AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[Lonewolf]

What Bengali?

Hostile insurgent is either @Haldilal or @FalconSlayers

 

[FalconSlayers]

Hostile insurgent is either @Haldilal or @FalconSlayers

Nah its me

 

[FalconSlayers]

What Bengali?

I call myself a Bengali there as if I tell them that I am a Kashmiri Hindu who lives in Kashmir would make me troll fest, and they are already illiterate. So its better call yourself another ethnicity there. I chose Bengali.

 

[SARTHAK]

btw is there someone @FalconSlayers or anyone who can explain the phenomenon of sensor fusion and also "5th gen" sensor fusion vs 4.5gen sensor fusion as marketed by lockhead martin ,i posted a lm comparision pic on this sometime ago

 

[Lonewolf]

btw is there someone @FalconSlayers or anyone who can explain the phenomenon of sensor fusion and also "5th gen" sensor fusion vs 4.5gen sensor fusion as marketed by lockhead martin ,i posted a lm comparision pic on this sometime ago

Sensor fusion , data collected by various sensor shown in one screen to give a collective picture , 4.5 gen fusion , multiple computer for data generation and one central for fusion , 5 gen , a single supercomputer doing all the task

 

[SARTHAK]

Sensor fusion , data collected by various sensor shown in one screen to give a collective picture , 4.5 gen fusion , multiple computer for data generation and one central for fusion , 5 gen , a single supercomputer doing all the task

yeah this is difference in theory but in actual what is the difference ,i mean which one generates better tracks or is more accurate or time efficient

 

[Lonewolf]

yeah this is difference in theory but in actual what is the difference ,i mean which one generates better tracks or is more accurate or time efficient
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That depends on software , your hardware and all ,but let's say same hardware top notch.

Then in a scenario you have data from radar , DAS and eots all is given to a single computer , if it's software is good enough ( even f 35 have problem with it ) , then you will have a energy efficient system as time is saved for single step intead of multistage , but even if you use single hardware but you first generate info seperately and then combine it , you will be wasting , also in such a system if failure occur you will be blind , and if you have some sort of backup like you super computer have seperate division for different sensor then what's the use of this approach , computer in different compartment or same if following same process is just a marketing gimmick.

The 4.5 one with faster data transfer and more interconnected will be the best way ,it will be Midway between both as it will be faster and efficient and failure proof , like amca approach , they didn't go for that f 35 style but the this above one , with optical fiber data transmission and powerful data computers

 

[Shekhar Singh]

yeah this is difference in theory but in actual what is the difference ,i mean which one generates better tracks or is more accurate or time efficient

Take the example of Rafale. It has one of the best sensor fusion any 5th gen FA can have. For sensor fusion it's not necessary to be a 5th gen fighter. Read the link below..

The Rafale, the sheer power of data fusion

What makes the essential difference is the Rafale’s multi-sensor data fusion process.

www.dassault-aviation.com

 

[SARTHAK]

thanks!

 

[Ghost hale]

@SARTHAK

Take the example of Rafale. It has one of the best sensor fusion any 5th gen FA can have. For sensor fusion it's not necessary to be a 5th gen fighter. Read the link below..

The Rafale, the sheer power of data fusion

What makes the essential difference is the Rafale’s multi-sensor data fusion process.

www.dassault-aviation.com

4th Gen uses what is described here, a host of computed data from all the sensors and give holistic view. 5th Gen as informed by many get raw data from all sensors and a high powered super computer computes on data and give the scenario.
The main difference here is computed data vs raw data. The data shared in 4.5 Gen is processed by individual sensors. By simple logic of error probability the overall difference in data is sum of errors of all the individual computed data whereas in case of raw data processing the overall calculation and inferences are more accurate. 5th Gen also allows for true sensor fusion as the sensor data available from each sensor can be used by other too for its output. This give access to data more than the actual sensor could have obtained for better suggestions. It is becoming more and more software based as the actual accuracy depends on how well the algorithm is defined since all raw data is available for calculation of each aspect.
5th Gen if matured in algorithm which it will, any day surpass what 4.5 Gen can achieve. Network centric warfare is also touted as 5th gen tech for the same reason.
5th Gen is basically data availability from all venues to make more informed process.

 

[SARTHAK]

@SARTHAK

4th Gen uses what is described here, a host of computed data from all the sensors and give holistic view. 5th Gen as informed by many get raw data from all sensors and a high powered super computer computes on data and give the scenario.
The main difference here is computed data vs raw data. The data shared in 4.5 Gen is processed by individual sensors. By simple logic of error probability the overall difference in data is sum of errors of all the individual computed data whereas in case of raw data processing the overall calculation and inferences are more accurate. 5th Gen also allows for true sensor fusion as the sensor data available from each sensor can be used by other too for its output. This give access to data more than the actual sensor could have obtained for better suggestions. It is becoming more and more software based as the actual accuracy depends on how well the algorithm is defined since all raw data is available for calculation of each aspect.
5th Gen if matured in algorithm which it will, any day surpass what 4.5 Gen can achieve. Network centric warfare is also touted as 5th gen tech for the same reason.
5th Gen is basically data availability from all venues to make more informed process.

hmm better explained btw it is how lm describes it

https://www.f-16.net/forum/download/file.php?id=22766&t=1

 

[Deadtrap]

Yes, there I call myself a Bengali ...

I thought this Jahil PDF straight away blocked Indians.

 

[fire starter]

Unified Interconnect System for Next
Generation Fighter Aircraft.

AMCA high speed interface.

 

[Vinod DX9]

Do you think, FGFA would be a good option?

 

[FalconSlayers]

Do you think, FGFA would be a good option?

No

 

[Tactical Doge]

I thought this Jahil PDF straight away blocked Indians.

I'm there as Captain soap
My new id
Use it mostly to lurk rarely post anything

 

[Shekhar Singh]

I'm there as Captain soap
My new id
Use it mostly to lurk rarely post anything

They have kept pending my account approval for months.

 

[Shekhar Singh]

Do you think, FGFA would be a good option?

It very good 4.5++ gen FA but can't be a 5th gen due to its nonstealth characteristics.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Su-57 is good for psychological warfare only, if it would have been good, China would have been the first customer, even J-20 is more stealthier and advanced than the Su-57. Russia is dooming day by day unfortunately.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

Similar to T-14 Armata pltform, Russia is not confident on PAK-FA platform.
However, they desperately need a scapegoat who will induct these in large numbers, to recover the costs so that the Russian industry get the funds to develop the next analogous platforms.
That is where India comes in, from Russian perspective.