ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[ersakthivel]

if i am not wrong we are living in 2012 not 2008

will any one pls tell me how many lca we are using now days in our force

it is a standard practice to write the date of the youtube film while posting in thread.

 

[sasi]

 

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[p2prada]

The induction information is not up to date. It was supposed to be an actual induction, but that was with 2 serial production aircraft in June 2011.

IAF refused to induct the aircraft.

Media is sensationalizing as usual, without IOC there can be no inductions. As of today there are no SP-1 and SP-2 aircraft flying. These are supposed to be the first IAF fighters. The rest that the IAF is flying are prototypes.

 

[ersakthivel]

The induction information is not up to date. It was supposed to be an actual induction, but that was with 2 serial production aircraft in June 2011.

IAF refused to induct the aircraft.

Media is sensationalizing as usual, without IOC there can be no inductions. As of today there are no SP-1 and SP-2 aircraft flying. These are supposed to be the first IAF fighters. The rest that the IAF is flying are prototypes.

Media is not sensationalizing, only you are day dreaming.

IAF has already asked ada and HAL to speed things up and confirmed they need 6 squadrons of tejas by 2012.Besides this Navy will need abut 3 squadrons atleast .

Most of the design concepts done for AMCA with older IAF ASrs will be used for TEJAS mk-3 as per V.K.Saraswath's statement.

So after 2022 tejas mk-3 will be ready as there are only incremental work is needed to be done on the mk-2 airframe.
Once development for mk-2 is complete mk-3 development will proceed once IAf issues ASR .

So as a fighter line tejas 's future is assured in IAf despite whatever you post here.
If you have any doubts click the below mentioned link.

IAF looking to Induct all Six Squadrons of Tejas by 2022 | idrw.org

You are as usual posting cock and bull stories about the only 4.5th gen aircraft with least RCS (eminently suited for air domination roles with long range ASTRA mk-1 and mk-2 BVRs) IAF is going to have for a decade besides RAFALE.

IOC , FOC and all other OCs are now mere formalities as IAF is deeply entwined with the development of aircraft, so that they know it insides out.Despite the tejas being grounded for 7 months due to the fuel leak issues and 3 months for pilot helmets issues IAf has no dobts about the capability of the aircraft

as it has already crossed mach 1.6 at 21000 (7 km)feet itself , so with higher power serial production engine from GE(90+ kn in SPs opposed to 84 kn in LSPs) reaching mach 1.8 at 15 km altitude. All your bluffs about air intake in tejas mk-2 thread are also no logic as even for a way higher thrust engine in mk-2 air intake enlargement is minimum only.

 

[nimo_cn]

By the time LCA is inducted, it will be obsolete, India need to implement the Rafale deal as soon as possible, discard LCA and move direcctly to FGFA.

 

[jalsa]

By the time LCA is inducted, it will be obsolete, India need to implement the Rafale deal as soon as possible, discard LCA and move direcctly to FGFA.

Certain number of LCA will be bought to support the industry.

 

[manishhot]

lca is useless iaf wont induct lca i think india should buy gripen ng

 

[Abhi9]

Its a pity people dont understand the pitfalls of research and development. Only in india, why? because mostly 90 percent of people dont even understand what R&D is all about and given the way it works in india i can surely understand how it is. I have friends in NPL( national physical labratory) who tell me how frustrating it is do research given all the bull shit of paperwork, seniors impeding your research, 1,5 years of wait to get a instrument.

still they carry on and in the effort to do good for the country. LCA is a immense technology base, i mean immense . Its our effort to bridge gap of 30 years of tech gap in one go. Nothing comes easy,

 

[tony4562]

Its a pity people dont understand the pitfalls of research and development. Only in india, why? because mostly 90 percent of people dont even understand what R&D is all about and given the way it works in india i can surely understand how it is. I have friends in NPL( national physical labratory) who tell me how frustrating it is do research given all the bull shit of paperwork, seniors impeding your research, 1,5 years of wait to get a instrument.

still they carry on and in the effort to do good for the country. LCA is a immense technology base, i mean immense . Its our effort to bridge gap of 30 years of tech gap in one go. Nothing comes easy,

LCA as a weapon is a lost cause, IAF saw through this long ago. But many here are still hopeful that even as technology demonstrator it will be a valuabla experience, which is true, but only to a limited extent. LCA is ca 50% imported by value, which practically includes all the important components. The other 50% or the so-called indigenous part is mainly added value in putting these foreign parts together. It's experience, OK, you still have not learnt the fundamental things. LCA is also a very dated design aerodynamically, its resemblance to Mirage2000, a fighter highly regarded by IAF, is unmistaken. How selfsufficient India becomes in aerodynamical design after the LCA exercise, remains questionable. Thirdly much of a aviation project goes about manufacuring. And in this area India is not even going to get a passing grade.

 

[Patriot]

LCA as a weapon is a lost cause, IAF saw through this long ago. But many here are still hopeful that even as technology demonstrator it will be a valuabla experience, which is true, but only to a limited extent. LCA is ca 50% imported by value, which practically includes all the important components. The other 50% or the so-called indigenous part is mainly added value in putting these foreign parts together. It's experience, OK, you still have not learnt the fundamental things. LCA is also a very dated design aerodynamically, its resemblance to Mirage2000, a fighter highly regarded by IAF, is unmistaken. How selfsufficient India becomes in aerodynamical design after the LCA exercise, remains questionable. Thirdly much of a aviation project goes about manufacuring. And in this area India is not even going to get a passing grade.

Any way , it is a far far better experience than copy paste type of reverse engineering.

 

[navkapu]

Why LCA during build phase F16 etc etc were also lost cause whats important is that it can be updated when we want .....

LCA as a weapon is a lost cause, IAF saw through this long ago. But many here are still hopeful that even as technology demonstrator it will be a valuabla experience, which is true, but only to a limited extent. LCA is ca 50% imported by value, which practically includes all the important components. The other 50% or the so-called indigenous part is mainly added value in putting these foreign parts together. It's experience, OK, you still have not learnt the fundamental things. LCA is also a very dated design aerodynamically, its resemblance to Mirage2000, a fighter highly regarded by IAF, is unmistaken. How selfsufficient India becomes in aerodynamical design after the LCA exercise, remains questionable. Thirdly much of a aviation project goes about manufacuring. And in this area India is not even going to get a passing grade.

 

[sasi]

LCA

In night

 

[sasi]

I believe if there is no problem,Dec-Jan is the roll out time for LSP-8.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

India could test Kaveri engine on Tejas by end-2013

India's Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) aims to integrate the Kaveri powerplant with the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) Tejas fighter within the next nine months.A test aircraft operated by India's Aeronautical Development Agency will be used for the integration, says an industry source familiar with the programme.

India could test Kaveri engine on Tejas by end-2013

 

[Abhi9]

There is nothing more dangerous than a smart-dumb person who has visionary ideas about a country's economic, technological and military growth.

Off topic but ..............

 

[ersakthivel]

LCA as a weapon is a lost cause, IAF saw through this long ago. But many here are still hopeful that even as technology demonstrator it will be a valuabla experience, which is true, but only to a limited extent. LCA is ca 50% imported by value, which practically includes all the important components. The other 50% or the so-called indigenous part is mainly added value in putting these foreign parts together. It's experience, OK, you still have not learnt the fundamental things. LCA is also a very dated design aerodynamically, its resemblance to Mirage2000, a fighter highly regarded by IAF, is unmistaken. How selfsufficient India becomes in aerodynamical design after the LCA exercise, remains questionable. Thirdly much of a aviation project goes about manufacuring. And in this area India is not even going to get a passing grade.

it is the same IAF chief who asks ada and HAl to speed up LCA production to reach a figure of 100 plus within next 10 years.
And navy too wants a couple of squadrons.So what did IAF see through? (that is so top secret that you alone seem to know)

The mirage has low set wings and a plain delta.The LCA has high set wings with compound delta.Where is the similarity?
And both have different wing loadings.

After more than 250 pages of discussion you please dont jump in the middle with a comment like this.Just read all the info and point out what was so obsolete about LCA in a meaningful manner.it is a small aircraft and we have already discussed it to the smallest possible detail here.

Thanks to the untiring effort of few guys like you here I have been nominated for the best fanboy of the year award.So why are you provoking me again.Just wait till the FOC to know how obsolete or how useful it is.

 

[ersakthivel]

By the time LCA is inducted, it will be obsolete, India need to implement the Rafale deal as soon as possible, discard LCA and move direcctly to FGFA.

The lca is as state of art as the picture in your profile.And no one likes to discard it as it is so beautiful.

 

[ersakthivel]

lca is useless iaf wont induct lca i think india should buy gripen ng

The best advice i have seen so far.You should be made the strategic advisor of IAF.