AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[Ghost hale]

Dude it's not in model is a different concern
But there are multiple confirmations that AMCA would have cutting edge sensors and why would they leave EOTS then

 

[SavageKing456]

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Previous iterations had IRST new one doesn't,what does it mean?

 

[SavageKing456]

btw is your source reliable enough.

Yes it is imo.
But if you're paranoid,fair enough.
Let's see what developments come out with

 

[fire starter]

Previous iterations had IRST new one doesn't,what does it mean?

Yup.

 

[SavageKing456]

Only a damn sure person can say that post it on DFI.
When I asked whether to post or not,he said do that.
An unsure person would never say that

 

[Ghost hale]

Previous iterations had IRST new one doesn't,what does it mean?

I m not questioning what all sensors will or will not be there. I m just merely stating we don't have any official placement and indication from DRDO in the model displayed. Quite sure they won't eliminate it specifically as it won't be secret feature and will be very much visible.

 

[SavageKing456]

I m not questioning what all sensors will or will not be there. I m just merely stating we don't have any official placement and indication from DRDO in the model displayed. Quite sure they won't eliminate it specifically as it won't be secret feature and will be very much visible.

Yes so far no confirmation unfortunately

 

[Ghost hale]

Yes so far confirmation unfortunately

Its wait and watch all along. Maybe 2023 Aero show or 2022 DefExpo.

 

[THESIS THORON]

Yup.
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THERE IS SOMETHING IN BELLY OF AMCA WHAT IS IT??

 

[SavageKing456]

In fact AMCA was supposed to have podded EOTS where is it?
It was in earlier iterations but most likely they switched to conformal EOTS but couldn't show it in new model due to unknown reason.

 

[Bleh]

Yup.
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That's a retractable IRST.. was never 24/7 exposed on the nose & this displyed in no model. Only this placard;

We didn't had that in any models displayed yet. @Bleh m I missing something here? EOTS integrated below nose cone is not displayed yet in AMCA models so far right?

Maybe you will in the Aero India 2023.. These chatter about DAS & EOTS sound pretty solid, definitely not something I'd dismiss as daydreams.

 

[Ajax01]

That's a retractable IRST.. was never 24/7 exposed on the nose & this displyed in no model. Only this placard;View attachment 89460


Maybe you will in the Aero India 2023.. These chatter about DAS & EOTS sound pretty solid, definitely not something I'd dismiss as daydreams.

DAS is pretty much confirmed. Its EOTS and IRST thats in question.

 

[fire starter]

That's a retractable IRST.. was never 24/7 exposed on the nose & this displyed in no model. Only this placard;View attachment 89460


Maybe you will in the Aero India 2023.. These chatter about DAS & EOTS sound pretty solid, definitely not something I'd dismiss as daydreams.

It is so confusing.
1. There is FADS in AMCA then why that antenna is protruding out.
2. What are those 2 diamond shaped apertures if they are DAS then what is the need of separate IRST.

3. What is the final design of amca the one shown in aero India or in presentation by drdo and Ada chief. If first one is true then what is that scoop and is it present on other models as well.

 

[fire starter]

DAS is pretty much confirmed. Its EOTS and IRST thats in question.

Dude DAS itself act as IRST .

 

[Ajax01]

Dude DAS itself act as IRST .

I don't think DAS has the same range as a dedicated Front Sector IRST but yeah its like a MAWS with image generation,tracking and generating weapon solution. Perse DAS wont have the same range as lets say Skyward G .

 

[Bleh]

It is so confusing.
1. There is FADS in AMCA then why that antenna is protruding out.
2. What are those 2 diamond shaped apertures if they are DAS then what is the need of separate IRST.

3. What is the final design of amca the one shown in aero India or in presentation by drdo and Ada chief. If first one is true then what is that scoop and is it present on other models as well.

That image is from 2018 Defexo. FADS & DAS were probably not confirmed back then & they had 2 IRST sensors instead... as only @THESIS THORON noted (I was expecting a lot of you to point that out).


Your q.3 has a long answer. Continued on next post,

 

[Bleh]

Your q.3 has a long answer. Continued on next post,

Some of you chaps seem to have a hard time differentiating the AMCA iterations, so I've drawn the difference upon a same platform, that yellow one i showed earlier. Same model as this here...

It was never shown in any public event & from the pic, I believe it was a wind-tunnel model, upon which further refinement was done as result of the findings.

1st one here is what was shown on Manorama & a model of this was in the AMCA interview by Tarmak007... This model is not up-to-date & long abandoned. This was the predecessor model of the one which I drew (<link). Note the shape of the vertical & horizontal stabilisers it had, the latter reached its engines & had deviated from edge-alignment (exactly like present KF-X tails do now!)

2nd one is this, that @fire starter said that final model (which it technically is, just final tinkering going on). This has tails extended, on which the horizontal stabilisers are attached, unlike the earlier...

3rd one here is the presently latest model, that was also displayed in AI21 as scale model. It has tails further extended & F35-like vertical stabiliser shape...

AMCA MK1

 

[flanker99]

THERE IS SOMETHING IN BELLY OF AMCA WHAT IS IT??

could be a luneberg lens

 

[Ghost hale]

Some of you chaps seem to have a hard time differentiating the AMCA iterations, so I've drawn the difference upon a same platform, that yellow one i showed earlier. Same model as this here... View attachment 89471
It was never shown in any public event & from the pic, I believe it was a wind-tunnel model, upon which further refinement was done as result of the findings.

1st one here is what was shown on Manorama & a model of this was in the AMCA interview by Tarmak007... This model is not up-to-date & long abandoned. This was the predecessor model of the one which I drew (<link). Note the shape of the vertical & horizontal stabilisers it had, the latter reached its engines & had deviated from edge-alignment (exactly like present KF-X tails do now!)
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2nd one is this, that @fire starter said that final model (which it technically is, just final tinkering going on). This has tails extended, on which the horizontal stabilisers are attached, unlike the earlier...
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3rd one here is the presently latest model, that was also displayed in AI21 as scale model. It has tails further extended & F35-like vertical stabiliser shape... View attachment 89470

Can u reconfirm on canopy? Bulge looks more prudent.

 

[Bleh]

Can u reconfirm on canopy? Bulge looks more prudent.

Yes, it absolutely is The bulge behind the canopy is significantly more prominent!.. Very much like the one in MWF (compared to LCA) so I think it is because of area-ruling.

Every shape & surface has gotten insanely more complex, but the fuselage-bulge is one of the most prominently noticable changes (introduced after 2017).