AWACS will change Asia's military dynamics

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i think the a330 is a better choice....main quality is its range of 13000 kms vs 5000kms of the il76s,they may be costly but quality always wins over quantity
 

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What crap!!!.

First, in order to take down AWACS they need to come into the Indian territory to fire their, till now, non-existent BVR missiles (AMRAAMs). The moment their A/Cs enter Indian territory they should be able to with stand our SAMs and our A/Cs equipped with existent BVR missiles.

Second, the moment their A/Cs take off they are under the radar of AWACS and will be tracking them all along their way and will give necessary instructions to our SAM batteries and A/Cs to take them down.

They should be out of their mind, if there is any, to talk like this.
 

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What their chief said was only to cater to the domestic audience. Do you actually expect the Pakistani public to go into a detailed analysis as to how they will fare against India?

All they will see is a (crappy, spineless, hiding behind the border) Indian AWACS against 500 (supreme, all powerful) US missiles and will believe the missiles are god sent.
 

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First, in order to take down AWACS they need to come into the Indian territory to fire their, till now, non-existent BVR missiles (AMRAAMs).
Just nitpicking. Pakistan has Chinese PL-12 BVR missiles, which are claimed to have 100+ km range. :D
 

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Sorry admis but WTF is that the PL -12 BVR +100 KMS What bull shit
 

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and besides wouldnt the Falcons be guarded by our flanker boys
 

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Hehe, maybe its Chinese propaganda, but anyways, here it is :p

PL-12 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not saying anything. Believe what you want. :D
Well, it looks like a crappy missile and never heard about it before. Anyways, one thing is for sure, they will not be able to touch AWACS, they don't have means or ways to it with their existing or near future capabilities.
 

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What does this joker mean to say? That we should stop modernising our defence because our hostile neighbour feels threatened by it? I would like to know how many of these missiles make it within a hundred miles of these aircraft. And who said the Phalcons are meant for these spineless mangy terrorists anyways, they cant even tackle the Taliban riding Toyota pickup trucks.
 

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Well, it looks like a crappy missile and never heard about it before. Anyways, one thing is for sure, they will not be able to touch AWACS, they don't have means or ways to it with their existing or near future capabilities.
I'll give you guys a hint.

If this PL-12 was as good as claimed, the PAF wouldn't be jumping up and down for the AMRAAMs as it is doing now. :wink: :D
 

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and I dont think that the yanks will give the Top of the Line Amrams to the paf
 

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and I dont think that the yanks will give the Top of the Line Amrams to the paf
Yes, because giving it to them will be like giving it to the Chinese. PAF may get AIM-120B at the most, not even C, as all USAF aircraft other than the F-22 use the C versions.
 

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Man i had g8 respects for the PAF beliving that it had the same professionalism as the IAF but alas i have been proven wrong
 

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From my knowledge PAF has signed the deal for Aim 120C-5. This has the older seeker though. The C-7 version has all the juicy home on jamming features.
 

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An important question? Does the Phalcon have any active ECM systems.
Eg: Band track breakers, deceptive jammers, proximity fuse jammers or any kind of stand off jammers.

AESA itself can jam. But, you will need Band track breaking jammers if you need to shake off long range missiles.

Also, the Phalcon has IR based jammers. So do they also have seduction jammers to complement it. Wedgetail carries seduction jammers.

Also, the E-3Sentry carries no Active EW suites even for self protection. My source says the American AWACS are heavily dependent on escort aircraft for any kind of protection. They mainly focus on running away.
 

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With AWACS induction, IAF pushes for air dominance in South Asia

IAF pushes for air dominance: India Today - Latest Breaking News from India, World, Business, Cricket, Sports, Bollywood.


With AWACS induction, IAF pushes for air dominance in South Asia


The Indian Air Force proposes to use its newly inducted Airborne Early Warning and Control Systems (AWACS) aircraft to achieve air dominance over South Asia.

"They are an extremely vital component of our combat potential and with it we will have enhanced situational awareness," Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major said at a ceremony held to mark the induction of the first AWACS aircraft in New Delhi.

"We will dominate the skies of our country and around with these aircraft," Major said. An AWACS is essentially a flying radar in the sky. Unobstructed by the curvature of the earth or other line-of-sight obstacles, it can provide a clear picture of the entire ground and air scenario picking up everything from moving vehicles to fighter aircraft in the sky.

Several countries in Asia including Japan and Saudi Arabia possess such platforms, India is the first Asian country to have a phased-array radar which has a range of over 400 km and can be used for tactical surveillance of airborne and surface targets and intelligence gathering to a radius of over 400 km.

Unlike the mechanically steered radomes of older AWACS, the Phalcon's solid-state phased array Elta EL/M-2075 mounted on a radome above the fuselage uses electronically steered beams. They provides a 360 degree coverage around the aircraft and it carries air force personnel on board to analyse the data and steer fighter aircraft.

AWACS have a three-fold advantage of flexibility-they can be deployed anywhere, provide much better coverage because they are mounted on an elevated platform and carry control systems and datalinks which can be used to vector fighter aircraft.

Calling the AWACS an 'extremely vital component of our combat potential', Air Chief Marshal Fali Major said the IAF was keen on acquiring more such aircraft but would like to study and integrate the first batch of three. The three AWACS are to form the newly-raised Number 50 squadron based in Agra.

The induction of the AWACS marks another step towards the IAF's quest for network centric warfare. The AWACS will be integrated with the Air Force Network (AFNET) a sophisticated communication network connecting all IAF bases and aircraft.

Over 100 IAF sites have been hooked on to the AFNET so far and 166 sites will be completed by August this year providing seamless connectivity between aircraft and bases and 'clear real time picture of the battlespace not only to the pilot but also to the man on the ground'.

In the next two years, the IAF would achieve total transparency of the battlespace, Major promised.



The Indian Air Force proposes to use its newly inducted Airborne Early Warning and Control Systems (AWACS) aircraft to achieve air dominance over South Asia.

"They are an extremely vital component of our combat potential and with it we will have enhanced situational awareness," Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major said at a ceremony held to mark the induction of the first AWACS aircraft in New Delhi.

"We will dominate the skies of our country and around with these aircraft," Major said. An AWACS is essentially a flying radar in the sky. Unobstructed by the curvature of the earth or other line-of-sight obstacles, it can provide a clear picture of the entire ground and air scenario picking up everything from moving vehicles to fighter aircraft in the sky.

Several countries in Asia including Japan and Saudi Arabia possess such platforms, India is the first Asian country to have a phased-array radar which has a range of over 400 km and can be used for tactical surveillance of airborne and surface targets and intelligence gathering to a radius of over 400 km.

Unlike the mechanically steered radomes of older AWACS, the Phalcon's solid-state phased array Elta EL/M-2075 mounted on a radome above the fuselage uses electronically steered beams. They provides a 360 degree coverage around the aircraft and it carries air force personnel on board to analyse the data and steer fighter aircraft.

AWACS have a three-fold advantage of flexibility-they can be deployed anywhere, provide much better coverage because they are mounted on an elevated platform and carry control systems and datalinks which can be used to vector fighter aircraft.

Calling the AWACS an 'extremely vital component of our combat potential', Air Chief Marshal Fali Major said the IAF was keen on acquiring more such aircraft but would like to study and integrate the first batch of three. The three AWACS are to form the newly-raised Number 50 squadron based in Agra.

The induction of the AWACS marks another step towards the IAF's quest for network centric warfare. The AWACS will be integrated with the Air Force Network (AFNET) a sophisticated communication network connecting all IAF bases and aircraft.

Over 100 IAF sites have been hooked on to the AFNET so far and 166 sites will be completed by August this year providing seamless connectivity between aircraft and bases and 'clear real time picture of the battlespace not only to the pilot but also to the man on the ground'.

In the next two years, the IAF would achieve total transparency of the battlespace, Major promised.
 

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