Armored Personnel Carriers & Infantry Fighting Vehicles

[W.G.Ewald]

Our western region is not good for wire guided missiles too may bushes and obstacles make it difficult to hit with precision

Dazzler's photos show Dragon TOW on M113 from whose inventory and how old?

 

[hitesh]

Dazzler's photos show Dragon TOW on M113 from whose inventory and how old?

Sir i think its BGM-71 TOW not M47 Dragon also known as the FGM-77
IT seems comparable to 9M133 Kornet that Indian forces uses ....

 

[Damian]

RAE 2013 will start soon. Guess what had been spotted allready?

Patria AMV? Or perhaps new Russian wheeled platform "Boomerang"?

 

[W.G.Ewald]

The Russian Army will get its first Boomerang armoured personnel carriers in 2013, a top military official has said.

Correct number of wheels, but sides slope inwards.

Patria AMV

 

[Dazzler]

Our western region is not good for wire guided missiles too may bushes and obstacles make it difficult to hit with precision

its primarily desert plain, bushes are just here and there, pretty suitable place for ATGMs

 

[Dazzler]

Sir i think its BGM-71 TOW not M47 Dragon also known as the FGM-77
IT seems comparable to 9M133 Kornet that Indian forces uses ....

different version in service, tow, 2a, 2b etc. A world of difference between 1x and 2x versions where 2b is known to have a top attack capability which Kronet lacks.

 

[Damian]

Yup folks, these are the first photos of the new Russian wheeled platform "Boomerang". Nice beast, but that main armament, it seems that vehicle is armed with automatic cannon of calliber bigger than 30mm, perhaps it is 40mm or even bigger.

 

[Broccoli]

Rumors in one point claimed it will have 57mm cannon. What about it's protection levels? Boomerang is carrying large turret with a big cannon on it and yet it is amfibious to boot, all that makes me think armor cannot be very thick in that version. Bigger caliber cannon also means less ammo and more room required for it.

Most countries have armed their new IFV's with 30mm autocannons... French using "only" 25mm in VBCI.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

According to Postnikov, medium brigades will get [among other things?] the Bumerang amphibious BTR now in development. This, says NG, is the first time anyone's heard Bumerang. But if it isn't successfully developed or produced in sufficient numbers by 2020, the army will just buy armored vehicles abroad since there's already ample precedent for this.

Postnikov on the Army and OPK (Part I) | Russian Defense Policy

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Bumerang Prototype Armored Personnel Carrier | Military-Today.com

Main photo at this site looks wrong; other specs are given.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Russian Army to Get Boomerangs in 2013 | Defense | RIA Novosti

The Russian Army will take delivery of the first Boomerang armored personnel carriers in 2013, Ground Forces chief Col Gen Alexander Postnikov said on Tuesday.

Large-scale deliveries will start in 2015, eventually replacing the BTR-82A and BTR-80 APCs currently in service, he added.

Postnikov did not provide any details about the new model but, according to some media reports, it will be an amphibious vehicle.

Dmitry Galkin, general director of the Voyenno-Promyshlennaya Kompaniya [Military-Industrial Company], said the new vehicle "will be nothing like any of the modern APCs."

"We call it 'a combat wheeled vehicle' because it will be used as a platform for an APC, infantry fighting vehicle, tank, or self-propelled gun," he said.

 

[Damian]

Russians plan to use unmanned replaceable turret modules on all their new platforms, this is heavy tracked "Armata", medium tracked "Kurganets" and medium wheeled "Boomerang".

This means that APC/IFV can be equipped with different turret modules with different armament.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Length of the barrel seem similar to S60 57mm AAA ..

Russians before planned to upgrade PT-76 with same Gun >>

Yup folks, these are the first photos of the new Russian wheeled platform "Boomerang". Nice beast, but that main armament, it seems that vehicle is armed with automatic cannon of calliber bigger than 30mm, perhaps it is 40mm or even bigger.

 

[Damian]

It might be a new 57mm automatic cannon that they were planning to develop. Either way it is a powerfull armament for such vehicle.

 

[Damian]

Ha, now it's starts to be funny. It seems that this vehicle is not "Boomerang" but a separate Russian-France cooperation project, details are unknown.

 

[Dinesh_Kumar]

To all Gurus here, posing a general question: what is difference b/w tracked and wheeled armored vehicle?
I used to be under impression that:
> Wheeled has less all terrain mobility and tracked has more, wheeled can use road network, tracked cannot as it tears up the road.
>Wheeled is more airmobile and is amphib capable, tracked is less of both.
> Wheeled is faster. and lighter, tracked slower, but lends itself to heavier Armour.

Any other views?

Context is IA wants Self Propelled Guns under Field Arty Rationalization Plan under both wheeled and tracked category.

 

[The Last Stand]

> Wheeled has less all terrain mobility and tracked has more, wheeled can use road network, tracked cannot as it tears up the road.

Somewhat true - Wheeled vehicles do have less all-terrain capabilities, but they currently have adequate mobility. Tracked vehicles need to be extremely heavy to tear roads up, tracks usually apply less pressure on the roads since the force is spread better. For a heavy 40-ton+ vehicle, yes, wheels would be better on a road network.

>Wheeled is more airmobile and is amphib capable, tracked is less of both.

True. Tracked vehicles have lesser transportation capabilities to an extent, but it still comes down to weight. 2S25 Sprut is a tracked vehicle and is air-mobile and amphibious. Also worth noting is the M8 AGS.

> Wheeled is faster. and lighter, tracked slower, but lends itself to heavier Armour.

Wheeled is usually faster, yes. Armour doesn't depend on whether it is wheeled or tracked. But designers usually prefer tracked vehicles when they add higher mass of armour.

Context is IA wants Self Propelled Guns under Field Arty Rationalization Plan under both wheeled and tracked category.

They need both. Wheeled will be easier on Logistics, no expensive tracks and bolts, etc to maintain. Tracked will perform better on rough terrain.

 

[cobra commando]

Franco-Russian ATOM Wheeled Combat Vehicle Debut at RAE-2013

A side view of the ATOM prototype, unveiled by UralVagonzavod and Renault at RAE-2013. Photo: Noam Eshel, Defense-Update

Russian Tracked vehicle manufacturer UralVagonzavod and Renault Trucks Defense of France have unveiled a collaboration program the two companies are pursuing since February 2013, to develop a heavy armored wheeled vehicle, responding to domestic and international requirements.

The ATOM heavy Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV) unveiled here at Nizhny Tagil on Wednesday was produced on the chassis similar to the one Renault is producing for the Nexter VBCI, manufacturer for the French Army.

The ATOM represent UralVagonzavod's first entry into the wheeled armored vehicle market, reflecting the company's strategy in strengthening its traditional tracked vehicle production base with wheeled vehicle platforms, for which demand is stable (unlike tracked vehicles). As a heavy vehicle platform, ATOM will be able to adapt to a number of applications, all based on a common chassis. These include troop carriers, command vehicles, combat electronic vehicle, combat engineering and recovery, and fire support platforms, mounting various weapon systems, from the 57mm cannon shown here to the 120mm gun-mortar.

Allowing UralVagonzavod to proceed with this prototype and show it publicly at the exhibition could hint on the Ministry of Defense' interest in encouraging more competition in an area that was traditionally highly regulated.

UralVagonzavod's move is see as a direct challenge to the traditional Russian Wheeled AFV manufacturer KBM, which is currently geared to produce hundreds of BTR-82 per year. However, the future of this line unclear, as the BTR-82 is in the last variant of the BTR-60 platform that has lasted almost 60 years in service. KBM is expected to release a future APC platform, either 6×6 or 8×8, in the upcoming years. However, at RAE-2013 the company unveiled the wolf, a future tactical utility vehicle that will succeed the TIGR.

Unlike the French VBCI, the ATOM shown here is equipped with an unmanned gun turret mounting a 57mm cannon of a Russian production. The cannon is delivering a firing rate of 120-140 rounds per minute, wit effective Irving range of up to six kilometers. The turret stores 80-100 rounds.

The turret is not penetrating the hull, leaving the entire 10.7 cubic meter cabin space for carrying eight troops (a typical squad) and a crew of three, plus equipment. The cabin has four roof hatches and a rear ramp for access and disembarkation. ATOM will be able to travel on road at a speed of 100km/h and have an operational un refueled range of 750km,

The spacious cabin accommodates eight troops and three crew members. The overhead unmanned turret is mounting the 57mm cannon and up to 100 rounds of ammo. Four containers shown here will provide reloads for the gun. The vehicles amphibious propulsion propellers can be seen on both sides. Photo: Noam Eshel, Defense-Update

Uralvagonzavod-Renault new A t oM heavy IFV. Photo: Noam Eshel, Defense-Update

Franco-Russian ATOM Wheeled Combat Vehicle Debut at RAE-2013 - Defense Update - Military Technology & Defense News

 

[militarysta]

Polish wheeled IFV Rosomak (Wolverine)
video made by polish MoD

worth to see it

 

[militarysta]

Rosomak part.2

intesting factory photos