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Which role suits LCA 'Tejas' more than others from following options?

  • Interceptor-Defend Skies from Intruders.

    Votes: 342 51.3%
  • Airsuperiority-Complete control of the skies.

    Votes: 17 2.5%
  • Strike-Attack deep into enemy zone.

    Votes: 24 3.6%
  • Multirole-Perform multiple roles.

    Votes: 284 42.6%

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LCA Tejas LSP-7 will fly in August: ADA chief

LCA Tejas LSP-7 will fly in August: ADA chief

The 7th Limited Series Production (LSP-7) platform of India's Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas will now take to the skies in August 2011. Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) head Mr P.S. Subramanyam confirmed to Tarmak007 in Bangalore on June 14 that the programme is well on track, despite the delays.

"Productionisation is a gradual process. The LSP-7 and LSP-8 aircraft will be very close to the final version, not just in terms of the design, but also in terms of how they are manufactured. As things stand now, the LSP-7 will fly in August and the LSP-8 in November," the ADA chief said. Tejas LSP-5 first flew on November 19 2010. (LSP-6 will be an experimental vehicle specifically for high Angle of Attack. LSP-7 will be the 12th aircraft joining the Tejas flight-line, spanning over 10 years.)

ADA-HAL had earlier said that the Indian Air Force (IAF) would have the LSP-7 and LSP-8 for user evaluation trials by March 2011. In the meantime, the IAF has already begun the process of squadron formation.

Justifying the reasons for the slight delay for the last two LSPs to join the flight-line, Mr Subramanyam said: "The first phase was to show that the product was good and we have demonstrated this. Everything is performing well. Now, the focus is on creating world-class facilities for productionisation, induction, and product support. So far, we have been on a 'suit-on-assembly mode', fit for prototypes as the designers would often alter sub-components to maximize the performance of the aircraft. Now that the design parameters have been proven, the programme is moving on to a type of production mode that will optimize time and cost savings."

Assuring that the availability and serviceability of Tejas would be 'world-class,' the ADA chief said that it is not enough just to create a great product alone. "The facilities for maintenance and operations –- be it the ground-handling equipment, the tools, the testers, the documentation –- all should be the best in the world. The reason why Embraer [the Brazilian aircraft manufacturer] has a great reputation is because the availability of its fleet is so high — about 80-90%. Similarly, the availability and serviceability of the LCA should be world-class and we are heading in the same direction," he said.

Mr Subramanyam said that a team of technicians and ground-support personnel would assist the IAF in establishing the Tejas Squadron at the Sulur Air Base (near Coimbatore in Tamil Nadu). "For proper product support, personnel have to be identified and trained. Labs and maintenance facilities have to be set up. During the transition phase, we will be involved with all of this," he said.

The Tejas platforms (all combined) have logged over 1,650 flights so far, clocking close to 1,000 hours. "After we cross the 1,000-hour mark, we will have a small celebration," the ADA boss said, smiling and stroking his trademark well-trimmed beard.

Tarmak007 -- A bold blog on Indian defence: Tracking the Tejas: LSP-7 will fly in August: ADA chief

i couldn't find any other sources confirming this news. we will have to wait and see... we have no idea what are improvement or new features that we can see on LCA TEJAS LSP-7. Hold tight!
 

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Tejas LSP-7 & 8 in air by end of this year : ADA

Source1 : Tejas LSP-7 & 8 in air by end of this year : ADA | idrw.org
(IDRW NEWS NETWORK)

ADA Chief recently told a defence blog that , last of the two Limited serial prodcution Tejas aircraft LSP-7 and LSP-8 , will make their first flights by end of this year , LSP-7 will take its first flight by August and LSP-8 by end of this year .

LSP-6 will be exclusively be used for increasing Angle of Attack (AOA) and used for other tests , which will also include better (Experimental )RAM coating to further reduce its radar signature . while first Naval Prototype (NP-1) will have its first flight in mid of July , just over a year after it was Rolled out last year in a ceremony which was attended by Defence minister A.K.Anthony and Naval and air force chief .

Our sources have also informed that first batch of 20 ordered Tejas MK-1 , will be also ready soon and first flight of Standard production aircraft (SP-1 and SP-2) will be ready by March 2012 and after their first flight will be handed over to Air force , he further informed that LSP-7 and LSP-8 after their initial test flights by the Manufacture (HAL Pilots ) , will be handed over to Indian air force , which will be flown by ASTE Pilots ,before been handed over to No 45 Squadron (Flying Daggers) ,which will be initially be based in Bangalore to sort out any teething problems which might surface in its Regular operations .
 
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Tarmak007 -- A bold blog on Indian defence: IAF to induct more pilots: Naik

On LCA: Naik said the LCA programme is shaping up well in the run up to the Final Operational Clearance. "We are happy that now we are finally progressing and that there could be light at the end of the tunnel. The LCA will enter into squadron service by the end of the year and then will become operational in a couple of years. Similarly, we will have six or seven operational squadrons of the LCA Mark-II,"
 

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‘Our focus is to transform into a capability-based force rather than being adversary-centric’ - SP's Aviation

SP's: Could you give the latest update on the indigenous light combat aircraft (LCA) Tejas development/acquisition programme? Does the IAF feel satisfied with the performance of the initial operational clearance (IOC)/ full operational capability (FOC) of Tejas Mk I? What are the shortcomings in operational capabilities that the IAF has had to contend with and how are these proposed to be overcome in the Mk II version?

CAS: As of now, we have seven LCA aircraft and these are being put through their final paces, before induction into the IAF this year. We are expecting two more limited series production aircraft to join the fleet by the third quarter this year. The LCA, in its present form, is a fourth generation aircraft and we are working with HAL to enhance its capabilities. I am hopeful that the aircraft, in its final operational clearance configuration, will be a much more potent platform, to be a 'fourth generation plus'. We have had certain problems with the thrust-to-weight ratio and have contracted for a higher thrust engine for the LCA Mark II to obviate this problem. Some design improvements have also been planned to address the shortfalls in performance as compared to LCA Mark I aircraft.
 

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LCA-Tejas development, production and induction

What's going on with LCA Tejas? Since the IOC in January DFI Live box How many are being made per year? When will ADA supply IAF with the initial order of 124 LCA mk-1? What's going on with the development of Mk-2?

I read somewhere on Pak defense forum that the China-Pak venture is producing 12-15 JF-17s a year - is ADA doing better than that? Also, JF-17 mk-2 will be ready by 2017 - what about LCA mk-2 development?
 

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Total orders for LCA Mk-I is only 20 and another 20 for Mk-II, IAF will place more orders for Mk-II but not for MK-I. F414 will come around only by 2014 so the real work will start after that. LSP-7,8 will fly before this year end. No LCA has been inducted into IAF so far.
 

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order for Mk1 is 20+20. ACM Naik mentioned in a recent interview to tarmak007 (actually the guy who is interning at his blog) that they are looking to induct 6-7 squadrons of Mk2, that's 120-140 aircraft.
 

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That is interesting. I had read somewhere that HAL needs to make >200 LCA Mk2 to break even, and that did not include the R&D for Mk2! So it will be another write off for MoD?
 

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Wonderful picture of an LCA getting assembled. Notice the skeleton and inner workings of the aircraft.


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The fly-by-wire and other Avionics?

 

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order for Mk1 is 20+20. ACM Naik mentioned in a recent interview to tarmak007 (actually the guy who is interning at his blog) that they are looking to induct 6-7 squadrons of Mk2, that's 120-140 aircraft.
"We plan to use the F404 engines to power the first 20 aircraft the IAF has ordered and the enhanced GE-414 engines for the second order of 20 aircraft, which will be the Mark-2 version, while Kaveri will be used for the trainer and naval variants and the air force variant when they are upgraded a decade later," Subramanyam pointed out.

Tejas to soar high at AeroIndia 2011 - Economic Times
 

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some more LCA bashing - what is it with people - they go after a topic like Bulls at a red flag without reading what it is all about.
F404 is a low powered engine? It is only low-powered because it does not match the IAF specs. It is still used by Gripen A/B, as also by the F-18 Hornet.
Anyway, I would love to know more about actual LCA production and timeline.
 

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What is the production rate of HAL for LCA Mk-1? What is the production rate and time horizon for LCA Mk-2? Can't HAL specify ANYTHING?
 
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