Akash Surface-to-air Missile

[Chinmoy]

http://www.newindianexpress.com/sta...ling-Efficiency/2016/04/14/article3379377.ece

Old news, but look what the idiot Journo wrote on the very first line..........

Two more rounds of medium range nuclear capable surface-to-air missile Akash

 

[Yumdoot]

@Chinmoy, today off course the tactical nuke can be carried by a Pinaka-2 or a Prahaar but then at the time this urban legend started it was a cogent argument and probably to show that Paki bellicosity in the light of their later day Nasr or Raad was not going to impress us beyond a point.

People have derided Akash for this comment. And while I cannot find the link, I think this claim was based on a DRDO official.

Most 15 kt weapons (implosion type but still strategic yield) are around 30 cm by 65 cm form factor. Akash has a 35 cm diameter and the much smaller tactical nuke (gun type) can be made to have the ideal form-factor for usage on an Akash. Since Akash apogee would by only 18 km and the average speed would be Mach 2, so the heat dissipation would not be much of a problem.

Regards the form factor equivalent Kub/buk warhead looks like this:

Placed like this:

 

[Chinmoy]

@Chinmoy, today off course the tactical nuke can be carried by a Pinaka-2 or a Prahaar but then at the time this urban legend started it was a cogent argument and probably to show that Paki bellicosity in the light of their later day Nasr or Raad was not going to impress us beyond a point.

People have derided Akash for this comment. And while I cannot find the link, I think this claim was based on a DRDO official.

Most 15 kt weapons (implosion type but still strategic yield) are around 30 cm by 65 cm form factor. Akash has a 35 cm diameter and the much smaller tactical nuke (gun type) can be made to have the ideal form-factor for usage on an Akash. Since Akash apogee would by only 18 km and the average speed would be Mach 2, so the heat dissipation would not be much of a problem.

Regards the form factor equivalent Kub/buk warhead looks like this:

Placed like this:

I got your point. But I don't think that any sensible person would write about a nuclear capable SAM. What do you need a nuclear capable SAM for. As per what you have written, Akash would not be a SAM for sure in this role.

 

[Kshatriya87]

I got your point. But I don't think that any sensible person would write about a nuclear capable SAM. What do you need a nuclear capable SAM for. As per what you have written, Akash would not be a SAM for sure in this role.

Think it would only work in World War 2 type situation wherein you have dozens upon dozens of aircrafts coming to bomb your cities / strategic bases. In such a situation, you can launch an Akash with a tactical nuke. Hit any plane in the middle of the formation and destroy / damage / render useless majority of other aircrafts as well.

 

[garg_bharat]

Nuclear Sam is not practical as it is a defensive weapon. Nobody wants a nuclear blast on own territory.

The most practical weapon is a nuclear torpedo which can perhaps sink several ships.

 

[SajeevJino]

Nuclear Sam is not practical as it is a defensive weapon. Nobody wants a nuclear blast on own territory.

+1 ..no one risk for suicidal EMP

The most practical weapon is a nuclear torpedo which can perhaps sink several ships.

one Torpedo one ship /

 

[Yumdoot]

I got your point. But I don't think that any sensible person would write about a nuclear capable SAM. What do you need a nuclear capable SAM for. As per what you have written, Akash would not be a SAM for sure in this role.

Leaving aside the obvious but harmless stupidity of the reporter in this case, an Akash primed for tactical nukes can be made to work without much changes (or even without any at all) to the basic Akash SAM. The command link will obviously work till the line of sight is available and that implies a point well after the apogee. In such a role obviously the pin point accuracy is not required. They already test Akash with electronically simulated targets which can basically be placed anywhere in the sky and the command guided missile will follow till that point.

Nahi kya?

 

[aditya g]

Nuclear Sam is not practical as it is a defensive weapon. Nobody wants a nuclear blast on own territory.

The most practical weapon is a nuclear torpedo which can perhaps sink several ships.

FYI both US and USSR had nuclear SAMs at a point during the cold war.

I am not saying it makes sense, just that they did exist. The idea being that you would rather destroy an ICBM high up in the atmosphere rather than letting it explode on land.

 

[charlie]

FYI both US and USSR had nuclear SAMs at a point during the cold war.

I am not saying it makes sense, just that they did exist. The idea being that you would rather destroy an ICBM high up in the atmosphere rather than letting it explode on land.

Ya they played with that idea but no one was going to use it. In US the missile name sprint, Sprint would generate a EMP which would make their own ICBM useless.

 

[garg_bharat]

FYI both US and USSR had nuclear SAMs at a point during the cold war.

I am not saying it makes sense, just that they did exist. The idea being that you would rather destroy an ICBM high up in the atmosphere rather than letting it explode on land.

Lot of foolish ideas existed in cold war. Good thing it is over.

You will get both EMP and radiation as a result of nuclear blast. The outcome cannot be good.

 

[ezsasa]

Akash Missile has potential to become India's 'mainstay'

NEW DELHI: The Akash missile has the "potential" to become the "mainstay" of India defence in its category and Israeli missiles were not chosen over it, parliament was told on Tuesday.

To whether the army has decided to go for Israeli quick-reaction surface-to-air missile (QR-SAM) after rejecting further induction of the Akash missile, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar told the Rajya Sabha, in a written reply, that the Akash missile system falls in the Short Range Surface to Air Missile ( SRSAM) category, which is separate from the OR-SAM.

He lso said that procurement of QRSAM is a separate multi-vendor case under the 'Buy Global' category and vendors from Israel are among the competing firms, but did not give any further details.

Media reports had said that the Army decided to go for Israeli QR-SAM to take on enemy fighters, helicopters and drones after it found that the Akash missile was not fast enough.

The minister also said that the Akash system was not considered by the Indian Navy as it is not suitable for shipborne use yet.

"The Akash System was not considered for induction by Indian Navy as its current version is not a stabilised system suitable for shipborne usage," Parrikar said.

"As the Akash system evolves through the process of continuous development, its current short-comings are bound to be addressed and the missile has the potential to become India's mainstay in the category of Short Range Surface to Air Missiles," he said.

The minister also said that the production of the missile needs to be ramped up to meet the demands of the air force and army.

"It is relevant to mention here that as soon as the Akash missile was successfully tested, the air force had dropped its plan to co-develop the missile through import of technology from France," he said.

The army signed a contract for procurement of two regiments of Akash in March, 2011.

http://www.defencenews.in/article/Akash-Missile-has-potential-to-become-Indias-mainstay-4996

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"It is relevant to mention here that as soon as the Akash missile was successfully tested, the air force had dropped its plan to co-develop the missile through import of technology from France," he said.

I am guessing this is the reason there were articles creating confusion among the masses for last three months regarding akash being rejected and stuff..

 

[ezsasa]

Akash Missile has potential to become India's 'mainstay'

NEW DELHI: The Akash missile has the "potential" to become the "mainstay" of India defence in its category and Israeli missiles were not chosen over it, parliament was told on Tuesday.

To whether the army has decided to go for Israeli quick-reaction surface-to-air missile (QR-SAM) after rejecting further induction of the Akash missile, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar told the Rajya Sabha, in a written reply, that the Akash missile system falls in the Short Range Surface to Air Missile ( SRSAM) category, which is separate from the OR-SAM.

He lso said that procurement of QRSAM is a separate multi-vendor case under the 'Buy Global' category and vendors from Israel are among the competing firms, but did not give any further details.

Media reports had said that the Army decided to go for Israeli QR-SAM to take on enemy fighters, helicopters and drones after it found that the Akash missile was not fast enough.

The minister also said that the Akash system was not considered by the Indian Navy as it is not suitable for shipborne use yet.

"The Akash System was not considered for induction by Indian Navy as its current version is not a stabilised system suitable for shipborne usage," Parrikar said.

"As the Akash system evolves through the process of continuous development, its current short-comings are bound to be addressed and the missile has the potential to become India's mainstay in the category of Short Range Surface to Air Missiles," he said.

The minister also said that the production of the missile needs to be ramped up to meet the demands of the air force and army.

"It is relevant to mention here that as soon as the Akash missile was successfully tested, the air force had dropped its plan to co-develop the missile through import of technology from France," he said.

The army signed a contract for procurement of two regiments of Akash in March, 2011.

http://www.defencenews.in/article/Akash-Missile-has-potential-to-become-Indias-mainstay-4996

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"It is relevant to mention here that as soon as the Akash missile was successfully tested, the air force had dropped its plan to co-develop the missile through import of technology from France," he said.

I am guessing this is the reason there were articles creating confusion among the masses for last three months regarding akash being rejected and stuff..

Similar article from business standard this time, note that the paragraph highlighted in the previous article regarding the dropping of co-development with french not mentioned in this one. This is how MSM plays us, MSM gets caught when they lie so simply they stop important info from reaching the public.


http://www.business-standard.com/ar...reign-made-qrsam-parrikar-116051001066_1.html

 

[Superdefender]

Interesting article. Spoiler alert - Not everyone will like it. Please read.

Link: http://m.firstpost.com/India/has-dr...er-parrikar-and-india-for-a-ride-2777768.html

 

[ezsasa]

Interesting article. Spoiler alert - Not everyone will like it. Please read.

Link: http://m.firstpost.com/India/has-dr...er-parrikar-and-india-for-a-ride-2777768.html

As per my last post above ^^^^, Parrikar seems to be clear with the difference between SRSAM and QRSAM. This is exactly this kind of news articles I was mentioning in my previous posts, creating confusion between QRSAM and SRSAM.

 

[Chinmoy]

Interesting article. Spoiler alert - Not everyone will like it. Please read.

Link: http://m.firstpost.com/India/has-dr...er-parrikar-and-india-for-a-ride-2777768.html

Is the writer seriously a Rtd. Lt. General?????

 

[Prashant12]

Akash NG to be ready in two years: BEL Chief

The next-generation Akash-NG missile will be ready for user trials in the next two years. Addressing the media during here on Wednesday, Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) Chairman and Managing Director S K Sharma said that the upgraded version will have a new radar and seeker. Akash NG to be ready in two years "We are working on it along with DRDO on this advanced version. It will have a better range (around 40 km). The IAF and Army have already inducted Akash Missile Systems (AMS) and they are satisfactory," Sharma said to a specific query from OneIndia. He also said that around 90 per cent of complete systems and components used in AMS are indigenous. Payloads for DRDO's UAV programmes To another query on BEL's foray into the Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) segment, Sharma said the Company is currently involved with three programmes. "We are certainly involved in one project of DRDO (Rustom) and another two projects. We are not making the UAVs, but would provide the payloads. Around seven to eight percent of our business in the current year will come from new products," Sharma added. Akash NG to be ready in two years Giving a glimpse of BEL's future outlook, Sharma said all efforts of the Company hovers around indigenisation keeping in mind the 'Make in India' initiative. Targets set on new areas in defence New radars, missile systems, communication and network-centric systems, tank electronics, gun upgrades, electro-optic systems and electronic warfare and avionics systems are topping BEL's agenda. 'Akash NG to be ready in two years' "We are focusing on capacity enhancement and creation of new test facilities for defence business, in addition to pursuing opportunities in solar energy, homeland security, smart cards and telecom," Sharma said.

Read more at: http://www.oneindia.com/india/akash-ng-be-ready-two-years-bel-chief-2122171.html

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Akash on Display Eurosatory 2016

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Premier delivers 1,000th Akash missile booster grain to Bharat Dynamics

File photo shows indigenously built surface-to-air missile Akash

Premier Explosives Ltd delivered the 1,000th Akash missile booster grain to Bharat Dynamics Ltd here on Saturday.

Booster grains manufactured by the Hyderabad-based Premier are being used as solid fuel for the Akash missile, which is a medium-range surface-to-air system that can target any aerial threat up to 30 km range and at altitudes up to 18,000 metres, according to a release.

Variant for Navy

Akash has been in operational service with the Army and the Air Force. A variant of the missile is under development for the Navy.

Bharat Dynamics has established a manufacturing base for guided weapon systems. It has been procuring booster grains from Premier Explosives for use in the manufacture of Akash missiles.

TV Chowdary, Deputy Managing Director, Premier Explosives, told BusinessLine the company has so far executed three rounds of orders and is in the process of executing the fourth one. The first delivery took place in 2012.

Premier Explosives is a manufacturer of high-energy materials for the defence and mining sectors.

It is the first private entity to develop and manufacture solid propellants for missiles.

 

[tharun]

Our akash is 720 kg and range is 25-30 add km with mach 3 speed But
Aster30 french SAM is 450kg but witha range of 100+ km with mach 4.5 speed..
Can't our drdo can find out what is used in their propulsion so we can use in our SAM's right?

 

[Chinmoy]

Our akash is 720 kg and range is 25-30 add km with mach 3 speed But
Aster30 french SAM is 450kg but witha range of 100+ km with mach 4.5 speed..
Can't our drdo can find out what is used in their propulsion so we can use in our SAM's right?

You have to look at the flight mechanism of both these missiles. Akash does make use of RAMJET engine which means it does consume much more fuel then Aster rocket engine. This in turn means more fuel for more distance means much more weight then Aster30.