was lifted after the first of the Long March rockets exploded in 1996.

This link has all the details

http://www.whiteoutpress.com/timeless/how-china-conquered-america746/

February 15, 1996. A Chinese Long March 3B carrying a $200 million Loral satellite explodes 22 seconds after lilftoff.

March 14, 1996. President Clinton shifts control over regulating the export of communications satellites from the State Dept. which was primarily concerned with national security aspects of such exports, to the Commerce Dept., which is concerned with the economic benefits.

May 10, 1996. The Loral-led review commission investigating the February rocket explosion completes and passes on to Chinese officials its report, which according to the April 13, 1998 New York Times, discusses “sensitive aspects of the rocket’s guidance and control systems, which is an area of weakness in China’s missile programs.” The New York Times says that a Pentagon report concludes that, as a result of this technology transfer, “United States national security has been harmed”.

May 23, 1996. President Clinton calls for renewal of MFN for China, saying that renewal would not be “a referendum on all China’s policies,” but “a vote for America’s interests.”

June 8, 1996. China conducts an underground nuclear test.

July 21, 1996. Johnny Chung, according to the New York Times, brings Liu Chao-ying to two DNC fundraisers, including a $25,000 per couple dinner. Liu Chao-ying is a Lieutenant Colonel in the People’s Liberation Army and an executive at China Aerospace, which owns the Great Wall Industry Corp. that makes Long March rockets. Her father is the top commander of Chinese military forces. The New York Times says that Chung has told the Justice Dept. that Liu gave him the better part of $100,000 he contributed to the DNC in the latter part of 1996, and that the source of the money was the PLA.

July 29, 1996. China declares a moratorium on nuclear testing after conducting another nuclear test.

August 8, 1996. According to AP, Clinton meets again with Long Beach officials to advocate turning over the naval base to COSCO.

September 24, 1996. At the UN, President Clinton joins with the foreign ministers of China, France, Russia and Great Britain in signing the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty forbidding all testing of nuclear weapons.

November 5, 1996. President Clinton wins reelection. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the single largest Democratic donor during the election cycle was Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz, who gave $632,000 in ‘soft money’ to the Democratic Party between 1995 and 1996. The State Dept. issues regulations shifting responsibility for satellite launching licenses to the Commerce Dept.

January 1997. The Panamanian government awards the contract to operate the Atlantic and Pacific ports of the Panama Canal to a Hong Kong company, Hutchison Whampoa. China takes control of Hong Kong six months later. The United States, which is set to relinquish control of the canal next year, does not protest.

March 25, 1997. While in Beijing for a meeting with Premier Li Peng and President Jiang Zemin, Vice President Gore attends signing ceremonies for Boeing’s $685 million sale of five jetliners to China’s state-owned Civil Aviation Administration as well as a $1.3 billion joint venture between General Motors and China’s state-owned Shanghai Automotive Industry Corp.

May 1997. According to the April 13, 1998 New York Times, a classified Pentagon report reveals that Hughes and Loral scientists “had turned over expertise that significantly improved the reliability of China’s nuclear missiles” following the February 1996 rocket explosion. Hughes and Loral deny the New York Times report when it is published in 1998.

May 19, 1997. President Clinton announces that he will authorize MFN renewal for China.

October 1997. Chinese President Jiang Zemin makes a state visit to the United States. During the trip, he stops at a Hughes site to discuss satellites.

January 15, 1998. After China promises that it will no longer aid Iran’s nuclear program, President Clinton certifies that China is a reliable partner for nuclear technology exchange.

February 19, 1998. Despite opposition from the Justice Dept, President Clinton signs a waiver approving the launch of a Loral satellite from a Chinese rocket and reportedly authorizing the transfer of the same type of technology that the Pentagon said had “harmed” US security and that the Justice Dept. was investigation Loral and Hughes for their illegally transferring in 1996.
The same Bill Clinton was acerbic and vitriolic after our nuke tests in 1998 and put us under heavy sanctions.

It's just a part of it. We will probably never be able to know how much China got from US after Sino-Soviet split and France.
No like China, China paid lots of money to EU's Galileo Stellite Navigation System, but finally the EU explelled us... Even now the System is amost failed, still China forced to deploy its own Beidou navigation system ...
India didn't have access to any or GPS or Galileo either. It emerged with its own navigation system in 2016 (a bit late however).
 

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It is fascinating to see India's foreign minister getting smitten with Chinese problem solving skills

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...ould-start-jaishankar/amp-11578327962271.html

China prepared for what they wanted to become, India should start: Jaishankar

New Delhi: A “big" lesson India can learn from China is to imbibe its problem solving mindset as India evolves from a civilisational society into a modern nation state like its giant northern neighbour, Indian foreign minister S. Jaishankar said on Monday.

“To my mind the big learning out of China is that unless a society has the mindset to decisively address its current issues you are not going to go up in the world," Jaishankar said at the launch of a book “Pax Sinica," in New Delhi. “The more that the Indian and Chinese systems deal with each other I think a lot of Indians will pick that up," he said.

The Chinese, in a sense, look at a problem and start thinking how do I solve the problem. That is a sort of systemic mindset. Those who solve it quickly efficiently are rewarded," he said adding the whole system in China was a problem solving system similar to the ones in the US and Russia.

"In India’s case, We look at a problem and we say the problem is a problem, I wish it would go away. Our instinct is not to home in on a solution, our instinct is to kick it down the road," he said. “To me the concern I have is years of doing this today we have accumulated a legacy of problems," he said adding that the Modi government had taken steps to address these issues.

Jaishankar further said: “You don’t get to be a big league power by evolution and accident. It takes leadership, preparation and diligence." India too should develop narratives like China, one example of which is to put out core interests very clearly.
Our 1st problem is about consensus. If we can't agree on if there is a problem then it creates another problem.

Chinese have the ability to put the groups core interest above their own individual needs because in the long run they understand it benefits their own individual needs.

We unfortunately fare poorly in this aspect.
 

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Our 1st problem is about consensus. If we can't agree on if there is a problem then it creates another problem.

Chinese have the ability to put the groups core interest above their own individual needs because in the long run they understand it benefits their own individual needs.

We unfortunately fare poorly in this aspect.
Early sacrifices have to be made by some people for a country's future development, but sacrifices can also be a blessing in disguise, over 1.3 million rural people had to move to make room for the world biggest dam, the Three Gorges Dam 30 years ago, they were largely resettled in Chongqing and then new city Shenzhen and became city dewellers, now both Chongqing and Shenzhen had developed into China's top tier cities, they are way better off now than those who didn't move out.

 

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Early sacrifices have to be made by some people for a country's future development, but sacrifices can also be a blessing in disguise, over 1.3 million rural people had to move to make room for the world biggest dam, the Three Gorges Dam 30 years ago, they were largely resettled in Chongqing and then new city Shenzhen and became city dewellers, now both Chongqing and Shenzhen had developed into China's top tier cities, they are way better off now than those who didn't move out.

don't u consider uighurs,Tibetans and manchurians as inferior to hans that's why ccp is trying to oppress their culture.i have met one Chinese who said that most chinese dont admire shenyang aircraft corporation (which is famous for copying jets) as it lies outside mainland and people of that region are not smart.
 

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don't u consider uighurs,Tibetans and manchurians as inferior to hans that's why ccp is trying to oppress their culture.i have met one Chinese who said that most chinese dont admire shenyang aircraft corporation (which is famous for copying jets) as it lies outside mainland and people of that region are not smart.
Their number is very small and Han Chinese largely don't put any thought on racial issues, Manchus and Han are the same now, I have some Manchu blood myself, no one really consider Manchus are a real separate ethnic group now.
That one person says he doesn't like shenyang aircraft corporation means nothing, China has 1.4 billion people and that person doesn't represent any other Chinese at all.
 

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don't u consider uighurs,Tibetans and manchurians as inferior to hans that's why ccp is trying to oppress their culture.i have met one Chinese who said that most chinese dont admire shenyang aircraft corporation (which is famous for copying jets) as it lies outside mainland and people of that region are not smart.
https://www.phb123.com/xinwen/guona/31712.html

Data of 2017

Infact Tibet(90% Tibetans)enjoy the highest subsidies among all provinces, each person with USD7000/per capital from central government. This number is even 3 times higher than India's per GDP.

and Xinjiang(40% are uighurs)with 4th subsidies with USD2000/per capital, since Xinjiang has average industry ouput and lots of natural resources.

Actually comparing India's NE areas, China put more resource on the ratio of financial expendisures ...
 

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Deadly Chinese virus may have infected over 1700 people, study claims
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January 18, 2020 | 2:26pm


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A deadly virus in China may be significantly more widespread than officially reported, according to a disturbing new study.

The mysterious coronavirus, which originated in the central Chinese city of Wuhan has already caused the death of at least two people.

Wuhan health officials on Saturday confirmed four more people had contracted the virus — whose symptoms include difficulty breathing, coughing and fever — bringing the total number of reported cases to 45-50, Sky News reported.

But a new study from London’s Imperial College says the actual number of infected could be as high as 1,723 just in the city of Wuhan, the outlet reported. The virus was also found in Thailand and Japan in each case in people who had recently visited Wuhan.

“It is likely that the Wuhan outbreak of a novel coronavirus has caused substantially more cases of moderate or severe respiratory illness than currently reported,” the report stated, according to Sky News.

The virus is believed to be spread from animals to people, but the Imperial College study said person to person transmission “should not be ruled out.”

On Saturday, health officials in the city confirmed four more people had contracted the illness. Differing reports now place the total number of infections at 45 or 50 cases.

Major airports in the United States and Asia have increased screenings of passengers coming in who have traveled to the city.

SARS, another respiratory virus which originated in China, killed around 800 people between 2002-2003.

https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/deadly-chinese-virus-may-have-infected-over-1700-people-study-claims/
 

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don't u consider uighurs,Tibetans and manchurians as inferior to hans that's why ccp is trying to oppress their culture.
Why does anyone bother to oppress a culture if you consider it is inferior to your own culture?
And how exactly does CCP oppress their culture?

i have met one Chinese who said that most chinese dont admire shenyang aircraft corporation (which is famous for copying jets) as it lies outside mainland and people of that region are not smart.
Firstly for the matter of fact, only half of military fans don't like them, and another half do think they did a fantastic job.
Secondly, what dos it lied outside mainland? why do Chinese care whether or not they lied OUTSIDE MAINLAND?
Thirdly, there are a lot of people don't like people of that region, because various reasons: they are noisy, ruthless, stubborn. But no one thinks that they are not smart. Do you know why? Because the ancestors of the majority of people over there were the immigrants within last 100 years from ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
 

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The funny thing of this so called "Oppressing Manchurian culture" is that Manchurian did to themselves. According to the autobiography of the last Manchu emperor, himself couldn't understand Manchu language. The more interesting thing was: the Manchurian nobles couldn't understand either, except few old scholars.
 

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