Akash Surface-to-air Missile

[p2prada]

Blackbird Losses

A compilation on the loss history of the SR-71.

 

[trackwhack]

Blackbird Losses

A compilation on the loss history of the SR-71.

20 out of 50 planes crashed chief. thats 40%. either way, the plane cannot outrun modern SAM systems. Akash, well maybe, maybe not.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

20 out of 50 planes crashed chief. thats 40%. either way, the plane cannot outrun modern SAM systems. Akash, well maybe, maybe not.

SR-71 can outrun SA-6 and SA-3 or Akash at certain altitude with speed, But cannot be same with S-300 /400/ 500..

 

[bhramos]

The Hindu : Sci-Tech / Science : Akash missile's Air Force version successfully test-fired

what is difference between Airforce and Army versions...!!!!

 

[Payeng]

^^ One is a product of BEL while other is of BDL, the missile hardware should be the same except the launch platform.

 

[sayareakd]

The Hindu : Sci-Tech / Science : Akash missile's Air Force version successfully test-fired

what is difference between Airforce and Army versions...!!!!

AF version is on truck and army version on tank.

 

[p2prada]

20 out of 50 planes crashed chief. thats 40%. either way, the plane cannot outrun modern SAM systems. Akash, well maybe, maybe not.

Of course. I did not dispute that. But none were shot down though and that says a lot. Today it is obsolete. So it is not used.

Something better may replace it in the future.

 

[trackwhack]

Of course. I did not dispute that. But none were shot down though and that says a lot. Today it is obsolete. So it is not used.

Something better may replace it in the future.

I dont disagree with the how good the plane was. Only that the Akash shooting it down cannot be ruled out. You must remember that the Akash is a highly networked system. As the plane gets out of range of one missile, it comes within the range of another.

 

[sayareakd]

pakistan is testing cruise missile and we are testing sam, may be we will intercept those Pakistani cruise missiles.
DRDO is working on cruise missile detection and defence.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I dont disagree with the how good the plane was. Only that the Akash shooting it down cannot be ruled out. You must remember that the Akash is a highly networked system. As the plane gets out of range of one missile, it comes within the range of another.

It all depends on the altitude of the plane, even IGLA MANPADS can bring down an SR-71. A low
flying F-111 was shot down by serbs and reverseed engineered by Chinese into J20.

http://weapons.technology.youngester.com/2011/01/j-20-copy-of-f-111.html

 

[Armand2REP]

20 out of 50 planes crashed chief. thats 40%. either way, the plane cannot outrun modern SAM systems. Akash, well maybe, maybe not.

Akash wouldn't have a chance in hell of catching an SR-71 Blackbird. It operates at 80,000+ft and cruises at Mach 3. Akash ceiling is under 60k and Mach 2.5. Aster 30 would be lucky to catch one.

 

[trackwhack]

Akash wouldn't have a chance in hell of catching an SR-71 Blackbird. It operates at 80,000+ft and cruises at Mach 3. Akash ceiling is under 60k and Mach 2.5. Aster 30 would be lucky to catch one.

It does not operate at 80,000 feet, Its ceiling is 80K feet. And stop working with the assumption that its only a tail chase. 3000 Akash missiles have been deployed already. Do you think each of them is gonna be shot one at a time. If the Blackbird is within the Akash's range it may be able to evade one or two missiles, doubtful if it will evade more than a few.

Either way, the debate started with p2p saying it was impossible to shoot the blackbird down. That's not true.

 

[sayareakd]

years ago, USA thought that no one can catch U2, but they were proven wrong by Russian.

 

[Armand2REP]

It does not operate at 80,000 feet, Its ceiling is 80K feet. And stop working with the assumption that its only a tail chase. 3000 Akash missiles have been deployed already. Do you think each of them is gonna be shot one at a time. If the Blackbird is within the Akash's range it may be able to evade one or two missiles, doubtful if it will evade more than a few.

Its ceiling is 85K feet. It cruises at 80K. Akash doesn't even have the range to get that high, much less the range to intercept it. Even if it flew at 55K feet, Akash would have only one point and time to intercept it, like a 1:million shot.

Either way, the debate started with p2p saying it was impossible to shoot the blackbird down. That's not true.

It's rather impossible for Akash. Only the LR SAMs with high max ceilings have a real chance.

 

[trackwhack]

Its ceiling is 85K feet. It cruises at 80K. Akash doesn't even have the range to get that high, much less the range to intercept it. Even if it flew at 55K feet, Akash would have only one point and time to intercept it, like a 1:million shot.


It's rather impossible for Akash. Only the LR SAMs with high max ceilings have a real chance.

I am sure a lot of math went into that. ok.

you should not talk with such authority. you are only another internet patzer like the rest of us.

 

[p2prada]

I dont disagree with the how good the plane was. Only that the Akash shooting it down cannot be ruled out. You must remember that the Akash is a highly networked system. As the plane gets out of range of one missile, it comes within the range of another.

Akash engages targets moving at speeds of Mach 1.0 to Mach 1.5 in the supersonic regime.

A target moving at Mach 3 would mean the missile should move at speeds of Mach 5+. This does not even consider the capability of Rajendra which may not be adequate to process information from such a high speed target when it's max range is only 60Km. All this apart from what was mentioned by Armand.

Not happening with Akash. It is actually impossible with Akash.

A S-300/400, Aster 30 or PAC-3 will be lucky to even engage the Blackbird let alone bring it down.

 

[Armand2REP]

I am sure a lot of math went into that. ok.

you should not talk with such authority. you are only another internet patzer like the rest of us.

Not really, I know the basics of missile energy and trajectory. We know its operational parameters so it is easy to know the fact. Its intercept window is very small, especially considering the SR-71s speed, it is minuscule. A million to one is an expression of course. And p2prada made an excellent point, it probably doesn't even have the algorithms to make the intercept calculations.

 

[agentperry]

from where the hell SR-71 come into picture? is pakistan getting one or china developing its competitor?

 

[p2prada]

from where the hell SR-71 come into picture? is pakistan getting one or china developing its competitor?

The Akash block diagrams have SR-71s as targets. Check sayare's previous posts.

 

[sayareakd]

SR 71, is way to say that it can take out the best their is.