ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

Which role suits LCA 'Tejas' more than others from following options?

  • Interceptor-Defend Skies from Intruders.

    Votes: 342 51.3%
  • Airsuperiority-Complete control of the skies.

    Votes: 17 2.5%
  • Strike-Attack deep into enemy zone.

    Votes: 24 3.6%
  • Multirole-Perform multiple roles.

    Votes: 284 42.6%

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many thanks to your good-self and Mr Kunal for good info Sirs, - as a non-expert i would merely ask if the members of this forum are satisfied with the time-frame as quoted above - not that anythng mush can be done about it but is it in keeping with most international standards .

the reason i am asking is that it seems to me (again being aware im not an expert ) that we took our own sweet time to rectify the "flying coffin" Mig 21 syndrome and when we do have a good replacement we take our time abaaout getting it verified and into service - not that im asking for any of the commissioning processes to be lessened in thier rigour, but we seem to be in no hurry to replace the Mig21 which WAS great, but is a 1970's era machine - and this being 2013 we are in no hurry ?
No. LCA is considered a failure within the aviation community. DRDO is just trying to salvage what's left of the program. Early estimates were more than 500 jets for IAF alone. Even with IN included, we may not induct more than 180, with 123 going for IAF.

The Mig-21s were supposed to have been phased out starting from early 2000. But with LCA delays, some of the Mig-21s were upgraded to Bison standards, a program which was a direct result of delays in LCA. We lost 400 good pilots waiting for LCA.

We are desperate to replace Mig-21s. All the negative news about squadron shortfall is a direct result of the failure of LCA and the end of Mig-21s life. As of today we have ~270 Mig-21s, out of which ~120 are Bisons. The rest are grounded or flying very occasionally, meaning they can be used in case a war happens.

MKI directly replaced Mig-21s in almost all squadrons they are in. The follow on options for 80 MKIs, up and over the 190 contracted for, were meant to curtail squadron shortfall.

As of today, IAF has a firm order for 40 LCA Mk1s, and a promise to buy 83 Mk2s. IN has firm orders for 6 Mk1s, with a promise to buy at least 45 Mk2s.
 

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many thanks to your good-self and Mr Kunal for good info Sirs, - as a non-expert i would merely ask if the members of this forum are satisfied with the time-frame as quoted above - not that anythng mush can be done about it but is it in keeping with most international standards .

the reason i am asking is that it seems to me (again being aware im not an expert ) that we took our own sweet time to rectify the "flying coffin" Mig 21 syndrome and when we do have a good replacement we take our time abaaout getting it verified and into service - not that im asking for any of the commissioning processes to be lessened in thier rigour, but we seem to be in no hurry to replace the Mig21 which WAS great, but is a 1970's era machine - and this being 2013 we are in no hurry ?
it is stupid to say LSP-8 was the only fighter to achieve the IOC spec.Anyone who knows something about aviation will laugh his ass off.
the correct version is all design minor design modifications generated from 2000 flight tests were implemented on LSp-8 first , since it is an aircraft under production. Now what will happen is one by one all other LSPs will be modified with the same modifications bringing them up to the same level of LSP-8 design and will go on to complete FOC.

Also LSP-6 is reserved for spin testing to check the departure spec of the fighter.It is not GOD almighty to reach the stricter IOC norms all by itself. Spin test are often carried out in between IOC and FOC to test and validate the high AOA specs in all fighter programs.ADA is taking consultancy abroad on how to proceed on this as it has no experience of it's own here in this test regime.What is on LSP-6 is on all other LSPs right now. So nothing is needed for other LSps to reach the magical stricter IOC level.

Simply state spin tests on LSP-6 will validate the behavior of all other LSPs in high AOA regime. Thats all. Same as the cornering ability of Ferrari I meant in above the post.

Same 80s era Mirage-2000 will be good enough to continue for next 25 years after upgrades till 2035 according to IAf, but will they say the sme about MIG-21? no. The reason is the problems of MIG-21's engines and air frame were due to their design process.

From FSED -1 phase grippen, Eurofighter TYPHOON and RAFALE all entered service only after around 17 or 18 years and are still being upgraded in phases in newer versions.

But tejas ASR for tejas mk-1 was upgraded in 2004 itself. Resulting in FSED-2 which was not done on other fighters mentioned above.It is akin to jumping directly to F-16 blk 52 without operationalizing F-16 A/B.

So if the LCA program took 5 or 6 years extra , it compares quite well to other international program.
TYPHOON is yet to complete it's ground bombing role , which tejas did before IOC, SO why the howling cries for tejas's head?
And tejas mk-2 will have the same spec ASEA radar of RAFLE with the same 120 km range METEOR missile firing interfaces according to ADA chief , so what is the fuss all about. Now for all practical purpose tejas mk-2 can have the same tracking ability of RAFALE and same 120 km METEOR BVR missile as primary weapon.


It is a bloody fool argument to say LCA was intended to replace MIG-21 in 2000. When funds for just two TDs were released (meaning metal cut) only in 1993 how can one expect it to be inducted in 2000 . Especially weapon specs for Tejas was revised in 2004 by IAF resulting in FSED-2 . the how will it be inducted in 2000?

If tejas was inducted in 2000 with just a monkey upgraded version of MIG-21 as many in IAf wished(read the link to TKS tales). it would have been obsolete right now just a decade after induction and will be worse off than the JF-17.But DA perferred a Fully relaxed static stability all digital FBW , with all glass cockpit and composite tech with least RCS , means now it is going to be inducted as one of the premier 4.5 th gen fighters in the world.

The MIG-21 BISON upgrade was sanctioned in 1994. Only in 1993 2000 crores were released for the two tejas TDs.So did IAf expect the LCA to be inducted just within a year of funding. What a joke.

So it is a white lie to say the MIG-21 bisons were upgraded only because of the tejas delay.

it does not matter how many fighters IAF buys. It has a good export market to make up for numbers
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The original 1983 ASR of Tejas was;
1. for a top speed of mach 1.5 and
2.STR of 17 deg.
3. with only lesser range lesser weight missiles.

All exceeded within the 70 percent operational capability of Tejas mk-1 with in IOC itself.

if the design itself is not robust, then how can mk-2 ,
carry 5 tons weapon load ,
with mach 2 topspeeds , higher service altitude,
and 120 km range Meter missile along with a radar same tracking and detection range as RAFALE?

Considering there is no guarantee of RAFALE deal fructifying it is far too early to crystal gaze into Tejas mk-2 nunbers.
And if IAF has to reach the required sanctioned sqdn strength of 42 other than huge numbers of LCA mk-2,there is no other go.
 
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if the SU-30 MKI replaced all the MIG-21s they must all have been grounded. has it happened?
Then saying so is patently false.Truth is IAF is woefully short of it's sanctioned squadron strength of 45. And filling it ranks with imported fighters that offer no big advantage over tejas considering costs is just not going to happen .

So large numbers of Tejas mk-2 is the only available option for IAF , if it has to have any realistic hope of facing the 22 squadrons to be thrown at it by the chinese PLAF.

Without numbers trying to win a war with a handful of foreign fighter is a stupid option.
 

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F-15 till date is non FBW conventional design with Hydromechanical controls. And F-15 has the highest number of A2A kills in modern times.
Hunter maybe an old ac but I have also flown Sea Harrier and FYI, B737-8/9 and A-320 are still top of the line commercial ac and I have tons of exp on them also.
regarding, electrical controls, The Power-by-wire and use of EHSA started only with F-22 & F-35. The so called future will return to Hydro mechanical system as it has been found that the kind of weight savings promised by these electrical systems has actually not delivered and they are prone to failures and over heating.
Regarding your famous, outstanding, only real fighter, best of the best F-16XL, you have failed to answer as to why no ac has ever been built with the similar wingform. The development of EFT & Rafale started when F-16XL had already flown but even they did not use the so called revolutionary CRANKED DELTA design.
F-15 is old history, It's STR and ITR are abysmally low compared to even Tejas , Grippen,TYPHOON, RAFALE.

All the glorified kills of F-15 were achieved against very small rudimentary airforce's of third worl dictator with next to nothing EW capability decades back against older MIG-29 s of soviet block with long range BVR kills , when the Mig-29s were not even aware of them being fired on.

So these fancy kill ratios have no relevance in RSS tail less delta discussions.

Well for your information CANARDS are not the new world beating discovery of the european delta canard makers, It was present from the days of WRIGHT BROTHERS first flight as a pitch control device , unaffected by the wing wash like tail planes.

If you look at the size of the control surfaces attached to grippen's wing and the size of the same in tejas , it is quite clear than bigger more powerful control surfaces of Tejas compensates for the canard pitch control action.

That was proved by ADA in a wind tunnel test for the tejas aerodynamic layout which proved for the weight and drag , power penalty imposed by canards it gave no significant advantage in performance for the specific aerodynamic layout of Tejas.Simply put the larger wing of TEJAS with cranked delta produces the same vortex effect of CANARDS leading to beneficial lift to drag ratio as proved in F-16 XL and the larger wing attached control surfaces gave enough maneuverability for the tejas design in particular.


You may ask then why this could not be found out by SAAb?

The answer is SAAB went with canrds based on their design skills in Viggen. And sorted out the problems with canards.


And ADA went with what was proved by F-16 XL with bigger cranked delta wing- no canard layout , and bigger control surfaces attached to wings.

In the recently concluded airshow even within the 6G restrictions tejas mk-1 LSP-7 completed a vertical loop in 20 seconds.Which translates to 18 deg STR same as that of more powerfull twin engined f-15 and comparable to delta -canard grippen's 20 DEg with fully relaxed flight envelope with much higher AOA of around 28 Degand 9G limits.

So the difference between the Tejas mk-1 and Grippen C/D is not very much .Considering tejas mk-1 achieved 18 deg STR with far lower AOA limitations of 22 deg and restricted 6Gs.Meanwhile the much powerful F-15 has an STR of just 15 to 18 deg, which is at about 70 percent of the Tejas mk-1 and grippen capability.


It is obvious that once 300 KG telemetry equipment in Tejas mk-1-LSP-7 is removed and it's Gs are relaxed to 8G , it can easily come close to the grippen's loop time of around 18 seconds i.e ( an STR of 20 Deg per second)even without canards.It can
be achieved once spin test are over and AOA is relaxed to 24-- 26 deg and Gs relaxed to 8 from the present 6 in FOC.

If you want a comparison of tejas with grippen NG then you have to wait for tejas MK-2.


F-15 had more powerful radars and longer range bigger air to air missiles and more power to avionics due to twin engines which were the preconditions for the ASR issued for it.SO the selection of F-15 has nothing to do with the efficiency of F-16 XL's cranked delta wing form as it had a single engine, lesser range , and less power for avionics,
 
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@ersakthivel any idea when the LSP-8 will be handed over to the airforce for evaluation. IS this milestone considered to be achieving IOC-2 specs? Does make me wonder why the delay when we have the LSP- 8 up in the air for a month or so now...
 
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@ersakthivel any idea when the LSP-8 will be handed over to the airforce for evaluation. IS this milestone considered to be achieving IOC-2 specs? Does make me wonder why the delay when we have the LSP- 8 up in the air for a month or so now...
The modifications done to LSP-8 are all implementable on some other LSPs as well, SO all the LSPs together are going to achieve the specs for IOC -2.
 
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P.S. SUBRAMANYAM, Director, Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), Bangalore, stands next to a big model of India's own Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas, fondly runs his fingers over the edges of its wide wings, and says with a glimmer in his eyes: "This is the lightest combat aircraft in the world. Its pilots have told me that when they land, it is like landing on butter! The landing is so smooth. It is because the wings occupy the largest area of the aircraft's surface area. It has no tail! This is something special about this aircraft."

After a 20-year struggle, the indigenously built Tejas is going places. The attitude of the press to the LCA project has changed in the past two years after journalists realised that several hundreds of flights of Tejas were incident-free, that India has developed many of its systems and components on its own, and that the project was marching towards fruition, said K. Jayaprakash Rao, Regional Public Relations Officer, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), Bangalore. The Initial Operations Clearance (IOC) it received on January 10 meant that its production could begin at Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), Bangalore. "So far we have spent 6,000 crore on the project, which has resulted in 14 aircraft, out of which 11 are flying. The rest are ready to fly," said Subramanyam, who is also Programme Director (Combat Aircraft).

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has placed orders for 40 of them. Assembly lines have been built at HAL to roll out eight aircraft a year. The production capacity will be doubled to meet the requirement of 200 aircraft in the next decade. The IAF has suggested the development of a derivative, called Tejas Mark II, with a higher thrust engine and other improvements. The ADA is working on it and hopes to have a test flight in December 2014 and begin production in mid-2016.

The naval version of Tejas is ready and the first flight will take place in two months. A two-seater trainer version flew in November 2010 and one more will fly in the second half of 2011. The development of the Tejas trainer for both the Army and the Air Force will be completed in another 18 months, after which it will go into production. Tejas is powered by the GE-F404-IN20 engine from the United States.

The single-engine, single-seater, fourth generation aircraft is the smallest and lightest multi-role supersonic fighter in its class. The Delta wing aircraft (wingspan 8.2 metres, length 13.2 m, and height 4.4 m) will carry a variety of missiles and laser-guided bombs. Tejas is already integrated with the R-73 missile and is soon to be integrated with two Israeli missiles, Python-5, a close combat missile, and Derby, which can home in on targets more than 50 km away. The indigenous content of Tejas, which stands at 60 per cent now, will reach 70 per cent in its Mark II variant.

In the face of technology denial regimes and embargoes, the development of the aircraft epitomises the collaborative efforts of several institutions, among them the ADA, its principal partner HAL, and the Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE).

P.S. Krishnan, Director, ADE, said, "We have developed the most crucial technologies for Tejas. We have built a simulator for it, which is a world-class facility. We built the simulator for Arjun, the main battle tank. Simulators are a big area for us. We developed the digital fly-by-wire flight control systems for the LCA, which is a crucial technology."

"It is a state-of-the-art simulator. It can help the pilot fly his aircraft in any mode he wants," explained V.S. Chandra Shekar, Group Director, ADE. B.P. Sashidhara, Scientist, Flight Simulation Division, added, "Whatever manoeuvres we can do in real aircraft, we can do in the simulator. We can pitch, roll and yaw." V. Kala, Project Director for Tejas' flight control systems (FCS), S. Gurudev, Group Director, and Krishnan, who worked jointly on the FCS, were proud that the ADE was chosen to make it.

The fighter aircraft's performance has been flawless – in more than 1,550 flights, as on February 17, there have been no incidents at all, not to talk of accidents. Tejas has been flown successfully in extreme conditions – in Nagpur during peak summer at a searing 48° Celsius and in the rarefied heights of Leh at −28° C. The LCA is marching towards Final Operations Clearance in 2012.

Air Commodore Rohit Verma, Project Director, National Flight Test Centre, Bangalore, who has flown Tejas 55 times, said, "The aircraft handles very well. Young pilots have flown it. They find it safe. It has good sensors, radars, a helmet-mounted sight and an inertial navigation unit."

On the basis of a project definition document that was formulated in 1990, the ADA, in a report to the Ministry of Defence, said it would take seven years and 4,000 crore to develop the LCA. It was conceived as an ambitious attempt to bridge huge technological gaps in multiple disciplines, including fighter aircraft design. The programme began in 1993 when the Government of India decided to support the technology development for the aircraft, which was completed in March 2004. The first Technology Demonstrator for flight took place earlier, in January 2001.

"The biggest challenge when we took up the programme in 1993 was to catch up with the rest of the world in fourth generation fighter aircraft technologies. The greatest achievement of this phase is that India mastered them," said Subramanyam. The fourth generation technologies are fly-by-wire flight control systems; unstable aerodynamics; glass cockpit incorporating the latest all-digital avionics systems; advanced composite materials for the airframe; and computer-based control of all electromechanical systems.

When India began the Tejas programme, the rest of the world argued that India would not be able to do it because it faced a gap of 30 years in developing these fourth generation technologies. Subramanyam said, "I should put on record here that it was the decision of persons such as [former President] A.P.J. Abdul Kalam and Kota Harinarayana that we should attempt these technologies. They said we should be confident that our youngsters would be able to achieve these technologies. "

Kota Harinarayana, former ADA Director, is the chief architect of the Tejas project. In honour of his contribution to the project, the letters "KH" were inscribed on the aircraft that made the first flight in January 2001.

The programme faced a setback in the form of U.S. sanctions in the wake of India testing five nuclear devices at Pokhran, Rajasthan, in May 1998. Again, the motivation provided by Kalam and Harinarayana helped the LCA team develop he fourth generation technologies without U.S. support.

"The five years of sanctions from 1998 to 2003 made us self-reliant and gave us the confidence that we could do things on our own," said Subramanyam. On the basis of the success of the first flight, the Government of India gave the go-ahead for a prototype vehicle and for the limited series production of Tejas. In 2006, the IAF, which funded the project, placed orders for a squadron of 20 aircraft, and in 2011, a few days before Tejas received its IOC, the IAF placed orders for another 20 aircraft.

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THE LCA MISSION simulator.
In 2003, the Navy stepped in with funds for the development of a naval variant. The first prototype of the naval variant is in the final stage of development and will fly in the first half of 2011. The Navy has said it will require the Mark II variant as well and will fund the programme.

A team of test pilots from the IAF and the Navy gave suggestions on how to improve the aircraft's flying qualities. "The pilots were able to tell the designers how the aircraft should behave. So whatever deficiencies they had seen in other aircraft, we were able to overcome in Tejas," said Subramanyam.

"When the naval prototype completes its [aircraft] carrier compatibility trails by 2014, it will be a great achievement," he said. For India will be only the second country, after Russia, to have a fighter aircraft that can ski-jump from an aircraft carrier and land on the carrier." The ski jump involves a short runway on the aircraft carrier for take-off and landing with the help of an arrester. The U.S.' fighter aircraft use the catapult method to take off and land on carriers.

A spin-off from the programme is that it has nurtured many private industries to take the various fourth generation fighter aircraft technologies to new levels of design, development, testing and fabrication.

Meanwhile, the Kaveri engine for fighter aircraft being developed by the Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE), a DRDO laboratory in Bangalore, crossed a milestone on November 3, 2010, when an IL-76 aircraft flew with it for an hour at an altitude of 6,000 m at a speed of 0.6 Mach (0.6 times the speed of sound). This trial took place at the Gromov Flight Research Institute (GFRI), Moscow, Russia. DRDO officials said the engine control, performance and health were excellent during the flight. The IL-76 was modified for this flight-trial, with the Kaveri engine replacing one of the four engines of the IL-76. A team of 20 GTRE scientists worked with the GFRI for these trials.
 

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When a sword arm is worth it | Business Standard

Date lines of costs and project sanction are detailed here.
BANGALORE: India's Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas is nothing short of a perfect light fighter, if we were to go by the words from the horse's mouth. Captain G Thomas of the National Flight Testing Centre, who tested the LCA, gave TNIE firsthand information about how efficient, agile and manoeuvrable is India's pride.
"It's just as impressive as the big twinengine guys (craft)," he said adding that it responded very well during flight trials. "Tejas has a restricted envelope and still hasn't reached its target but she's so contemporary especially in the airtoair and airtoland capabilities," explained Thomas.
While he felt that there was some way to go and more time needed to fine tune some aspects, Thomas said that there were no major difficulties during the flight trails under extreme conditions.
"Moreover, it's one of the most frugal aircraft in fuel efficiency," he added. During the Initial Operational Clearance (IOC), the LCA performed at 350 kmph, 1.6 Mach at a Gforce limit of 6.8.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...1_french-pilots-india-s-lca-iaf#ixzz1Dr7jLbrm
One of the French pilots remarked: "I've been seeing the LCA fly for the past two days. It looks a very good aircraft to me. It has good flight abilities and I get the feeling it's doing well." One other pilot had just finished a good deal of research on the LCA, having gone to the aircraft and examined it closely.
http://www.business-standard.com/ar...ow-tejas-finally-took-off-111012200039_1.html
 
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anybody have any recent update on this bird ?

LSP 8 first fly video is not available anywhere on net
 

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LCA Flight test update

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LCA-Tejas has completed 2161 Test Flights Successfully. (14-May-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-364,LSP1-74,LSP2-267,PV5-36,LSP3-130,LSP4-74,LSP5-172,LSP7-34,NP1-4,LSP8-4)

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LCA-Tejas has completed 2174 Test Flights Successfully. (25-May-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-364,LSP1-74,LSP2-273,PV5-36,LSP3-132,LSP4-76,LSP5-172,LSP7-37,NP1-4,LSP8-4)
 

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Final Operational Clearance For LCA Next Year : Defence Minister



The Defence Minister Shri AK Antony today expressed optimism that the country's indigenously developed fighter aircraft- LCA TEJAS- will get Final Operational Clearance of the Indian Air Force by the end of next year.
Shri Antony said countries that depend on imported arsenals cannot become great nation. Shri Antony said we continue to be the largest importer of Defence equipment. The share of indigenous content in Defence procurement is low. "Our experience has been that foreign vendors are reluctant to part with critical technologies. There are delays in the supply of essential spares. There are exorbitant price increases. The Services too realize that we cannot be eternally dependent on foreign equipment and platforms", he said.
Source : Chindits: Final Operational Clearance For LCA Next Year : Defence Minister

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LCA Flight test update

LCA-Tejas has completed 2178 Test Flights Successfully. (28-May-2013).

(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-365,LSP1-74,LSP2-273,PV5-36,LSP3-132,LSP4-79,LSP5-172,LSP7-37,NP1-4,LSP8-4)


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LCA-Tejas has completed 2174 Test Flights Successfully. (25-May-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-364,LSP1-74,LSP2-273,PV5-36,LSP3-132,LSP4-76,LSP5-172,LSP7-37,NP1-4,LSP8-4)
 

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,Lca tejas



Miss February 6th gen concept by Boeing which too has the same cranked delta wing,
and high wing upper fuselage blending as that of tejas mk-1,
with high set wings as that of Tejas MK-1.




Notice even the curvature of the upper wing looks similar to that of LCA Tejas. I don't mean to say the Boeing model is a copy of Tejas wing form. But just to under line all the future wing models look likes that of tejas.Some food for thought for the guys who criticize the the low wing loading cranked delta wing RSS fly by wire config of Tejas


All wing modern wing forms have some kind of Cranked or compound delta config only. Look at F-22, SUKHOI-PAKFA, and even the J-31. So ithe huge low wing loading cranked delta wing form of tejas will remain modern for a long long time to come. And if it is any tejas mk-3 with twin engine config is needed .

Mastering of this wing form in Tejas mk-1 will considerably reduce the development time for the stealth compliant twin engined tejas Mk-3 if initiated when the need arises.
 
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LCA Flight test update

LCA-Tejas has completed 2178 Test Flights Successfully. (28-May-2013).

(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-365,LSP1-74,LSP2-273,PV5-36,LSP3-132,LSP4-79,LSP5-172,LSP7-37,NP1-4,LSP8-4)

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LCA-Tejas has completed 2174 Test Flights Successfully. (25-May-2013).
(TD1-233,TD2-305,PV1-242,PV2-222,PV3-364,LSP1-74,LSP2-273,PV5-36,LSP3-132,LSP4-76,LSP5-172,LSP7-37,NP1-4,LSP8-4)
Any idea what's the appox number of test flights comparable fighters have had before they were inducted into a force?
 

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Sanctions led to delay in LCA project: DRDO chief

NEW DELHI: Facing flak for time slippages in Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas programme, DRDO chief V K Saraswat today attributed the delay to "setbacks" caused by international sanctions and inadequate development of aerospace industry in the country.

Saraswat, who retired today, contended that the DRDO had to start from the "scratch" to indigenously develop the fighter aircraft as the manufacturing base in the country was non-existent. He said these issues have now been addressed to a large extent and other versions of the combat aircraft can be developed in a short time.

"We had to go through the rigours of development from the scratch where we had to develop the whole range of products. This is not a problem in foreign countries where everything is available whereas we had to develop everything," he told PTI in an interview here.

The DRDO chief said this when asked to explain the delay in the LCA programme which has not fructified even nearly three decades after it was initiated. His comments came two days after Defence Minister A K Antony criticised the "time slippages" in the project.

Saraswat noted that the project to develop a Light Combat Aircraft was initiated in early 1980s but soon after Missile Transfer Control Regime (MTCR) came into effect in 1988.

"All suppliers cancelled their agreements and European firms also stopped cooperation. When such a situation occurred, we had to do everything ourselves. This was a major setback," said Saraswat, who also held the post of Scientific Advisor to the Defence Minister. This situation continued from 1980 till 2000 when the first aircraft was rolled out, he said. "Time was taken to overcome the blocks created by MTCR. This is the reason for the longer time taken," he said.

The DRDO chief said LCA was the first programme wherein a fighter plane had to be completely designed and developed indigenously in the country, a departure from the practice of manufacturing fighters of other countries under licence. "We did not have any industrial base for avionics, for material. When we wanted to do LCA, there was a lacuna in the whole system," Saraswat said.

He said this was because indigenous development of a fighter aircraft was never under consideration till 1980 and as a result of which the manufacturing base could not be created unlike other countries.

Saraswat noted the policy pursued till then was to buy fighters off the shelf or manufacture them under licence from countries like USSR. After the collapse of USSR, India faced tremendous problems in getting spare parts.

Talking about the LCA project, he said, "We have built all the systems for the LCA today but that resulted in extra money and extra time. That is not the inefficiency of the scientists or the management failure. It is basically bridging the technology gap and learning how large systems are done."

He said the DRDO and the HAL have addressed a number of problems found in the aircraft during its Initial Operational Clearance-I at Bangalore in 2001 and expressed hope that the aircraft would get its IOC-II by the end of this year.

The LCA is expected to cost around Rs 200 crore per piece, which will still be much less than a foreign fighter of the same class, Saraswat said.

He said a big push was given under his tenure for the large scale production of the aircraft at the HAL facilities in Bangalore.

Sanctions led to delay in LCA project: DRDO chief - The Economic Times
 
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