ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Parthy]

When Elite govt. funded R&D bodies are filled with left-over engineers and quota sponsored non-performing/incompetent people who would never get a job in private sector on the basis of their intellect, then this is expected to be a permanent feature in govt. and other such bodies where GOI has a say. GOI should start privatizing these institutions and you will see the difference, unless Quota is introduced in private sector too, as proposed by this UPA govt.

Its all about responsibility and nation's interest mate!! Nobody in higher positions like Director/Project Leads/Techs of ADA/HAL/NAL carry Nations interest when they do something.. They are there to just to earn a life for their day-2-day life.. They never ever felt that they carry the back-bone of Nation's security....

The words which we speak here will not have any impact on them... :emot101:

 

[hitenray09]

Its all about responsibility and nation's interest mate!! Nobody in higher positions like Director/Project Leads/Techs of ADA/HAL/NAL carry Nations interest when they do something.. They are there to just to earn a life for their day-2-day life.. They never ever felt that they carry the back-bone of Nation's security....

The words which we speak here will not have any impact on them... :emot101:

i'm not supporting them but we all are off the field , a aircraft is a all in one a factory itself, every part of part has its issues attached to it. so the delay is guaranteed while going for these no. of parts, but putting all the blame on officials is not correct they do their bit of work at the end of day they lag behind with our day to day issues and iaf's overwhelming issues wth the craft before it takes skies.

 

[Parthy]

i'm not supporting them but we all are off the field , a aircraft is a all in one a factory itself, every part of part has its issues attached to it. so the delay is guaranteed while going for these no. of parts, but putting all the blame on officials is not correct they do their bit of work at the end of day they lag behind with our day to day issues and iaf's overwhelming issues wth the craft before it takes skies.

But decades have passed!! how long it will for an evolutionary defense sector ?? :emot0:

 

[chex3009]

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=169289&d=1234050187

Interesting piece....! Can anyone comment on this one, folks.....???

 

[nitesh]

There was an article in aviation week (1994 or 1995) when China shown interest in LCA, but don't remember the details now. Will try to dig the information

 

[nitesh]

http://tarmak007.blogspot.com/2010/11/breaking-on-tarmak007-tejas-lsp-5-to.html

Tejas LSP-5 is ready for its maiden flight. In all probability it would be between 10 am and 11.30 am today. Commander Ankur Jain will be at the controls and the flight is expected to be for 20-25 minutes, as per the initial reports. As this piece goes live, I am being told in Hyderabad that the pilot is ready for the P-BIT test (engine run).
The flight is for sure today, if there are no sudden showers and last-minute glitches. Stay tuned.

 

[Rahul Singh]

Tejas induction may overshoot deadline​

Indian Air Force was slated to fly the fighter aircraft by March 2011

What special information this article provides which gives even slightest of hint regarding the issue quoted in header?.............This is a typical space filling article on LCA which attracts reader with catchy header and writes all copy pasted stuff inside. Absolutely BS, or else author should have quoted anybody. These types of article writers should give themselves a break.

FOC is pushed to next year end..but it was earlier scheduled for march 2011.

FOC was always expected to come at least two years after IOC for obvious reasons because it involves work like full integration of weapon package, sensors and their field testing plus supply of full support kit plus entire spectrum of training to operators. So, FOC was never stated for march 2011 rather it was targeted for later half of 2012 counting dec 2010 as target for IOC.

I am just curious about the Fly by Wire control system. For many years they said the digital quadruplex system was getting indigenous developed now i hear it is imported? Any one hear about it?

Hmmmmmmm! Where did you read this information? BTW even today everybody knows(and they very well know they know the right stuff) that DFCC for LCA was developed in Bharat and control laws were written by ADA. Later it was tested and validated on Iron-Bird test rig of HAL when US sanctions had stopped ADA from testing it on F-16 control laws testing rig in USA.

When Elite govt. funded R&D bodies are filled with left-over engineers and quota sponsored non-performing/incompetent people who would never get a job in private sector on the basis of their intellect, then this is expected to be a permanent feature in govt. and other such bodies where GOI has a say. GOI should start privatizing these institutions and you will see the difference, unless Quota is introduced in private sector too, as proposed by this UPA govt.

Privet sector has some very very critical demerits and you and me know very well what are they? BTW DRDO and other DPSUs are not filled with leftover technocrats. If your assumption had been true these organisations would never have got elites like IITian M Natarajan,K. Kasturirangan, G. Madhavan Nair , V K Saraswat etc. Not to mention many like these are in making. Quality manpower is not only problem Research and Development sector faces there are many things which affects negatively.

 

[nitesh]

The LCA CLAW was getting tested in USA and was tested on F 16 XL also. After the 1998 tests our scientiests were not even allowed to take back the test data. After that facility was built in India and this added to good 2 years delay in the progress. (Source Book: The tejas story)

 

[smartindian]

Hyderabad: Tejas LSP-5 finally had its maiden flight at Old Bangalore Airport today. It took off at 10:55 am and landed safely at 11.35 am. It went up to 8 km at a max speed of .8 Mach and pulled up to 4 G. IRC and full after-burner were used. "We have done all test points. It flew for 40 minutes. It's a great day for us," Tejas Program chief P.S. Subramanayam tells Tarmak007 from Bangalore.
DRDO chief Dr V.K. Saraswat told Tarmak007 said during the Aerospace Conclave in Hyderabad that, the scientists and engineers couldn't have asked for more. "I am being told that the LSP-5 was a dream flight," Dr Saraswat said.
LSP-5 was piloted by Lt Cdr Ankur Jain of LCA Navy Team at NFTC and the chase aircraft was a PV-3 piloted by Gp Capt Thomas.
Stay tuned for more.
http://tarmak007.blogspot.com/search/label/LSP-5 Maiden Flight

 

[nitesh]

so finally it arrives kudos to the LCA team

 

[pankaj nema]

I am very very very happy .LSP 5 was expected in August end SO a full 3 month delay
Thank GOD Well done DRDO

Lets hope and pray that LCA will soon prove itself completely and start serving the country

 

[chex3009]

Anyone got any video of LSP-5 flying...? Plz, if someone can post....

 

[hitenray09]

But decades have passed!! how long it will for an evolutionary defense sector ?? :emot0:

we waited for decades so lets wait for a couple of yrs more. better late than never

 

[sayareakd]

 

[plugwater]

The official DRDO Press Release

Tejas, India's Light Combat Aircraft, in its march towards operational status, achieved an important milestone today when the fifth Limited Series Production (LSP-5) aircraft made historic first flight. LSP5 aircraft is the first LCA in the Operational Configuration for the Indian Air Force.
The LSP-5 was piloted by test pilot Lt Cdr Ankur Jain, from the Indian Navy. The aircraft took off at 1054 hours and achieved a max speed of 0.8 mach, 4G turns, and an altitude of 11 km during the 40 min flight.
The flight was uneventful and all systems functioned normally, clearing all the test points.
This is the culmination of the efforts of all the stakeholders viz., HAL, IAF, DRDO Labs, Defence PSUs, CEMILAC, DGAQA and Aeronautical Development Agency. This has been a great team effort to get the final standard aircraft in the flight line.
The LSP-5 first flight was directed by Wg Cdr Sreedharan Toffeen, Test Director. Gp Capt G Thomas, Chief Test Pilot of the National Flight Test Centre (NFTC) piloted the chase aircraft.
This is another proud moment for 'Team Tejas' taking the endeavour close the Initial Operational Capabilities.

http://tarmak007.blogspot.com/

 

[A chauhan]

I am eager to know how our indigenously developed Auto-pilot mode worked. They were going to test auto-pilot mode for the first time through Tejas LSP-5 .

 

[Rahul Singh]

Hyderabad: Tejas LSP-5 finally had its maiden flight at Old Bangalore Airport today. It took off at 10:55 am and landed safely at 11.35 am. It went up to 8 km at a max speed of .8 Mach and pulled up to 4 G. IRC and full after-burner were used. "We have done all test points. It flew for 40 minutes.

If i take 40 minutes as average endurance per test flight ( note PVs and LSPs are regularly flown with drop tanks and they normally records plus 100 minute sorties) then 1452 x 40 = 58080 minutes = 968 hours.

Now reason behind this calculation is my experience with some posters( necessarily not on DFI) who criticises HF-XX Tejas by posting stuffs like "during test flight HF-XX Tejas do only 30 minutes sortie hence targeted 1000 hours for IOC can be achieved only when number of test flights counts 2000 and since average number of test flights per year is only 200 don't dream about seeing LCA getting IOC anytime before 2012-13..................". I think these critics shall now get to know that HF-XX Tejas will get IOC not only by IAF standards -- which calls for proving test points irrespective of Tejas clocking 1000 hours -- but even by popular standard which requires a new design(combat) to clock at least 1000 hours before getting IOC.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

They have till date not done any High Angle of Attack and high risk maneuvers! They have not stretched the flight envelop to study its capabilities and we already have the first production variant! How do we induct it with out being tested completely.

 

[Rahul Singh]

They have till date not done any High Angle of Attack and high risk maneuvers! They have not stretched the flight envelop to study its capabilities and we already have the first production variant! How do we induct it with out being tested completely.

How you know LCA has not done high angle of attack maneuvers ? As far as i know HF-XX Tejas pulls 22*alpha regularly and this information was given to me bt one naval engineer directly associated with LCA project. And this information is almost 10 months old, so one can naturally assume that LCA is pulling higher alpha than 22* presently.

HF-XX Tejas has already been flown to its ceiling, plus already been flown at sea level, plus already been flown to LEH and tested there, plus already been tested for cross wind landing at Jaisalmer, plus already been flown in night, plus already achieved 6g sustained turn of rate...............etc. Now tell me what 'high risk maneuvers' it has skipped. While answering do consider that this jet is still to acquire IOC?

 

[Godless-Kafir]

How you know LCA has not done high angle of attack maneuvers ? As far as i know HF-XX Tejas pulls 22*alpha regularly and this information was given to me bt one naval engineer directly associated with LCA project. And this information is almost 10 months old, so one can naturally assume that LCA is pulling higher alpha than 22* presently.

HF-XX Tejas has already been flown to its ceiling, plus already been flown at sea level, plus already been flown to LEH and tested there, plus already been tested for cross wind landing at Jaisalmer, plus already been flown in night, plus already achieved 6g sustained turn of rate...............etc. Now tell me what 'high risk maneuvers' it has skipped. While answering do consider that this jet is still to acquire IOC?

Last i heard they where going to buy an instant re-start pack from the US for testing on High AoA. There was an issue with the intake being designed badly that it causes flame out at High AoAs. The 22*alpha is considered very minimal by today's standards where Aircrafts go up to 45* or more.