Astra BVRAAM

[Eastman]

Lakshya and Abhyas are designed to simulate supersonic maneuverable targets. Target drones can also carry chaff and flare dispensers. Live fire exercises and wargames often also involve heavy usage of ECM.

Supersonic or transonic? they are powered by sub mach one capable turbojet engine.

 

[hitesh]

Let the missile mature enough to compete with it's league , bachha paida nahi hua ke ghodo se race lagane chale

 

[Eastman]

Beautiful exhaust fume and shock diamond creation.
but did you guy notice the launch technique of Astra viz-a-viz other comparable missile?

 

[jmj_overlord]

Beautiful exhaust fume and shock diamond creation.
but did you guy notice the launch technique of Astra viz-a-viz other comparable missile?

same question here....but maybe after it is fully ready to use, it might be launched like the other missiles.....

 

[Eastman]

^^ never mind

 

[Eastman]

maybe it has something do with the position of launch i.e. wingtip or from near the engine nacelles .

 

[Jagdish58]

Great news , Hoping for Astra 2 soon:thumb: Chest thumping moment for all indians good going DRDO
Here comes Astra MK-1 , MK-2 is just around the corner says DRDO | idrw.org

Two more variants will make Astra a pearl in DRDO missile tech

1. Short range Astra Air to Air missile , to be used in Gunship , UAV & Fighters
2. Surface to Air missile variant , to be used in Warship , Army tracked vehicle & Air force mobile station . This would probably end the Barak , Maithri etc scams

Guys correct me if im wrong

I feel its better to have a home made cracker than a imported RDX

 

[Twinblade]

Here comes Astra MK-1 , MK-2 is just around the corner says DRDO | idrw.org

idrw.org brings first pictures of Astra MK-1 fired from Su-30 MKI which were captured by High-speed motion capture camera which were installed on Sukhoi-30 MKI using a special pylon . DRDO have informed that Astra-1 will have 44km range and Astra-2 will have range close to 100km, but sources have informed idrw.org is that Astra-2 will not replace former but will be used in combination with Astra-1 by fighter aircrafts of Indian air force.

Lol at IDRW retards, ripping off posts from DFI, BR and MP.net and passing them off as IDRW News Network.

 

[ersakthivel]

Here comes Astra MK-1 , MK-2 is just around the corner says DRDO | idrw.org

idrw.org brings first pictures of Astra MK-1 fired from Su-30 MKI which were captured by High-speed motion capture camera which were installed on Sukhoi-30 MKI using a special pylon . DRDO have informed that Astra-1 will have 44km range and Astra-2 will have range close to 100km, but sources have informed idrw.org is that Astra-2 will not replace former but will be used in combination with Astra-1 by fighter aircrafts of Indian air force.

previous info is the 44 km head on range ,they are referring is from mid altitude , i.e 8 Km altitude launch from fighter.

for sea level it will have a 20 Km range.

if it is launched at 15 Km altitude astra mk-1 is suppose to have a 80 Km plus range,

For mk-2 the range from 15 Km altitude head on is 120 Km plus was the previous info.

So it needs some clarification whether their 44 Km range for astra mk-1 is from which launch altitude .

The maximum range of Astra is to be 80 km in head-on chase and 20 km in tail chase. The missile could be launched from different altitudes - it can cover 110 km when launched from an altitude of 15 km, 44 km when fired from an altitude of eight km and 21 km when the altitude is sea-level . It will have an active homing range of 25 km. The missile has a pre-fragmented warhead and is fitted with a proximity fuze. A radar fuse already exists for the Astra, but the DRDO is currently working on a new laser fuse.

The Mark 2 version of Astra will have a maximum range of 150 km and tail chase range of up to 35 km

This is what the original info was, I dont whether anything changed in the meantime or the IDW guys took 44 km as an average figure and put it as its range.

 

[DivineHeretic]

@Eastman, @jmj_overlord

There are two ways of launching a missile:

1. Unpowered release
2. Powered release.

What the Astra did is the 2nd, i.e. A powered release. In simple terms, the missile was powered up when it left its launcher.

The other missiles were released without powering up, allowing the missile to power up after a safe separation has been achieved.

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

Random question

does missile being smokeless helps anyhow?

 

[Twinblade]

Random question

does missile being smokeless helps anyhow?

Hard to spot visually. A smoke trail is also a give away to the approximate position of launch aircraft

 

[DivineHeretic]

Hard to spot visually. A smoke trail is also a give away to the approximate position of launch aircraft

Not to mention that a smokeless combustion usually implies a higher efficiency of consumption. i.e. less of the fuel is wasted as un-burnt/partially burnt fuel vapor.

That also improves the reliability and efficiency of the engine (well, life too, but that's irrelevant to a missile anyway)

 

[Twinblade]

Not to mention that a smokeless combustion usually implies a higher efficiency of consumption. i.e. less of the fuel is wasted as un-burnt/partially burnt fuel vapor.

Not necessarily. Smoke is not just unburnt carbon, smoke can also be formed due to particulate matter of metal compounds. For eg:- APCP (Ammonium perchlorate composite propellant) which blends Ammonium Perchlorate with powdered Aluminium and a composite binding agent, leaves behind a trail of microscopic aluminium oxide particulates which form kernels for water vapour to condense upon, leaving a highly visible trail.

 

[DivineHeretic]

Not necessarily. Smoke is not just unburnt carbon, smoke can also be formed due to particulate matter of metal compounds. For eg:- APCP (Ammonium perchlorate composite propellant) which blends Ammonium Perchlorate with powdered Aluminium and a composite binding agent, leaves behind a trail of microscopic aluminium oxide particulates which form kernels for water vapour to condense upon, leaving a highly visible trail.

Absolutely, and hence my use of the qualifier 'usually'. For every fact I know, I'm assuming there would be some exceptions.

 

[laughingbuddha]

Will we see a VLS version of the Astra? Like the MICA?
It will be an alternative to the Barak-1 and definitely a lot cheaper. And faster. The Barak series lack speed as compared to their contempories (as per wiki specs).

 

[Twinblade]

Will we see a VLS version of the Astra? Like the MICA?
It will be an alternative to the Barak-1 and definitely a lot cheaper. And faster. The Barak series lack speed as compared to their contempories (as per wiki specs).

IA, IN and IAF wanted Trishul 10 years back, but the project failed to deliver. IN made an emergency purchase in the form of Barak-1, IA made an emergency purchase in form of SpyDer and IAF backed off in face of under performance of missile. Now another round of procurement is coming up with the much delayed IAF SR-SAM procurement and IA QR-SAM procurement. DRDO itself has chosen VL-MICA as the interceptor for Maitri given MICAs maneuverability (50G at 7 km vs 40G for Astra at sea level which drops further with altitude) which makes it a very good interceptor in short ranges. Going into trials with an under trial interceptor, much less into an open tender competition would had been akin to repeating the mistake of Trishul SAM. Whenever Astra is mature enough, a new variant of Maitri SR-SAM would be launched with Astra, it's inevitable, but for now Maitri will have to do with VL-Mica.

 

[laughingbuddha]

IA, IN and IAF wanted Trishul 10 years back, but the project failed to deliver. IN made an emergency purchase in the form of Barak-1, IA made an emergency purchase in form of SpyDer and IAF backed off in face of under performance of missile. Now another round of procurement is coming up with the much delayed IAF SR-SAM procurement and IA QR-SAM procurement. DRDO itself has chosen VL-MICA as the interceptor for Maitri given MICAs maneuverability (50G at 7 km vs 40G for Astra at sea level which drops further with altitude) which makes it a very good interceptor in short ranges. Going into trials with an under trial interceptor, much less into an open tender competition would had been akin to repeating the mistake of Trishul SAM. Whenever Astra is mature enough, a new variant of Maitri SR-SAM would be launched with Astra, it's inevitable, but for now Maitri will have to do with VL-Mica.

There have also been reports of development of a land based Barak-8 AMD Air and Missile Defence system for India (source: DID). Is this just speculation?

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

"All Astra systems except the RF
seeker are made in the country. The
seeker too will be produced in India
under a transfer of technology
programme. Once fully operational,
Astra will be much cheaper than
contemporary BVR missiles," said an
official.

 

[ersakthivel]

IA, IN and IAF wanted Trishul 10 years back, but the project failed to deliver. IN made an emergency purchase in the form of Barak-1, IA made an emergency purchase in form of SpyDer and IAF backed off in face of under performance of missile. Now another round of procurement is coming up with the much delayed IAF SR-SAM procurement and IA QR-SAM procurement. DRDO itself has chosen VL-MICA as the interceptor for Maitri given MICAs maneuverability (50G at 7 km vs 40G for Astra at sea level which drops further with altitude) which makes it a very good interceptor in short ranges. Going into trials with an under trial interceptor, much less into an open tender competition would had been akin to repeating the mistake of Trishul SAM. Whenever Astra is mature enough, a new variant of Maitri SR-SAM would be launched with Astra, it's inevitable, but for now Maitri will have to do with VL-Mica.

50 G at 7 km altitude for MICA.
40 G at sea level for Astra which drops further with altitude?.
Is there any altitude below sea level?
Please clarify your pov.