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This is very very worrying, If its true. I read somewhere else that close coupled canards aren't a new idea on lca though.
That is his understanding ,
Ada did lot of studies before arriving at the present solution, I even posted the paper on the said study .

The primary reason for including CCC was to tackle the problem of pitch up encounter during transonic flight.

Double delta aircrafts handles very well in supersonic regimes and including CCC ensures acceptable performance and AOA even in transonic regimes with certain inherent disadvantages like increased RCS which can be countered via RAP and RAS and the usual increase in complexities wrt to implementing CCC in any aircraft.

However it's best to keep all options at hand , so let's wait and see
 
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That is his understanding ,
Ada did lot of studies before arriving at the present solutions , I even posted the paper on the said study .

The primary reason for including CCC was to tackle the problem of pitch up encounter during transonic flight.

Double delta aircrafts handles very well in supersonic regimes and including CCC ensures acceptable performance and AOA even in transonic regimes with certain disadvantages like increased RCS which can be counted via RAP and RAS and the usual increase in complexities wrt to implementing CCC in any aircraft.

However it's best to keep all options at hand , so let's wait and see
Also the reason why all the Euro Canards are well Euro "CANARDS".

The Europeans know how competent Russian airframes are when it comes to WVR fights. They need to be able to execute high AOA attacks to have any chance in WVR against say a Su27 or a MiG 29. Forget the Su35S.
 

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Damn looks cool

Intakes gives off vibes of being serpentine

Wish had a picture of the rear and top view

And interesting weapons config and layout, like the dual missile on the central fuselage
Naval Mk-2 with same engine has compromised a lot on weapon load vis-i-vis MWF for better STOBAR performance. Still good enough considering risks.
 

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Next Manned Fighter Years Away, India’s Big Drone In 8 Months




The bloodletting over India’s next piloted fighter has become a show staple at Aero India, and this year wasn’t going to be any different. From the world’s largest aviation and defence manufacturers sparring on social media, to an underdog resurrecting its presence with an unusual media blitzkrieg, the big focus at Aero India 2019 was always expected to be India’s biggest and most ambitious defence procurement venture. But tucked away in a corner of the sprawling courtyard between the display halls, almost demurely out of plain sight, is an aircraft that is not only already built in India, but will be in the hands of the armed forces in less than eight months.



With 53 flights across six airframes at a sprawling 2,600 acre aviation test facility in Chitradurga test facility about 200 km from Bengaluru, India’s high performance Rustom-2 drone, designed to remain in the air for up to 24 hours, will be officially handed over to the Indian Air Force, Navy and Army this October for a crucial six month user trial phase that will stretch till March 2020.

Specifically developed for medium altitude lone endurance (MALE) flight, the Predator-sized drone is being developed in two specific variants — a standard surveillance model sporting an electro-optical payload with synthetic aperture radar for the Army and IAF requirement, and a naval variant that comes fitted with a maritime patrol radar. Livefist can confirm that air force and army drone pilots are already at Chitradurga getting a feel of the Rustom-2 before user trials kick in later this year.

The Indian armed forces currently operate the Israeli IAI Heron for long endurance drone duties both over land and sea, and has recently contracted for more, including an armed version. The Rustom-2 will mirror the Heron’s capabilities in many ways — while Indian sensor systems are under trial, the test airframes of the Rustom-2 all use Israeli electro-optical systems for the development phase. These will be progressively replaced with Indian systems when ready.



The Rustom-2 is currently capable of operations up to 300 km away from its control center with UHF and C-band links, and much longer away with SATCOM, still under test. Data links have proven — and will prove — to be the greatest challenge facing the Rustom-2 program in the journey to opening up its full stated potential. The user trials will involve rigorous testing of the drone’s long range autonomous flight over land and sea. Livefist can confirm that the drone has so far had flights with a maximum endurance of 16 hours, though this was only owing to test requirements — the 24 hours endurance parameter is a given.

The Rustom-2 comes up at a time when India has been cleared to procure 22 General Atomics MQ-9B SeaGuardian/SkyGuardian surveillance drones for the Indian Navy, with the Trump Administration also expected to clear India for a sale of Avenger armed drones. While pressure from the United States is high to complete a sale quickly, it isn’t likely to happen before next year.

The armed forces believe there is more than enough place for both ready, high performance drones from abroad, as well as the progressively improved, low-risk Rustom-2 that can be procured in large numbers and deployed across the country. The services believe that it is crucial for the country’s ‘drone dependence’ — as they put it — is decreased, especially since future capabilities of such platforms will necessarily need to stretch into signal intelligence and communication intelligence (SIGINT/COMINT) territory. In October a complex journey begins to stretching the Rustom-2 out — and it is this beginning that is sometimes frustratingly elusive in indigenous development.

“The Rustom-2 will come to us this October and we will embark on a capability discovery and user trial exercise that is crucial to our requirements. The requirement for long endurance surveillance is very high. While we have the P-8Is and Dorniers, the paradigm of maritime surveillance needs to shift in a significant way to unmanned systems given our enormous maritime area of responsibility,” an Indian Navy officer who will be part of the user trials told Livefist.

An Indian Air Force officer familiar with developments on the program said, “This is a long term program of high importance. The crucial aspect is that it is a low cost and low maintenance product with an impressive range of demonstrable features. We have been impressed with it so far and are looking forward to seeing what else it can do. I am quite certain it can be an armed platform later on. The game changer will be the SATCOM link that is proposed.”

The Rustom-2, as Livefist has reported earlier, is almost certain to spawn an armed version, though this is likely to be a far more complex exercise that will come later. Scientists say, however, that as the sensors and navigation-attack systems mature over the course of the next two years, a clearer picture will emerge on what kinds of offensive payloads will be possible on the Rustom-2. An extended range version of the HELINA (titled SANT) is one possibility, said a member of the team that Livefist spoke to at the show.

India’s secretive Ghatak flying wing stealth UCAV — detailed here on Livefist — is also under design and wind tunnel test by the DRDO, with new images emerging at the Aero India show (below). The Ghatak is yoked technologically to India’s AMCA stealth jet concept development effort at virtually every level, with progress likely to be linked with that program. Indications on timelines could be extracted from this detailed interview Livefist conducted with the director of the AMCA program yesterday
 

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Aero India 2019: India’s Nirbhay cruise missile to make final developmental flight in April
Rahul Udoshi, Bangalore - Jane's Defence Weekly
21 February 2019


Scale model of the ground-launched Nirbhay cruise missile as displayed at Aero India 2019. Source: IHS Markit/Rahul Udoshi

The Nirbhay cruise missile developed by India’s Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE) is set to make its final developmental trial in April, more than a year after the weapon successfully completed its previous flight test, an ADE official told Jane’s during the 20–24 February Aero India 2019 exhibition in Bangalore.

The official said that all issues related to the missile’s control hardware and software have been resolved, and that preparations are under way for a low-altitude flight test, which is expected to be its final developmental trial. The official declined to provide specific details on the rectified issues.

The 6 m-long, nuclear-capable, land-attack Nirbhay has a diameter of 0.52 m and is fitted with two tapering-chord fold-out (backwards) wings with a span of 2.7 m. The one-tonne missile is brought up to the takeover speed of its turbofan engine by a jettisonable solid propellant booster. The missile cruises at a speed of 270–305 m/s, and its maximum strike range is claimed to be 1,000 km.

The ADE official said that the missile programme is on track and expressed optimism that the weapon will soon be moving into the production-standard configuration, followed by the operational testing phase. He added that once the technology behind the missile is certified, there is a proposal to develop an air-launched variant of the Nirbhay within two to three years.

The intended air-launched variant would be developed to be fired from Su-30MKI multirole fighter aircraft, each of which would carry a maximum of two missiles.

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Also the reason why all the Euro Canards are well Euro "CANARDS".

The Europeans know how competent Russian airframes are when it comes to WVR fights. They need to be able to execute high AOA attacks to have any chance in WVR against say a Su27 or a MiG 29. Forget the Su35S.
Even with their canards, Rafale and syTyphoon will be hard pressed to beat a vanilla Fulcrum and Flanker.

Our MKI is a very potent dog fighter. Only a Su-35S,other Flanker H and Fulcrums can beat it.

EF Typhoon has a long arm couple canard for higher pitch rate. It's not a high alpha fighter. It can't keep up in a turn with a MKI. There's an article on Indradhanush 2016 in AF monthly where the RAF Grp Capt says unlike the Su-30MKI, the Typhoon isn't a high alpha fighter. It bleeds considerably in a turn but thanks to the EJ200, they regain energy pretty soon.

No one beats the Russian ladies in ITR, STR and in dogfights. A Russian jet in the hands of our pilots can do wonders
 

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Even with their canards, Rafale and syTyphoon will be hard pressed to beat a vanilla Fulcrum and Flanker.

Our MKI is a very potent dog fighter. Only a Su-35S,other Flanker H and Fulcrums can beat it.

EF Typhoon has a long arm couple canard for higher pitch rate. It's not a high alpha fighter. It can't keep up in a turn with a MKI. There's an article on Indradhanush 2016 in AF monthly where the RAF Grp Capt says unlike the Su-30MKI, the Typhoon isn't a high alpha fighter. It bleeds considerably in a turn but thanks to the EJ200, they regain energy pretty soon.

No one beats the Russian ladies in ITR, STR and in dogfights. A Russian jet in the hands of our pilots can do wonders
All Delta wing fighters suffer from rapid energy bleed off in a high g turn and lack of aerodynamic control at high alpha. Thats just a consequence of the design of the delta wing. The addition of canards came about solely to try to overcome some of these difficulties but of course doesn't solve it 100%. The next step in evolution would be thrust vectoring which has been tested on the EF but not taken up by anyone due to cost...for Rafale never considered as the AdlA never wanted it.

However in the modern dogfight, the importance of instantaneous turn is much diminished by the advent of HOBS missile and HMS combination (which was pioneered by the MiG-29 but has since been advanced considerably by the West and Israel even as the Russians have stood still with the R-73 yet to be updated or replaced)
 

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All Delta wing fighters suffer from rapid energy bleed off in a high g turn and lack of aerodynamic control at high alpha. Thats just a consequence of the design of the delta wing. The addition of canards came about solely to try to overcome some of these difficulties but of course doesn't solve it 100%. The next step in evolution would be thrust vectoring which has been tested on the EF but not taken up by anyone due to cost...for Rafale never considered as the AdlA never wanted it.

However in the modern dogfight, the importance of instantaneous turn is much diminished by the advent of HOBS missile and HMS combination (which was pioneered by the MiG-29 but has since been advanced considerably by the West and Israel even as the Russians have stood still with the R-73 yet to be updated or replaced)
Yep I know these. But when you close couple an all movinh foreplane with a pure delta wing,, some of the inherent disadvantages of the delta wing disappears
Take Gripen and Rafale for example.
 

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All Delta wing fighters suffer from rapid energy bleed off in a high g turn and lack of aerodynamic control at high alpha. Thats just a consequence of the design of the delta wing. The addition of canards came about solely to try to overcome some of these difficulties but of course doesn't solve it 100%. The next step in evolution would be thrust vectoring which has been tested on the EF but not taken up by anyone due to cost...for Rafale never considered as the AdlA never wanted it.

However in the modern dogfight, the importance of instantaneous turn is much diminished by the advent of HOBS missile and HMS combination (which was pioneered by the MiG-29 but has since been advanced considerably by the West and Israel even as the Russians have stood still with the R-73 yet to be updated or replaced)
Regarding the second part, am aware of these. The Russians aren't sitting still. There's R-73M and the K-74. Uses an IIR seeker. Then there's an all new wvraam. Izd 80.

Eurofighter consortium has experimented with strakes just ahead of the intakes on the fuselage. Improves STR.
 

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Aero India 2019: India’s Nirbhay cruise missile to make final developmental flight in April
Rahul Udoshi, Bangalore - Jane's Defence Weekly
21 February 2019


Scale model of the ground-launched Nirbhay cruise missile as displayed at Aero India 2019. Source: IHS Markit/Rahul Udoshi

The Nirbhay cruise missile developed by India’s Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE) is set to make its final developmental trial in April, more than a year after the weapon successfully completed its previous flight test, an ADE official told Jane’s during the 20–24 February Aero India 2019 exhibition in Bangalore.

The official said that all issues related to the missile’s control hardware and software have been resolved, and that preparations are under way for a low-altitude flight test, which is expected to be its final developmental trial. The official declined to provide specific details on the rectified issues.

The 6 m-long, nuclear-capable, land-attack Nirbhay has a diameter of 0.52 m and is fitted with two tapering-chord fold-out (backwards) wings with a span of 2.7 m. The one-tonne missile is brought up to the takeover speed of its turbofan engine by a jettisonable solid propellant booster. The missile cruises at a speed of 270–305 m/s, and its maximum strike range is claimed to be 1,000 km.

The ADE official said that the missile programme is on track and expressed optimism that the weapon will soon be moving into the production-standard configuration, followed by the operational testing phase. He added that once the technology behind the missile is certified, there is a proposal to develop an air-launched variant of the Nirbhay within two to three years.

The intended air-launched variant would be developed to be fired from Su-30MKI multirole fighter aircraft, each of which would carry a maximum of two missiles.

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Air launch version will not require booster like Brahmos from MKI.

This is a tight slap on anti Indigenous lobby who always propagated that Nirbhay program shall be scrapped. India is moving very fast in missile technology development area and some of the systems are next generation and some of them are among the best such as SFDR air to air missile. We shall have loads of our own missiles with the contemporary technologies. This will offer us a potential to export and play our strategic cards. e.g If we gibe mini Brahmos mounted Tejas Mk2 will SFDR A to A missile to Vietnam, China will piss off. If we give one Squadron to even Afghanistan, Porkis will piss in their pants.
 
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